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100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?

 
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100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?


One hundred years ago, death came with astonishing speed and horrifying agony.

Some influenza patients admitted to a Boston hospital in the morning of October 1918 would be dead by the evening, their bodies turning blue from lack of oxygen. Hospitals reported an average 100 deaths a day, overwhelming morgues.

Up to 500 million people – about one-third of the world’s population – became infected with the influenza virus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. As many as 50 million died, or one out of every 30 human beings on the planet, killing more American troops than those that died on World War I battlefields.

The intensity and speed with which it struck were almost unimaginable, the worst global pandemic in modern history.

Most chilling is that such a calamity could again occur today.

"A global influenza pandemic is No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 on our list of the most-feared public health crises," according to Michael Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy.


Another expert, Vanderbilt University infectious disease specialist William Schaffner, said "we fear flu. We know how serious it is."

Comment: It will happen again. It's just a matter of time. Pandemics are not conspiracy, not a false flag, not Big Pharma trying to sell vaccines. Mother Nature is a nasty bitch sometimes. And there's nothing we can do about it.

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what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.

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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
Read this book, and learn.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

by John M. Barry

*********************************************
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


The unusual age distribution of morbidity and mortality patterns during the pandemic is also noteworthy. Surveys conducted during 1918–1919 suggest that young adults (20–39 years of age) suffered high morbidity as well as CFR; persons 5–19 years of age had the highest morbidity but lowest CFR.7,14 In contrast, persons >˜50 years of age had the lowest morbidity, and a CFR was comparable to interpandemic seasons (Figures (Figures22 and and33 in ref. 3). Generally, our analysis on NYC mortality records agrees with these prior findings. In addition, a recent study by Viboud et al.28 found a minimum excess mortality risk at 9–10 years of age and a maximum at 24–26 years of age in fall 1918 in Kentucky. Here, we show that the fractional excess mortality dipped and peaked around the same age groups for NYC. This consistency suggests that these age-specific mortality patterns were not random.

It has been suggested that exposure to a former circulating strain among the older population provided specific partial immunoprotection.2,3 Even so, this suggestion cannot fully explain the differing CFR among children versus young adults who both had no exposure to this previously circulating strain. As concluded in Viboud et al.,28 this atypical age mortality patterns likely result from a combination of unknown factors.

*******************************************

And, it's the cytokine storm induced by influenza that is the big killer. That is the body's immune system attacking itself. And immune systems are strongest in young people.

50-500 million people died, all ages, all races.
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My bad....maybe it was Avian.
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100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?


One hundred years ago, death came with astonishing speed and horrifying agony.

Some influenza patients admitted to a Boston hospital in the morning of October 1918 would be dead by the evening, their bodies turning blue from lack of oxygen. Hospitals reported an average 100 deaths a day, overwhelming morgues.

Up to 500 million people – about one-third of the world’s population – became infected with the influenza virus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. As many as 50 million died, or one out of every 30 human beings on the planet, killing more American troops than those that died on World War I battlefields.

The intensity and speed with which it struck were almost unimaginable, the worst global pandemic in modern history.

Most chilling is that such a calamity could again occur today.

"A global influenza pandemic is No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 on our list of the most-feared public health crises," according to Michael Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy.


Another expert, Vanderbilt University infectious disease specialist William Schaffner, said "we fear flu. We know how serious it is."

Comment: It will happen again. It's just a matter of time. Pandemics are not conspiracy, not a false flag, not Big Pharma trying to sell vaccines. Mother Nature is a nasty bitch sometimes. And there's nothing we can do about it.
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yes

and there going to make sure it does.

