DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA: High School Math Scores in Freefall | |
Torchie
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Wisteria
(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
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Wisteria
(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it has something to do with not giving out homework and allowing the children to retake tests until they get a good grade. Quoting: jkm1864 Or lowering the passing grades so everyone can 'feel' good about how they performed on the test. “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
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Deplorable Paw of Oak
It's the wood that makes it good User ID: 75276837 United States 10/23/2018 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think kids already get a passing mark by just putting their name on the paper. You don't want to have them meltdown Last Edited by Oaken Paw on 10/23/2018 02:03 PM Everything has got to be a THING today |
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Cardiak
User ID: 75459506 United States 10/23/2018 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tried to help my nephew out with common core math and holyshit... reading the directions for how to do those math problems was like having a lobotomy. A math problem that would normally take 3-4 seconds to solve in 1 or 2 steps was closer to 10-15 steps and took over a minute of retardedness. If I ever saw that math from someone I hired they would be fired on the spot. How that shit ever got passed is a travesty. The department of education should be entirely defunded for this alone |
A1Janitor
User ID: 58658563 United States 10/23/2018 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tried to help my nephew out with common core math and holyshit... reading the directions for how to do those math problems was like having a lobotomy. A math problem that would normally take 3-4 seconds to solve in 1 or 2 steps was closer to 10-15 steps and took over a minute of retardedness. If I ever saw that math from someone I hired they would be fired on the spot. How that shit ever got passed is a travesty. The department of education should be entirely defunded for this alone Quoting: Cardiak LMAO How discouraging it was as a math major in college who did very well in math - spend half an hour on 8th grade math problem and give up in disgust! I told him to leave me alone and ask the teacher. He told me the teacher didn’t know how to do it either. The teacher confirmed it to me in open house. |
In Yer Neck
User ID: 72590658 United States 10/23/2018 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know they do work hard, especially considering they have little to work with and severe overcrowding. On top of that, they are projecting a teacher shortage of around 100,000 by either 2021, or 2025. That said, I think many of the unions have done wrong by the teachers. Much of their training is based on social justice nonsense. Which leads to an overabundance of teachers who are left with no time to actually TEACH. Most students retain very little from the previous year, because they are only taught to memorize info for the standardized tests, to get more money for the schools. I would guess half the year is spent on remedial teaching of the year before. This info is culminated by 8th grade ( transition from grade school to high school). The last studies posted showed that fewer than 50% of 8th graders were proficient in English or math, in all US states,for the 8th grade. Teachers may work hard, but we have a serious public education problem in this country. Unless teachers get a hold on their Political Action centered unions, it is NOT going to get any better. It's been swell, but the swellings gone down.- Tank girl "To hell with them fella's. Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms." - Josey Wales. |
Wisteria
(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tried to help my nephew out with common core math and holyshit... reading the directions for how to do those math problems was like having a lobotomy. A math problem that would normally take 3-4 seconds to solve in 1 or 2 steps was closer to 10-15 steps and took over a minute of retardedness. If I ever saw that math from someone I hired they would be fired on the spot. How that shit ever got passed is a travesty. The department of education should be entirely defunded for this alone Quoting: Cardiak interesting. and yet so sad. “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
Beso
User ID: 75778641 United States 10/23/2018 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tried to help my nephew out with common core math and holyshit... reading the directions for how to do those math problems was like having a lobotomy. A math problem that would normally take 3-4 seconds to solve in 1 or 2 steps was closer to 10-15 steps and took over a minute of retardedness. If I ever saw that math from someone I hired they would be fired on the spot. How that shit ever got passed is a travesty. The department of education should be entirely defunded for this alone Quoting: Cardiak Absolutely this! ~If everyone would take responsibility for their actions or lack of, then we could all be free~ |
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(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good video. She explains the process and the pitfall well. ty Last Edited by @MoonPie on 10/23/2018 02:15 PM “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
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Wisteria
