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FDA: Flea and Tick medications linked to neurological problems in Dogs and Cats


Dogs and Cats using Bravecto, Nexgard and Simparica, have experienced adverse events such as muscle tremors, ataxia and seizures, the FDA says.

So what do they do about it?

They issue a new label.

The FDA is working with manufacturers of isoxazoline products to include new label information on these issues.

If you must give one of these products to your pet, please watch them closely and call the vet if you notice any adverse side effects.


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5 natural solutions for flea and tick prevention

1. Natural oils
2. Garlic
3. Vinegar
4. Diatomaceous earth
5. Flea combs

[link to www.foxnews.com]


How to make a Natural Flea and Tick Remedy with Apple Cider Vinegar

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Edit: because of controversy over garlic

Some have had success with garlic, but we seem to be having a lot of controversy over whether or not it's safe to give your dog garlic.

After a quick review, I would recommend that we do not use garlic. It seems to be ok for some dogs, but not knowing the proper dosage or if your dog has a history of hemolytic anemia, garlic could cause serious problems.

If you have a pet that has a history of hemolytic anemia, it would be safest to avoid using garlic in any form.

Do not give garlic to cats.

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my stallion got dosed and it totally fucked him up permently
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Thank you Petpeeve for the important information. I've only ever used flea combs along with lots of carpet vacuuming. Works well plus they like the combing and it's quality bonding time. :)

Ticks I just pull off.

I would never put chemicals on an animal or give them those preventives. Poison is poison.
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my stallion got dosed and it totally fucked him up permently
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The poor thing. I hope it's not too bad and he is in no pain.

Get a letter from your vet and go after the makers. I can't believe that the most the FDA will do is to change the label. I think they should recall these medications until they're safe.
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my horses were given equioxx with out me knowing by my mother


it supposedly was a pain manegment drug because they are over 20
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Thank you Petpeeve for the important information. I've only ever used flea combs along with lots of carpet vacuuming. Works well plus they like the combing and it's quality bonding time. :)

Ticks I just pull off.

I would never put chemicals on an animal or give them those preventives. Poison is poison.
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Here in Australia we have paralysis ticks. After 3 days on a dog or cat, they start injecting a toxin that quickly kills.

Don't like using the tablets, but it is a must....

Pulled one off my woofa last week. Nasty little fuckers.
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Thank you Petpeeve for the important information. I've only ever used flea combs along with lots of carpet vacuuming. Works well plus they like the combing and it's quality bonding time. :)

Ticks I just pull off.

I would never put chemicals on an animal or give them those preventives. Poison is poison.
hf
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100% agree! Although my Boston had Lyme, I still won't use those poison pills. Now I inspect her from head to paw every day.
No ticks this year so far, last year was horrible.
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I'm not surprised. Same greedy sob's that medicate humans.
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We currently live in a suburban area with a large population of deer and use natural deer repellant spray and pellets around the property border and around the apple tree.

Around the lawn and in the garden we use Diatomaceous earth, garlic and mint spray and neem oil we cycle through each every two weeks.

One word of caution using vinegar it is a great natural weed, grass or any plant killer.

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We currently live in a suburban area with a large population of deer and use natural deer repellant spray and pellets around the property border and around the apple tree.

Around the lawn and in the garden we use Diatomaceous earth, garlic and mint spray and neem oil we cycle through each every two weeks.

One word of caution using vinegar it is a great natural weed, grass or any plant killer.

Vinegar Weed Killer: Grandma's Recipe For Fast Weed Control
[link to www.garden-counselor-lawn-care.com]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


We have a lot of deer too. I finally ended up fencing in a section of my yard just for the dogs. On occasion a deer will jump the fence, but not too often. The skunks are more of a problem. Last year my dog got sprayed right in the face. It was awful!! And to make things worse, I stupidly brought her into the house to wash her off. What a nightmare that turned out to be! It took weeks for the smell to finally go away.
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Thank you Petpeeve for the important information. I've only ever used flea combs along with lots of carpet vacuuming. Works well plus they like the combing and it's quality bonding time. :)

Ticks I just pull off.

I would never put chemicals on an animal or give them those preventives. Poison is poison.
hf
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100% agree! Although my Boston had Lyme, I still won't use those poison pills. Now I inspect her from head to paw every day.
No ticks this year so far, last year was horrible.
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Mine had Lyme and now I am more careful where we go. We used to hike a lot, now we just go to parks with a paved road.
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We currently live in a suburban area with a large population of deer and use natural deer repellant spray and pellets around the property border and around the apple tree.

Around the lawn and in the garden we use Diatomaceous earth, garlic and mint spray and neem oil we cycle through each every two weeks.

One word of caution using vinegar it is a great natural weed, grass or any plant killer.

Vinegar Weed Killer: Grandma's Recipe For Fast Weed Control
[link to www.garden-counselor-lawn-care.com]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


We have a lot of deer too. I finally ended up fencing in a section of my yard just for the dogs. On occasion a deer will jump the fence, but not too often. The skunks are more of a problem. Last year my dog got sprayed right in the face. It was awful!! And to make things worse, I stupidly brought her into the house to wash her off. What a nightmare that turned out to be! It took weeks for the smell to finally go away.
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Fenced our garden however we have two giant breed dogs a fenced area would not work for them or us at this time. Once our house is built and the property fenced, the dogs will have 40 to roam when watched and a fenced area around the house for added safety.

Until then a spraying, I will go to keep the deer and insects at bay.

Had an Australian Cattle dog cross that chased skunks when other dogs sensed the danger.

