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Christ TRANSCENDED into Heaven. He did not ascend to it as is commonly misunderstood.

 
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Christ TRANSCENDED into Heaven. He did not ascend to it as is commonly misunderstood.
In the physical world we ascend to spiritual heights in our mind; this is called transcendence. We do not or cannot transport or ascend to the spiritual plane in mortal bodies. That is impossible. And this rule applied to Christ when he lived as a mortal man. He transcended his physical limits in order to make contact with the Heavenly Father. Had he ascended into Heaven, in his physical persons or form, then it would have been a physical experience; still, we know Heaven is a spiritual, not physical experience.


The Bible uses the term ascend to describe Christ mounting the spiritual height. However, it is used in a metaphoric sense. True or literal ascension occurs post-mortem, when divested of the biological vesture and donned an immaterial corpus. And that is when the fun truly begins!

The below is an example of transcendence.

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

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What do you think the purpose of hair is op? What spiritual attributes and purpose does it have? Why did Christ have long hair like a hippie?afro
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Do you have many friends in real life op? Or are you an outcast because of your spiritual knowledge and path?
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What do you think the purpose of hair is op? What spiritual attributes and purpose does it have? Why did Christ have long hair like a hippie?afro
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I think hair acts as antennas to receive and transmit psychic information.
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Do you have many friends in real life op? Or are you an outcast because of your spiritual knowledge and path?
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nearly an outcast if I did not have my parents and siblings. I do not have any friends with the exception of four who are as ungrounded and unstable as me! lmao
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Do you have many friends in real life op? Or are you an outcast because of your spiritual knowledge and path?
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nearly an outcast if I did not have my parents and siblings. I do not have any friends with the exception of four who are as ungrounded and unstable as me! lmao
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Yep, it seems the more spiritual you are the more people are repelled by you in this world. I'm the same way as you irl. That is why I respect your path/journeyyoda
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Do you have many friends in real life op? Or are you an outcast because of your spiritual knowledge and path?
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nearly an outcast if I did not have my parents and siblings. I do not have any friends with the exception of four who are as ungrounded and unstable as me! lmao
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Yep, it seems the more spiritual you are the more people are repelled by you in this world. I'm the same way as you irl. That is why I respect your path/journeyyoda
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and i respect yours as well! may the force be with us!!!!

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Do you think Christ and Lucifer are one of the same? Have the same message/meaning/translation?
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Do you think Satan was the good guy because he tried to give us knowledge for better or worse?
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Do you think Christ and Lucifer are one of the same? Have the same message/meaning/translation?
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I look at it like a pyramid which represents Christ and Lucifer. At the apex the two are one. So if we are looking at the apex of the pyramid, Lucifer and Christ are the same being. Beneath the apex are two stones. Those two are Lucifer and Christ, distinct personalities, in the first instance on the pyramid. As we travel down we get a diffusion of those divine personalities into other divine intelligence until we reach the bottom which is the entire host of Heaven.

The pyramid is one way of explain the relationship between the two. There are other ways however.
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Do you think Satan was the good guy because he tried to give us knowledge for better or worse?
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One man's god is another man's satan. It depends on frame of reference.
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Do you think Christ and Lucifer are one of the same? Have the same message/meaning/translation?
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I look at it like a pyramid which represents Christ and Lucifer. At the apex the two are one. So if we are looking at the apex of the pyramid, Lucifer and Christ are the same being. Beneath the apex are two stones. Those two are Lucifer and Christ, distinct personalities, in the first instance on the pyramid. As we travel down we get a diffusion of those divine personalities into other divine intelligence until we reach the bottom which is the entire host of Heaven.

The pyramid is one way of explain the relationship between the two. There are other ways however.
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Yep, they're just two sides of the same coin. Is Christ supposed to be from the Orion constellation? Is he a Nordic/anunaki??
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Do you think Christ and Lucifer are one of the same? Have the same message/meaning/translation?
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I look at it like a pyramid which represents Christ and Lucifer. At the apex the two are one. So if we are looking at the apex of the pyramid, Lucifer and Christ are the same being. Beneath the apex are two stones. Those two are Lucifer and Christ, distinct personalities, in the first instance on the pyramid. As we travel down we get a diffusion of those divine personalities into other divine intelligence until we reach the bottom which is the entire host of Heaven.

The pyramid is one way of explain the relationship between the two. There are other ways however.
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Yep, they're just two sides of the same coin. Is Christ supposed to be from the Orion constellation? Is he a Nordic/anunaki??
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I think the present age Christ consciousness is Nordic in nature because of the fact whites have conquered the entire globe in our generation (but that is changing) .

I have not done in depth study on the anunaki except the Zacharias Sitchen earth Chronicles series. I think anunaki ties into all this.

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I look at it like a pyramid which represents Christ and Lucifer. At the apex the two are one. So if we are looking at the apex of the pyramid, Lucifer and Christ are the same being. Beneath the apex are two stones. Those two are Lucifer and Christ, distinct personalities, in the first instance on the pyramid. As we travel down we get a diffusion of those divine personalities into other divine intelligence until we reach the bottom which is the entire host of Heaven.