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Read this book, and learn.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

by John M. Barry

*********************************************
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


The unusual age distribution of morbidity and mortality patterns during the pandemic is also noteworthy. Surveys conducted during 1918–1919 suggest that young adults (20–39 years of age) suffered high morbidity as well as CFR; persons 5–19 years of age had the highest morbidity but lowest CFR.7,14 In contrast, persons >˜50 years of age had the lowest morbidity, and a CFR was comparable to interpandemic seasons (Figures (Figures22 and and33 in ref. 3). Generally, our analysis on NYC mortality records agrees with these prior findings. In addition, a recent study by Viboud et al.28 found a minimum excess mortality risk at 9–10 years of age and a maximum at 24–26 years of age in fall 1918 in Kentucky. Here, we show that the fractional excess mortality dipped and peaked around the same age groups for NYC. This consistency suggests that these age-specific mortality patterns were not random.

It has been suggested that exposure to a former circulating strain among the older population provided specific partial immunoprotection.2,3 Even so, this suggestion cannot fully explain the differing CFR among children versus young adults who both had no exposure to this previously circulating strain. As concluded in Viboud et al.,28 this atypical age mortality patterns likely result from a combination of unknown factors.

*******************************************

And, it's the cytokine storm induced by influenza that is the big killer. That is the body's immune system attacking itself. And immune systems are strongest in young people.

50-500 million people died, all ages, all races.
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That is the body's immune system attacking itself.

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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
no

what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
no

what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.
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bfthis1
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Aspirin is certainly contra-indicated in many instances these days, when it was used freely in years past. However, aspirin had little-to-nothing to do with the severity of the pandemic of 1918.
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
no

what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.
 Quoting: beeches


bfthis1
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Aspirin is certainly contra-indicated in many instances these days, when it was used freely in years past. However, aspirin had little-to-nothing to do with the severity of the pandemic of 1918.
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I strongly disagree. I have read many, many credible
accounts like this:
[link to www.westernherbalmedicine.com (secure)]
(And no, just 'cause I seed it on de innwerweb don't mean I believes it.)
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OP, would not have posted about the perfect storm of influenza and aspirin in 1918 without reason.

thank you TN for the link.
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OP, do you really believe in the CDC and USAToday?
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
The CDC lumps pneumonia deaths together with the flu to raise flu death counts in their statistics.

I doubt the flu would kill 50 million people but a weaponized flu shot could. The current flu shot offers a slow death.

The proverbial "they" find slow deaths far more profitable.
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
no

what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.
 Quoting: beeches


:bfthis1:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Aspirin is certainly contra-indicated in many instances these days, when it was used freely in years past. However, aspirin had little-to-nothing to do with the severity of the pandemic of 1918.
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There ya go. Never a doubt in my mind. If you calm down, I bet mommy will have an extra cookie for dessert for you.


Oh, and BTW, with the TSA PreCheck, I would have been able to keep the cupcake, cupcake.
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Read this book, and learn.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

by John M. Barry

*********************************************
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


The unusual age distribution of morbidity and mortality patterns during the pandemic is also noteworthy. Surveys conducted during 1918–1919 suggest that young adults (20–39 years of age) suffered high morbidity as well as CFR; persons 5–19 years of age had the highest morbidity but lowest CFR.7,14 In contrast, persons >˜50 years of age had the lowest morbidity, and a CFR was comparable to interpandemic seasons (Figures (Figures22 and and33 in ref. 3). Generally, our analysis on NYC mortality records agrees with these prior findings. In addition, a recent study by Viboud et al.28 found a minimum excess mortality risk at 9–10 years of age and a maximum at 24–26 years of age in fall 1918 in Kentucky. Here, we show that the fractional excess mortality dipped and peaked around the same age groups for NYC. This consistency suggests that these age-specific mortality patterns were not random.

It has been suggested that exposure to a former circulating strain among the older population provided specific partial immunoprotection.2,3 Even so, this suggestion cannot fully explain the differing CFR among children versus young adults who both had no exposure to this previously circulating strain. As concluded in Viboud et al.,28 this atypical age mortality patterns likely result from a combination of unknown factors.

*******************************************

And, it's the cytokine storm induced by influenza that is the big killer. That is the body's immune system attacking itself. And immune systems are strongest in young people.