This works:

How to get rid of skunk spray odor smell
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5 natural solutions for flea and tick prevention

1. Natural oils
2. Garlic
3. Vinegar
4. Diatomaceous earth
5. Flea combs

[link to www.foxnews.com]


How to make a Natural Flea and Tick Remedy with Apple Cider Vinegar

[link to www.wikihow.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Petpeeve


This is not for fleas and ticks but we use:
(DermaLyte Shampoo - is a pH balanced hypo-allergenic, all-natural, moisturizing shampoo designed for allergic pets)

We live in a colder area with minimal flea problems.
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DO NOT USE GARLIC or it's OIL ON Cats or Dogs!!!!

A Small Amount of Garlic Can Be Toxic

Many people consider garlic to be a holistic remedy in the prevention of heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, warding off fleas and even certain types of cancer.

These potential medicinal benefits, however, are not effective for our pets. In fact, garlic is extremely toxic to dogs and cats and the consumption of even a small amount can lead to severe poisoning and, if not treated in time, death.

Why is Garlic Toxic to Pets?

Garlic is classified as a species of the Allium family. Other species in the Allium family include onions, shallots, leeks, chives and rakkyo (otherwise known as the Chinese onion).

If you suspect your dog or cat has ingested garlic, you should contact your veterinarian immediately.

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Thanks for getting the word out! I asked my daughter if she uses any of those brands. She has the most darling dalmatian named Moo. I would rather be with her than most humans. I have known her since she was a pup. She is the only dog I know that likes to give you hugs. Is it bad to say I want to go to my daughter's house just to see my buddy? tounge
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I have outdoor dogs and cats and use a generic non-isoxazoline product called Advecta. Inexpensive and very effective.


Advecta 3 is both tick and flea, which I give the dogs.

Advecta 2 is only flea which is safe for cats. I split doses of Advecta 2 for the cats giving each just .8 ml. One 55 lb dog dose can be split in five cat doses.
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So is coconut oil okay? Says to warm it up and rub it on the skin. I have tons of that. My dog and cat hate sprays and bathes.
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Gee, maybe we should only use poison when necessary? People use flea meds constantly on an animal, when it should only be used to correct a problem.
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So is coconut oil okay? Says to warm it up and rub it on the skin. I have tons of that. My dog and cat hate sprays and bathes.
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lol, yeah...lube them up with coconut oil. See how well that goes.
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Btw; Does anyone here use a natural solution for ear mites in their cats ears?
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Lots of ticks here this year. We used to use that stuff on our dogs but it didnt really make any difference. Just pull them off now and dogs are fine. Grass seeds inbetween their toes and in their ears is a bigger problem for us. Olive oil works great for that. Which we have plenty of as we produce it.
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So is coconut oil okay? Says to warm it up and rub it on the skin. I have tons of that. My dog and cat hate sprays and bathes.
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lol, yeah...lube them up with coconut oil. See how well that goes.
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DO NOT USE GARLIC or it's OIL ON Cats or Dogs!!!!

A Small Amount of Garlic Can Be Toxic

Many people consider garlic to be a holistic remedy in the prevention of heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, warding off fleas and even certain types of cancer.

These potential medicinal benefits, however, are not effective for our pets. In fact, garlic is extremely toxic to dogs and cats and the consumption of even a small amount can lead to severe poisoning and, if not treated in time, death.

Why is Garlic Toxic to Pets?

Garlic is classified as a species of the Allium family. Other species in the Allium family include onions, shallots, leeks, chives and rakkyo (otherwise known as the Chinese onion).

If you suspect your dog or cat has ingested garlic, you should contact your veterinarian immediately.
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Dunno why garlic is always brought up as flea prevention when it's as toxic as onions and raisins/grapes for dogs and cats.
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I've read a bunch of articles and can't find an answer.....does anyone know if the neurological reactions are acute or do they last, come and go or become chronic?
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Blue Dawn dish soap kills fleas on contact.
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Garlic is really bad for dogs and cats, please don't use it. Cats especially because they wash themselves and can ingest it that way.
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No kidding. We had flea problem and I used the wrong stuff almost killed my dog. Vet told me best is non toxic Seresto. And it killed all the fleas in the house. Best stuff ever but not cheap. $70
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Rose Geranium Oil To Repel Ticks


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Make sure it is the real stuff and is diluted. Can be used on cats and people as well... For cats, one drop between shoulder blades, where they cannot lick, is sufficient..


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There are two varieties of rose geranium oil. In order to get the most bang for your buck in repelling ticks, you want to find the one with the botanical name Pelargonium capitatum x radens. The more popular rose geranium oil under the name Pelargonium graveolens is from the same family, but not the same species...
...

...Since dogs are extremely sensitive to smell, you will want to go easy on the oil for your canine friends. One drop behind each shoulder blade and at the top of the base of the tail. Be careful to avoid the face and nose; their sensitive sniffers can't handle anything anything too strong...

...

Note:

The essential oil of rose geranium is one single oil and not a mixture of rose and geranium oils.

Not all essential oils are recommended for animals, especially cats and horses. Consult your veterinary doctor before using any essential oil

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You all have seen that Hartz brand flea collars and drops for dogs and cats at Walmarts and grocery stores?

Apparently it's really common for them to cause horrible disabling reactions in dogs and cats due to the chemicals used in them - think terrible chemical burns. Check out this website with thousands of testimonial horror stories:

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Please don't cheap out on flea preventive at Walmart - get some quality product from your veterinarian or a higher quality specialty pet store!!





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