The pyramid is one way of explain the relationship between the two. There are other ways however.
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Yep, they're just two sides of the same coin. Is Christ supposed to be from the Orion constellation? Is he a Nordic/anunaki??
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I think the present age Christ consciousness is Nordic in nature because of the fact whites have conquered the entire globe in our generation (but that is changing) .

I have not done in depth study on the anunaki except the Zacharias Sitchen earth Chronicles series. I think anunaki ties into all this.
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True, they represent the Nordics. The greys and reptilians are whole other matter though lol I think the non white races are more reptilian in naturealien03
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I know based on personal revelation Blacks are connected to the reptilian entities consciousness wise.

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I look at it like a pyramid which represents Christ and Lucifer. At the apex the two are one. So if we are looking at the apex of the pyramid, Lucifer and Christ are the same being. Beneath the apex are two stones. Those two are Lucifer and Christ, distinct personalities, in the first instance on the pyramid. As we travel down we get a diffusion of those divine personalities into other divine intelligence until we reach the bottom which is the entire host of Heaven.

The pyramid is one way of explain the relationship between the two. There are other ways however.
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Yep, they're just two sides of the same coin. Is Christ supposed to be from the Orion constellation? Is he a Nordic/anunaki??
 Quoting: fanboy


I think the present age Christ consciousness is Nordic in nature because of the fact whites have conquered the entire globe in our generation (but that is changing) .

I have not done in depth study on the anunaki except the Zacharias Sitchen earth Chronicles series. I think anunaki ties into all this.
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


True, they represent the Nordics. The greys and reptilians are whole other matter though lol I think the non white races are more reptilian in naturealien03
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I know based on personal revelation Blacks are connected to the reptilian entities consciousness wise.

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Yep, they're just two sides of the same coin. Is Christ supposed to be from the Orion constellation? Is he a Nordic/anunaki??
 Quoting: fanboy


I think the present age Christ consciousness is Nordic in nature because of the fact whites have conquered the entire globe in our generation (but that is changing) .

I have not done in depth study on the anunaki except the Zacharias Sitchen earth Chronicles series. I think anunaki ties into all this.
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True, they represent the Nordics. The greys and reptilians are whole other matter though lol I think the non white races are more reptilian in naturealien03
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How did you figure that out? I always thought so too. That's why blacks are different from every other human race on earthabduct
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I know based on personal revelation Blacks are connected to the reptilian entities consciousness wise.

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I think the present age Christ consciousness is Nordic in nature because of the fact whites have conquered the entire globe in our generation (but that is changing) .

I have not done in depth study on the anunaki except the Zacharias Sitchen earth Chronicles series. I think anunaki ties into all this.
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True, they represent the Nordics. The greys and reptilians are whole other matter though lol I think the non white races are more reptilian in naturealien03
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How did you figure that out? I always thought so too. That's why blacks are different from every other human race on earthabduct
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the word did not exist at the time of the first english translation of the bible. but the concept existed.
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the word did not exist at the time of the first english translation of the bible. but the concept existed.
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so you thought it right to just dump it right in there?

i know others who do that....
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the word did not exist at the time of the first english translation of the bible. but the concept existed.
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so you thought it right to just dump it right in there?

i know others who do that....
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the word did not exist at the time of the first english translation of the bible. but the concept existed.
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so you thought it right to just dump it right in there?

i know others who do that....
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no. but the concept existed already in the Bible. The problem is the language was limited so the writers had to use words that already existed to express the concept, ie., ascend.
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the word did not exist at the time of the first english translation of the bible. but the concept existed.
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so you thought it right to just dump it right in there?

i know others who do that....
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no. but the concept existed already in the Bible. The problem is the language was limited so the writers had to use words that already existed to express the concept, ie., ascend.
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Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

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did they "descend" too?


Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

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YES



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the word did not exist at the time of the first english translation of the bible. but the concept existed.
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude

so you thought it right to just dump it right in there?

i know others who do that....
 Quoting: infinitymindbox




no. but the concept existed already in the Bible. The problem is the language was limited so the writers had to use words that already existed to express the concept, ie., ascend.
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

like this?
 Quoting: infinitymindbox

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did they "descend" too?


Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

Like that?^^^
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so you thought it right to just dump it right in there?

i know others who do that....
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no. but the concept existed already in the Bible. The problem is the language was limited so the writers had to use words that already existed to express the concept, ie., ascend.
 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

like this?
 Quoting: infinitymindbox

 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude

lol

ladders are tools
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did they "descend" too?


Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

Like that?^^^
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 Quoting: Patriotic Black dude


vessel= ship
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My two favorite ET intel posters going at it right now. Somebody quick get the popcornpopcorn1rof1
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My two favorite ET intel posters going at it right now. Somebody quick get the popcornpopcorn1rof1
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popcorn





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