50-500 million people died, all ages, all races.
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That is the body's immune system attacking itself.

:thiss2:
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Good point about pink serving as a warning color.
That must be why as others have pointed out on here that n*ggerloving white women usually wear all bright pink. Basically they're warning white men "I'm a mudsh*rk so white men avoid me at all costs."

About having a no vacancy sign in pink yeah it'd keep away white men and white women that aren't mudsh*rks
Though it'd be sure to attract blacks and mudsh*rking white women. So the pink no vacancy sign could backfire on you if there's a lot of blacks mudsh*rks wanting to stay at your motel.
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
no

what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.
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Notice too how you never see a TSA bitch who's even remotely average looking let alone anything even remotely approaching hot. They are all butt ugly, masculine looking, fat, have ugly short hair and look like ugly man looking dykes. You never see a hot natural blonde blue eyed white girl with a nice body, beautiful face, beautiful long flowing healthy hair working for the TSA.

Of course if your a man you won't even be patted down by a woman. You'll be patted down by a homosexual man. So those men hoping that they'll have some hot natural blonde hair blue eyed girl with a great body, long beautiful hair, and a nice rack pat them down when they go through the TSA can forget about it.
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100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?


One hundred years ago, death came with astonishing speed and horrifying agony.

Some influenza patients admitted to a Boston hospital in the morning of October 1918 would be dead by the evening, their bodies turning blue from lack of oxygen. Hospitals reported an average 100 deaths a day, overwhelming morgues.

Up to 500 million people – about one-third of the world’s population – became infected with the influenza virus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. As many as 50 million died, or one out of every 30 human beings on the planet, killing more American troops than those that died on World War I battlefields.

The intensity and speed with which it struck were almost unimaginable, the worst global pandemic in modern history.

Most chilling is that such a calamity could again occur today.

"A global influenza pandemic is No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 on our list of the most-feared public health crises," according to Michael Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy.


Another expert, Vanderbilt University infectious disease specialist William Schaffner, said "we fear flu. We know how serious it is."

Comment: It will happen again. It's just a matter of time. Pandemics are not conspiracy, not a false flag, not Big Pharma trying to sell vaccines. Mother Nature is a nasty bitch sometimes. And there's nothing we can do about it.
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No, probably not with our modern medicine. Looks like democrat fear porn.
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
Read this book, and learn.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

by John M. Barry

*********************************************
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


The unusual age distribution of morbidity and mortality patterns during the pandemic is also noteworthy. Surveys conducted during 1918–1919 suggest that young adults (20–39 years of age) suffered high morbidity as well as CFR; persons 5–19 years of age had the highest morbidity but lowest CFR.7,14 In contrast, persons >˜50 years of age had the lowest morbidity, and a CFR was comparable to interpandemic seasons (Figures (Figures22 and and33 in ref. 3). Generally, our analysis on NYC mortality records agrees with these prior findings. In addition, a recent study by Viboud et al.28 found a minimum excess mortality risk at 9–10 years of age and a maximum at 24–26 years of age in fall 1918 in Kentucky. Here, we show that the fractional excess mortality dipped and peaked around the same age groups for NYC. This consistency suggests that these age-specific mortality patterns were not random.

It has been suggested that exposure to a former circulating strain among the older population provided specific partial immunoprotection.2,3 Even so, this suggestion cannot fully explain the differing CFR among children versus young adults who both had no exposure to this previously circulating strain. As concluded in Viboud et al.,28 this atypical age mortality patterns likely result from a combination of unknown factors.

*******************************************

And, it's the cytokine storm induced by influenza that is the big killer. That is the body's immune system attacking itself. And immune systems are strongest in young people.

50-500 million people died, all ages, all races.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


I was born in Michigan! But we moved when I was 3 so I don’t remember anything about dogs real clearly (hah) Glad to hear you’re enjoying the same dog friendly culture now!
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They were fucking poisoned by a (((Banker))) developed bioweapon which first appeared near Kansas City.

