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What the media aren’t telling you about Jamal Khashoggi!!!!!

 
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What the media aren’t telling you about Jamal Khashoggi!!!!!
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... IF this is true! ...
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... what happened to him was awful BUT seems this is the world he lived in!!!!! ...
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The fate of Khashoggi has at least provoked global outrage, but it’s for all the wrong reasons. We are told he was a liberal, Saudi progressive voice fighting for freedom and democracy, and a martyr who paid the ultimate price for telling the truth to power. This is not just wrong, but distracts us from understanding what the incident tells us about the internal power dynamics of a kingdom going through an unprecedented period of upheaval. It is also the story of how one man got entangled in a Saudi ruling family that operates like the Mafia. Once you join, it’s for life, and if you try to leave, you become disposable.

In truth, Khashoggi never had much time for western-style pluralistic democracy. In the 1970s he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the ‘moderate’ Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy.

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Kash wut?

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I've asked this before and still haven't got an answer but I wonder what the relationship is (if any) between Jamal and Adnan Khashoggi?

Adnan Khashoggi
Saudi Arabian businessman
Adnan Khashoggi was a Saudi Arabian businessman and arms dealer, known for his lavish business deals and lifestyle. He is estimated to have had a peak net worth of around US$4 billion in the early 1980s.
Born: July 25, 1935, Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Died: June 6, 2017, The Harley Street Clinic Diagnostic Centre, London, United Kingdom
Spouse: Soraya Khashoggi (m. 1961–1974)
Children: Nabila Khashoggi, Hussein Khashoggi, Mohammed Khashoggi, Omar Khashoggi, Khalid Khashoggi, Ali Khashoggi
Education: Stanford University, California State University, Chico, Victoria College, Alexandria, Ohio State University
Siblings: Samira Khashoggi, Soheir Khashoggi, Essam Khashoggi
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This is the way the world ends.
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Not with a bang but with a whimper.
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regarding Saudi surveillance of the embassy:
"The Saudis could “catch a bird or a mosquito with the advanced systems they have,” Erdogan added."

We think Saudi is some mudhut cavedweller backwards government. Fact is, they are way more advanced and capable than we can ever imagine.
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I've asked this before and still haven't got an answer but I wonder what the relationship is (if any) between Jamal and Adnan Khashoggi?

Adnan Khashoggi
Saudi Arabian businessman
Adnan Khashoggi was a Saudi Arabian businessman and arms dealer, known for his lavish business deals and lifestyle. He is estimated to have had a peak net worth of around US$4 billion in the early 1980s.
Born: July 25, 1935, Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Died: June 6, 2017, The Harley Street Clinic Diagnostic Centre, London, United Kingdom
Spouse: Soraya Khashoggi (m. 1961–1974)
Children: Nabila Khashoggi, Hussein Khashoggi, Mohammed Khashoggi, Omar Khashoggi, Khalid Khashoggi, Ali Khashoggi
Education: Stanford University, California State University, Chico, Victoria College, Alexandria, Ohio State University
Siblings: Samira Khashoggi, Soheir Khashoggi, Essam Khashoggi
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


Most of these guys are educated in the United States. The mastermind of 911 went to college in North Carolina.

Terrorists all (all) have degrees in engineering.

We have no idea what we are up against.
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... I think Erdogan/turkey is working to cause trouble ...
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Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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I've asked this before and still haven't got an answer but I wonder what the relationship is (if any) between Jamal and Adnan Khashoggi?

Adnan Khashoggi
Saudi Arabian businessman
Adnan Khashoggi was a Saudi Arabian businessman and arms dealer, known for his lavish business deals and lifestyle. He is estimated to have had a peak net worth of around US$4 billion in the early 1980s.
Born: July 25, 1935, Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Died: June 6, 2017, The Harley Street Clinic Diagnostic Centre, London, United Kingdom
Spouse: Soraya Khashoggi (m. 1961–1974)
Children: Nabila Khashoggi, Hussein Khashoggi, Mohammed Khashoggi, Omar Khashoggi, Khalid Khashoggi, Ali Khashoggi
Education: Stanford University, California State University, Chico, Victoria College, Alexandria, Ohio State University
Siblings: Samira Khashoggi, Soheir Khashoggi, Essam Khashoggi
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I've been wondering the same thing.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
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can some chan sleuthers nail this down are they related? nephew?