(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing beyond basic algebra is needed unless you're in some AP higher ed class and you're looking to make math your life. Advanced math is useless if you're not and hinders many students from excelling academically in other areas. Quoting: Billy Tubbs To think logically can be useful in all aspects of life. Math is a subject in which there is NO gray area. You are either right OR wrong. You cannot be both. Thus, you learn cause and effect. Personally, I believe this to be invaluable. “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
Zedakah
User ID: 76658391 United States 10/23/2018 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing beyond basic algebra is needed unless you're in some AP higher ed class and you're looking to make math your life. Advanced math is useless if you're not and hinders many students from excelling academically in other areas. Quoting: Billy Tubbs You will need math if you want to learn computer coding. Nearly all stem fields are moving more towards managing databases and coding for statistics. |
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Billy Tubbs
User ID: 75068487 United States 10/23/2018 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe if they wouldn't have changed the way the teach then kids would have a chance. Quoting: jkm1864 The difficulty in requirements to pass or graduate has gone UP. You can't pass with a D or even a C any more. Used to anything above 50 was passing. It was moved to 60 by the time I graduated and is probably higher now. You can't get by with average grades. |
Tim_Patterson
User ID: 30513709 United States 10/23/2018 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually they are not teach proper math. This is the reason ... envision Math [link to www.chronicle.com (secure)] My kid is going through this nonsense and I am at war with the teaching staff and principle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76372112 United States 10/23/2018 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The creators of the ACT test announced on Wednesday that scores for the class of 2018 are the worst reported in decades. Math scores, in fact, are in freefall among ACT-tested U.S. high school graduates, falling to their lowest mark in 14 years, according to The Condition of College and Career Readiness 2018, the ACT’s annual report. Quoting: Wisteria [link to pjmedia.com (secure)] I suppose we will continue to outsource our engineering jobs to india & china. Math isnt important if you want a video game streamer career ! People are making big $$$ playing Fortnite. |
Wisteria
(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The creators of the ACT test announced on Wednesday that scores for the class of 2018 are the worst reported in decades. Math scores, in fact, are in freefall among ACT-tested U.S. high school graduates, falling to their lowest mark in 14 years, according to The Condition of College and Career Readiness 2018, the ACT’s annual report. Quoting: Wisteria [link to pjmedia.com (secure)] I suppose we will continue to outsource our engineering jobs to india & china. Math isnt important if you want a video game streamer career ! People are making big $$$ playing Fortnite. Perhaps a few, like pro sports players, actors, or musicians. “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76372112 United States 10/23/2018 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The creators of the ACT test announced on Wednesday that scores for the class of 2018 are the worst reported in decades. Math scores, in fact, are in freefall among ACT-tested U.S. high school graduates, falling to their lowest mark in 14 years, according to The Condition of College and Career Readiness 2018, the ACT’s annual report. Quoting: Wisteria [link to pjmedia.com (secure)] I suppose we will continue to outsource our engineering jobs to india & china. Two words COMMON CORE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76372112 United States 10/23/2018 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The creators of the ACT test announced on Wednesday that scores for the class of 2018 are the worst reported in decades. Math scores, in fact, are in freefall among ACT-tested U.S. high school graduates, falling to their lowest mark in 14 years, according to The Condition of College and Career Readiness 2018, the ACT’s annual report. Quoting: Wisteria [link to pjmedia.com (secure)] I suppose we will continue to outsource our engineering jobs to india & china. Math isnt important if you want a video game streamer career ! People are making big $$$ playing Fortnite. Perhaps a few, like pro sports players, actors, or musicians. I talked to a kid about his career day. He said over half of the class wanted to be youtube stars when they grow up Thats how detached they are from reality |
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(OP) User ID: 28698215 United States 10/23/2018 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The creators of the ACT test announced on Wednesday that scores for the class of 2018 are the worst reported in decades. Math scores, in fact, are in freefall among ACT-tested U.S. high school graduates, falling to their lowest mark in 14 years, according to The Condition of College and Career Readiness 2018, the ACT’s annual report. Quoting: Wisteria [link to pjmedia.com (secure)] I suppose we will continue to outsource our engineering jobs to india & china. Math isnt important if you want a video game streamer career ! People are making big $$$ playing Fortnite. Perhaps a few, like pro sports players, actors, or musicians. I talked to a kid about his career day. He said over half of the class wanted to be youtube stars when they grow up Thats how detached they are from reality how old were they? “Shallow men believe in luck or in circumstance. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.” — Albert Einstein. "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does" — Janis Ian |