Aspirin has been around for millennia and is fast far safer than paracetamol. It is a scapegoat for the true cause.
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I don't think we would get that lucky.

However, these new non-vaccine shots, intend to pick up where nature left off. All by design of course.
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Same story then as now.
Gates and Rockefellers made a new vax and injected 2000 soldiers in Kansas and sent them of to Europe,the rest is History.
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Read this book, and learn.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

by John M. Barry

*********************************************
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


The unusual age distribution of morbidity and mortality patterns during the pandemic is also noteworthy. Surveys conducted during 1918–1919 suggest that young adults (20–39 years of age) suffered high morbidity as well as CFR; persons 5–19 years of age had the highest morbidity but lowest CFR.7,14 In contrast, persons >˜50 years of age had the lowest morbidity, and a CFR was comparable to interpandemic seasons (Figures (Figures22 and and33 in ref. 3). Generally, our analysis on NYC mortality records agrees with these prior findings. In addition, a recent study by Viboud et al.28 found a minimum excess mortality risk at 9–10 years of age and a maximum at 24–26 years of age in fall 1918 in Kentucky. Here, we show that the fractional excess mortality dipped and peaked around the same age groups for NYC. This consistency suggests that these age-specific mortality patterns were not random.

It has been suggested that exposure to a former circulating strain among the older population provided specific partial immunoprotection.2,3 Even so, this suggestion cannot fully explain the differing CFR among children versus young adults who both had no exposure to this previously circulating strain. As concluded in Viboud et al.,28 this atypical age mortality patterns likely result from a combination of unknown factors.

*******************************************

And, it's the cytokine storm induced by influenza that is the big killer. That is the body's immune system attacking itself. And immune systems are strongest in young people.

50-500 million people died, all ages, all races.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Absolute lies
The elderly did not trust big pharma and it’s poisons so they did not by and large take its aspirin, the younger crowd did.

It’s been proven by autopsy that nearly all died by bacterial pneumonia not viral pneumonia. Aspirin toxicity (proven decades later) causes three major things in the body: wet lungs, suppression of the cough reflex and prostration. The three things that set the stage for bacterial pneumonia to overwhelm a patient.

Studies have been done over the decades comparing death rates in homeopath hospitals and big pharma hospitals. In 1918 many cities around the world still had sizeable hospitals of both. The death rates??? Like 1% max in homeopath and 40-+% in aspirin prescribing hospitals.
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Re: 100 years ago, influenza killed as many as 50 million people. Could it happen again today?
no

what killed them, mostly young men by the way

was the newly introduced product called aspirin.

the soldiers were supposed to eat it like candy


Aspirin combined with fever causes terrible things, like Reyes Syndrome, which is basically the same as polio.

and death.

no aspirin is given to febrile children and young people today.
 Quoting: beeches


:bfthis1:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Aspirin is certainly contra-indicated in many instances these days, when it was used freely in years past. However, aspirin had little-to-nothing to do with the severity of the pandemic of 1918.
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Why did homeopath hospitals and doctors who treated millions have less than 1% death rate in their patients versus 40%+ in doctors who prescribed mainly aspirin by the handful?
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They were fucking poisoned by a (((Banker))) developed bioweapon which first appeared near Kansas City.

Aspirin has been around for millennia and is fast far safer than paracetamol. It is a scapegoat for the true cause.
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aspirin as we know it is a synthetic drug.
It was not until decades after the event that its toxic properties were known.
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There is much army evidence through freedom of information acts that provide evidence of new and mass vaccine trials underway as the us soldiers prepared for departure to the war, and describes in great detail the immediate illness amongst those soldiers that set in.
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Vaccine Induced Illness
VID

Like today...and my suspicion is on the flu jabs, particularly the introduction of the dog cell grown ones. Why did the USA fda for example approve the TETra dog cell grown flu vaccine exactly 767 weeks after two 767s allegedly pierced those towers? Why did it come into Europe/UK in October 2019?





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