Most Christian prayers do not make it directly to Jesus. In fact, most require intercessors.

The saints in heaven are the intercessors you need. They're perfect and with God all of the time. Any prayers I've had answered have been through prayers to the saints.

you are one of the few who is aware of this truth. God Bless you.

OP 1 you shouldn't be trying to teach without experience with obeying Jesus' commands and not having experience communing with him.

2 you're wrong, and you preach untruth but thanks for bringing up the subject.

3 your methods of drugging yourself to learn insight really says something.


Intercessors are only needed if someone is in sin and too ashamed to talk with God Jesus. An intercessor is ineffective if they too are in sin, and most Christians are and think they are not.

St. John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Intercessors are not needed as long as a person speaks directly to God Jesus asking him to forgive them of all their sins and then proceedes with requests. Or if the person is not in sin and knows it and proceeds with requests directly to Jesus Christ.

Jesus desires a relationship with each and every one of his people and wills that they not rely on the prayers of others but speak with him directly - but not ever denying the prayers or desire to pray from others as it is his will.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Your opinion is duly noted by rejected. I speak from spiritual experience.

I'm still pretty sure Jesus don't like religion at all.

religion is about control

When you hear lies and preach lies it makes you a liar. But some do it ignorantly and some are sure of the lies they believe.

No one after Jesus has entered into heaven.
People on earth are transformed into "saints" (sinless ones) by obedience to the guidance of their relationship with Jesus the Holy Spirit.
The saints are dead and asleep and awaiting resurrection.
Praying to the dead from our perspective is an abominaction in the eyes of God Jesus. They cannot hear you or help you.
Praying to someone else except the living God Jesus Christ is like asking them to ask Jesus.
Jesus wants you to speak with him yourself.

You need to be brainwashed by Jesus from your Catholic conditioning.

you are indoctrinated by a fictitious doctrine concocted by perverted men. Here is what you missed out on...

Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.

Those saints intercede on behalf humanity.

You an OG, playa!!!

Preach!

Gosh... Ascend means to go up. If the saints are in heaven their prayers don't go up they go over to Jesus. There is always saints living when other saints die and are dead and are asleep and are awaiting to be woken at the resurrection.

St. Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

You ought to understand that not all Christians are the same in that those with the Holy Spirit are called children of God and those believers without are also called servants of God.

St. John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
St. John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

Titles separate us into categories. Even the children of God Jesus are also his servants but we are not merely servants of God who do not want to live in holiness. Jesus gave a parable where the servants of God kill the sons of God - because they are lukewarm, do not care about their Master, are traitors who also do the will of Satan the enemy of their Master Christ Jesus.

Obey Jesus' commands for understanding you will never be able to figure it out sitting in a leather chair.

I hope his name is Jesus Christ the man who died for your sins.

NO intercessors are necessary. This is Catholic BS.

God the Father and Christ are Omniscient and Omnipresent, which means they can absolutely hear your prayers.

The reason why God doesn't answer your prayers, is because God doesn't answer most prayers. Earth is supposed to be a test, a proving ground, not a paradise. God isn't your personal prayer ATM.

If you want God to pay attention to you, let the Spirit of Christ into your Heart and Soul(NOT Mary or any intercessor). Then He will definitely notice you. Most people fail to do this, and belief in 'intercessors' is one of the reasons WHY people fail to let Christ in.

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I pray directly to God unless I need to find something, then it's Saint Anthony. I don't ask him often, but it always works.

I also thank and often apologize to my guardian angels when I'm driving.

1 correction, if you want God Jesus to pay attention to you then pay attention to his will and do it.

St. Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Hey now! I'm not praying to him. Sorry my bad, I wasn't clear. That Irish cunt finds my shit!

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This is some dangerous bullshit! Telling people to invite lower spiritual forces in to talk to God. Why don't you just go ahead and tell them to stand in the middle of a pentagram too while you're at it!

That's not true at all. If anyone prays to the Lord sincerely then He will hear them.

You need to go study the Book of Hebrews in depth.

Always making stuff up this guy.

Doctrines of demons

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
James 1:27 New International Version (NIV)
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btw - James is thought to be a brother of Jesus Christ, blood brother.

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Not to put too fine a point on this, but you'd do well to go re-read the FIRST Commandment:

"I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no others before me."
It seems to me this Commandment includes Jesus.

When I pray, I pray only to God. YHVH. Directly. It seems to me you should too.

"Obey Jesus then...."? I'm GOOD with that!

How about YOU?

Can you show us IN SCRIPTURE.... where Jesus Yashua say to "pray to ME"?

It's ALL ABOUT the Father. EVERYTHING Yashua SAID and DID was FROM the Father.

I guess you missed those parts of scripture.

Matthew 6

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Yeah, you can get a family pack of Intercessors for $5.99 at Walmart... they're on special this week. (The red and green ones look really smart!).

Sadly, like most things, Walmart Intercessors are "Made in China", but if you go to a charity store, you can usually pick up a second and pair of American made intercessors for just a dollar or two.

Jesus Christ is an incorruptible man and God Almighty in human form. Do you throw away the new testament for the old?

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Jesus is alive and well and having never sinned as only God can do.