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Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?

 
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Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
Yesterday, I rode to a meeting in another town in my student's car. He was driving. I was astonished to see that the first thing he did in the car was to punch the address of the destination in the navigator.

It was a simple journey. Our destination was another town 200 km away: one highway, one exit and a little bit of driving in the town itself.

I asked him why he bothered with the navigator. He told me that he never drives anywhere without using it. He said that having to think of the route distracts his driving and makes him uncomfortable.

I also saw that the navigator plotted a really boneheaded final leg of the journey, but he said he'd rather trust it than me, because it had realtime information about traffic, roadworks and so on.

And then people wonder why so many people end up driving one-way streets the wrong way, or end up in ponds and lakes...

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Re: Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
Only when I don’t know how to get there.
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I only have two major cities memorized, I love my GPS
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I'm not a young driver...well,or am I?


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Only when I don’t know how to get there.
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or when you do and the road destroyers are performing destruction in yellow vests, so you need to reroute.

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Most have lost direction.
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Re: Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
I only have two major cities memorized, I love my GPS
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I sort of understand using GPS in cities, but for our intercity travel it's kind of ridiculous. Here's the map of our highway system (we were going to Jyväskylä):

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

In general, if you've got the major towns and their approximate locations in the country memorized, it's impossible to get lost no matter where you start. Stay on the highway, read the signs, and you'll get there.
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Yesterday, I rode to a meeting in another town in my student's car. He was driving. I was astonished to see that the first thing he did in the car was to punch the address of the destination in the navigator.

It was a simple journey. Our destination was another town 200 km away: one highway, one exit and a little bit of driving in the town itself.

I asked him why he bothered with the navigator. He told me that he never drives anywhere without using it. He said that having to think of the route distracts his driving and makes him uncomfortable.

I also saw that the navigator plotted a really boneheaded final leg of the journey, but he said he'd rather trust it than me, because it had realtime information about traffic, roadworks and so on.

And then people wonder why so many people end up driving one-way streets the wrong way, or end up in ponds and lakes...
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they may as bloody well because they can't fucking drive.
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Re: Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
I do the same. Why bother thinking about it, when you can have a computer calculate the optimal route and talk you through to the destination?

I guess OP frowns upon calculators, too.

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I guess OP frowns upon calculators, too.
 Quoting: Magna Cacca

I do, actually.

You should give your brain some exercise and do everyday maths without a calculator. You hardly ever need a precise result anyway. A conservative estimate will do in most cases.

Edit:

I'll expand. $13,979.50 + $8,746.20 = ?. Can I afford it?

Ignore the decimals and bracket the sum by rounding up and down to numbers you can easily calculate in your head.

Lower bracket: $13000+$8000 = $18000+$3000 = $21000.
Upper bracket: $14000+$9000 = $19000+$4000 = $23000.

From the original figures you can see that the precise result will be closer to the upper bound (less rounding), so you know you end up with a sum closer to $23000 than $21000.

Some of my students at Masters and PhD levels can't do this. They've never been told it's OK. They keep reaching for their phone to get a precise result. Things like this lead to digital dementia.

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Re: Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
Taking in the scenery, feeling the sun's light and shadow creating direction magnetically guiding feels great. I am the only one I know who can get around a new place without a map. Just sort of feel-my-way-around a place.

There are older people who suffer disorientation and key in everything, too.
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This Littlepixie has a 5 minute video found on youtube that explains it to a T.



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I only have two major cities memorized, I love my GPS
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I sort of understand using GPS in cities, but for our intercity travel it's kind of ridiculous. Here's the map of our highway system (we were going to Jyväskylä):

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

In general, if you've got the major towns and their approximate locations in the country memorized, it's impossible to get lost no matter where you start. Stay on the highway, read the signs, and you'll get there.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


GPS tells me what time I will arrive given the current traffic and road destruction projects...and the shortest and/or the fastest route.
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Re: Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
I only have two major cities memorized, I love my GPS
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I sort of understand using GPS in cities, but for our intercity travel it's kind of ridiculous. Here's the map of our highway system (we were going to Jyväskylä):

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

In general, if you've got the major towns and their approximate locations in the country memorized, it's impossible to get lost no matter where you start. Stay on the highway, read the signs, and you'll get there.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


GPS tells me what time I will arrive given the current traffic and road destruction projects...and the shortest and/or the fastest route.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Have you used Waze?
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I only have two major cities memorized, I love my GPS
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I sort of understand using GPS in cities, but for our intercity travel it's kind of ridiculous. Here's the map of our highway system (we were going to Jyväskylä):

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

In general, if you've got the major towns and their approximate locations in the country memorized, it's impossible to get lost no matter where you start. Stay on the highway, read the signs, and you'll get there.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


GPS tells me what time I will arrive given the current traffic and road destruction projects...and the shortest and/or the fastest route.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Have you used Waze?
 Quoting: Crash


No, just google maps.