its been bothering me for last 24 hrs too
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Muslim Brotherhood is MI6


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One of great Anti-Christ businessman henchmen.
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"Saudi Royal Whistleblower reveals that Khashoggi was killed by the Saudi Royals, senior princes are about to have a meeting and want to use this event to get rid of the King and his son due to the ramifications of this murder"
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also this:
"Rumor in Saudi-Arabia is that senior anti-MBS princes are having an emergency meeting tomorrow. There are also some reports that several princes have disappeared over the last week"

and thus the swing in stock market (al Waleed owned a huge portion prior to his Las Vegas shooting incident and had to give a lot of his money to MBS in legal settlement).
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Regarding holding Saudi responsible for Khashoggi:
“They’re spending $110 billion purchasing military equipment and other things,” he (Trump) said of the Saudis during the bill signing in the Oval Office. “If we don’t sell it to them, they’ll say, ‘Well, thank you very much. We’ll buy it from Russia.’ Or ‘Thank you very much. We’ll buy it from China.’ That doesn’t help us — not when it comes to jobs and not when it comes to our companies losing out on that work.”

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Trump is not going to go after Saudi because of a business deal? I think that business would gladly sacrifice 110 billion for Homeland Security and to nail Saudi once and for all.

Who cares about the money when MBS opened season with assassination of Khashoggi and everything is on tape?

Maybe Trump is playing the straight guy and Turkey is the patsy?

Or is Trump selling the 110b to the other princes and will hold MBS and Salman accountable? Deal of the Century? Then US relationship with Saudi turned the Totalitarian Dictatorship into an emerging Democracy and they Westernize and no more terrorism?

hmmm.
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I've asked this before and still haven't got an answer but I wonder what the relationship is (if any) between Jamal and Adnan Khashoggi?

Adnan Khashoggi
Saudi Arabian businessman
Adnan Khashoggi was a Saudi Arabian businessman and arms dealer, known for his lavish business deals and lifestyle. He is estimated to have had a peak net worth of around US$4 billion in the early 1980s.
Born: July 25, 1935, Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Died: June 6, 2017, The Harley Street Clinic Diagnostic Centre, London, United Kingdom
Spouse: Soraya Khashoggi (m. 1961–1974)
Children: Nabila Khashoggi, Hussein Khashoggi, Mohammed Khashoggi, Omar Khashoggi, Khalid Khashoggi, Ali Khashoggi
Education: Stanford University, California State University, Chico, Victoria College, Alexandria, Ohio State University
Siblings: Samira Khashoggi, Soheir Khashoggi, Essam Khashoggi
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I've been wondering the same thing.
 Quoting: Factual Error


Me too.
Arms dealer back in the 80s, and seemingly had a hand in all sorts of things back then..think Bush/Clinton/CIA. Books and videos back then in the conspiracy community referred to him quite a bit.
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then silence.
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Pretty informative background info. Thanks for posting this.
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Simple truth...A cocky double agent who got his dick in a wire
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what the fuck is going with this so called 'gulen cult' anyways??? any turkish experts here?
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Jamal Khashoggi case: Saudis defy 'threats' over missing writer

BBC less than 33%
Saudi Arabia rejects political and economic "threats" over missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a source quoted by state news agency SPA says.

The country would respond to any punitive action "with a bigger one", the unnamed senior source said.

Mr Khashoggi, a critic of the Saudi government, vanished on 2 October after visiting its consulate in Istanbul.

US President Donald Trump said he would "punish" Saudi Arabia if it were found responsible for killing him.

On Sunday a joint statement by the foreign ministers of the UK, France and Germany called for a credible investigation to ensure those responsible for Mr Khashoggi's disappearance were held to account.

"We encourage joint Saudi-Turkish efforts in that regard, and expect the Saudi Government to provide a complete and detailed response," said Jeremy Hunt, Jean-Yves Le Drian and Heiko Maas.

Britain and the US are considering boycotting a major international conference in Saudi Arabia this month.





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