I really don't travel much.
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Dont know about the US but in britain you have to be able to follow a satnav to pass your test, how stupid is that
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We recently had a local road (notorious for collisions) closed and re-routed. The old portion was sodded and marked with bright orange barrels. A new 4-way intersection was constructed about a half a mile away.

Just yesterday I was behind a car who veered off the highway as if they were going to use the old road. Guy came within inches of taking out one of the orange drums. As I passed I see him head down, looking at his cell phone in bewilderment.
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GPS is a major tool for getting to work in different locations everyday

It automatically reroutes if you miss a turn - or choose to avoid traffic or construction

I use it because it TIMES the route - and that tells me how FAST I need to go!

I leave between 4-5am and routes can have dog or Deer or other dangers I have to gondolier for (AMISH buggies- tractors and farm equipment)

If I have to stop for construction - I know I can make up for that 2 min delay on the straightaways more or less- timing is everything in one of the businesses I do - must arrive at goal time.

I also need to here it say "the destination is on the left" when I am searching for addresses -

I am hire to take pics of houses and businesses that have insurance claims or are in default.

Going slow in some neighborhoods get too much attention and I'm not permitted to talk about why I need pics and which property it is or if I'm lost.

I have to pull up confidently across the street and take my pics fast. Some areas I get out of the vehicle - some I don't
Some I'm paid to go inside the house for interiors. Don't need nosy neighbors staring or askin questions.

I use GPS to know exactly which driveway I am pulling into if it's vacant.

That's just two different jobs where GPS is critical and the address is different everybday !
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Re: Have young drivers have become GPS-dependent?
Yesterday, I rode to a meeting in another town in my student's car. He was driving. I was astonished to see that the first thing he did in the car was to punch the address of the destination in the navigator.

It was a simple journey. Our destination was another town 200 km away: one highway, one exit and a little bit of driving in the town itself.

I asked him why he bothered with the navigator. He told me that he never drives anywhere without using it. He said that having to think of the route distracts his driving and makes him uncomfortable.

I also saw that the navigator plotted a really boneheaded final leg of the journey, but he said he'd rather trust it than me, because it had realtime information about traffic, roadworks and so on.

And then people wonder why so many people end up driving one-way streets the wrong way, or end up in ponds and lakes...
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Nope, do not use it and I have an excellent sense of direction. I just use the signs. I also memorize the route beforehand and take a map along just in case.

Plus there is this:
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Most have lost direction.
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I still have a bunch of paper maps from 1994
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I do the same. Why bother thinking about it, when you can have a computer calculate the optimal route and talk you through to the destination?

I guess OP frowns upon calculators, too.
 Quoting: Magna Cacca


Its called the brain getting passive, lazy

Look up the study on mice colony when they got passive, lazy and overcrowded. They lost the spark to live, became infertile and died out
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Every time I've ever tried a GPS just for kicks, it tried to put me on streets that I would never have driven, knowing the area. Either their route was longer, more dangerous, or in one case it was an alley filled with huge potholes.

People have ended up dead from following GPS the wrong way onto a freeway...


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If the on and off ramps are within 100 feet of each other, NO GPS SYSTEM could give accurate directions.

I'll stick with printed directions and my own brain as long as it still works.
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Yesterday, I rode to a meeting in another town in my student's car. He was driving. I was astonished to see that the first thing he did in the car was to punch the address of the destination in the navigator.

It was a simple journey. Our destination was another town 200 km away: one highway, one exit and a little bit of driving in the town itself.

I asked him why he bothered with the navigator. He told me that he never drives anywhere without using it. He said that having to think of the route distracts his driving and makes him uncomfortable.

I also saw that the navigator plotted a really boneheaded final leg of the journey, but he said he'd rather trust it than me, because it had realtime information about traffic, roadworks and so on.

And then people wonder why so many people end up driving one-way streets the wrong way, or end up in ponds and lakes...
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


I have been in cars with people who nearly had an accident while paying attention to GPS.
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I'm not a young driver...well,or am I?


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Most people would be lost without GPS - literally and figuratively.
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Not just the young, even old bastards like me?

I used to scoff at people using reversing sensors.....have to admit I do to now.

We are all being dumbed down to except driverless cars...





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