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The Urantia book was authored by demonic influences, not Yahweh

 
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Who is Yahweh? He doesn't exist.

It is not the name of the FATHER of the Trinity at all. The urantia book is about the cosmos and the last 3rd about the life of Jesus. I assume you never even opened it up? Or so stuck you could not see past what you "believe".

Love you anyway OP.. you make some nice posts here. You cannot comprehend WHO Jesus was... unless you read it. :Triple Hearts:
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YAHWEH is FICTION OP... does not exist except maybe as some shit human long ago.
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Again, you are nothing but another downright blasphemers soulless beast of the earth attention slut J** with seven batshit crazy unclean spirits partying inside and shall perish with with the rest of almost 58% mankind along with evildoers.

For you shall also become a FICTION, nothing more and nothing less.

Most people do believe in God. Surveys show that in recent years belief in God has actually increased on our planet.

Yes, I’m happy to say that the largest number of you do believe in Me. So it’s not your belief in Me that creates problems, it’s your belief about Me.

One of the things you believe about Me is that I do not want you to know Me. Some of you even believe that you dare not so much as utter My name. Others feel that you should not write the word “God,” but, out of respect, should write “G-D.” Still others of you say that it’s all right to speak My name, but that it must be My correct name, and that if it’s an incorrect name, you will have committed a blasphemy.

But whether you call Me Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Allah, or Charlie, I am still Who I am, What I am, Where I am, and I will not stop loving you because you got my name wrong, for heaven sake.

So you can stop quarreling over what to call Me.

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There are truth and lies in ALL recorded religious and indoctrinating papers.
This is not an existance of understanding, more a test of your faith and fortitude.

Can you be steered? Do you drive yourself? How far do you bend before you break?

We are in a petri dish.
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I couldnt have said it better. You are either the experiencer, or the catalyst for someone elses experience here, period.
I wont deny that my role here is to deny....
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RV Bret did a project on it, result
mantis alien source
subtle control agenda

to be fair, most cultist books are channeled
including the really popular ones
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Exactly, there is a boatload of truth in the book but the agenda behind the presentation is one of subtle manipulation to keep the reader attached to the idea of paradisical living within the temporary universe instead of FULL and UNMOTIVATED self-surrender to the will of God the Father of all things seen AND UNSEEN (the eternal realm beyond this temporary universe).
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According to the Ra Material, Urantia book was transmitted by discarnate entities of the inner planes, meaning not from beyond-earth beings.

According to Zetatalk, Urantia is fiction but should not be disregarded for that reason alone, since fiction can be a valid method for revealing truth.

Ra says Oahspe was transmitted by members of their own council, but Ra teaches reincarnation whereas Oahspe does not. So no one asked the harder question, why the difference?

No one is handing us the the whole truth, and we need to remember that.
It is for our own spiritual growth that we are given the freedom to seek the truth, and it is the seeking that leads to spiritual growth, And the reason for so many variances is that one idea or approach might be outright rejected by one person whereas another would be more acceptable and lead to further seeking. (That’s from the Ra material I think)

I believe the purpose and project of these new age teachings is to tear down the old religions in order to free our minds and seek the truth about the true nature of God, the Creator, the unseen worlds around us, and the higher heavens to which we can all attain forever without limit. (That’s from Oahspe)

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ALL IS ONE IS ALL, to you directly. You are calling it unethical to expose you? You will burn forever in the lake of fire for turning people away from the Truth.

Jesus said I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

He cannot lie, He never has, He is sinless.

You are in a very dark and dangerous place.
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 Quoting: Herr Decider


I believe the purpose and project of these new age teachings is to tear down the old religions in order to free our minds and seek the truth about the true nature of God and the unseen worlds around us.
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sorry but I disagree. the purpose of new-age is to deceive. Those pushing new-age junk and similar non-biblical junk want you to have an "open mind" to what they are peddling". why? because they want to fill that open mind with all kinds of lies, deceptions, blasphemies. they want to create doubt in what we know is the truth and way (Jesus and the bible)

so I say no thanks to that crap, I'll keep my mind closed to it and its lies and decptions, and I'll stick to the truth of GOD's word, the Holy Bible. And I'll stick to Jesus for salvation.
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i mean someone says 'do you get the point?' just like they say 'will you take point' ? one means do you understand what i told you, another means will you go to the position that will benefit the squad's current situation

in the same way, names like 'yah' and 'El' have been so shat on, and liquidated, that people dont know if they all are different names for the same being, or rather all different names for each assigned beings or entities..

the sad 'point' of this is that literally tons of world scripture about this concept have been lost, burned, hidden, or utterly destroyed beyond anything that we could recover for proper evidence and conclusions.
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For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 2 TIMOTHY 4:3-4

For me the Urantia Book's mark of "demonic" influence is its total lack of understanding regarding the Christian doctrine of sin or salvation. Other religions are constantly portrayed as "primitive" religions practiced by "primitive men."

Biblical concepts are exchanged for an evolutionary theory which is used to explain the basis for religious differences. The book quotes and paraphrases several portions of the Bible and distorts key biblical truths. For example:

As the savage mind evolved to that point where it envisaged both good and bad spirits, and when the taboo received the solemn sanction of evolving religion, the stage was all set for the appearance of the new conception of sin. p. 975

The concepts of substitutionary atonement and propitiation with blood are viewed by the Urantia as grotesque and grossly primitive. Primitive man believed that something special must be done to win the favor of the gods; only advanced civilization recognizes a consistently even-tempered and benevolent God. p.974

Similar to other cults, the Urantia book speaks of:

the Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men. p. 1085
and

God...who dwells, by his spirit, in every sincere human soul. p. 1453.

The Urantia book is said to be written by many people but due to the extraordinary volume of detailed and complex information, it is difficult to conclude that the Urantia Book was the product of multiple imaginations. While that is not out of the realm of possibility, a more plausible explanation is some form of genuine demonic influence.

Similar to the claim for the Book of Mormon, divine revelation did not cease with the 66 canonical books of the Old and New Testaments. However, the Mormon product pales by comparison to the encyclopedic detail and complexity of the Urantia Book. The fact that the Urantia Book agrees with the Bible in certain areas confirms the fact that the author (human and/or demonic) had some level of understanding regarding spiritual themes.

Further, while select statements found in the Urantia Book are not necessarily contradictory to the Bible, a number of critical topics are diametrically in disagreement with sound, orthodox Christian teaching.

We may resort to pure revelation only when the concept of presentation has had no adequate previous expression by the human mind. p.16

...in making these presentations about God and his universe associates, we have selected as the basis of these papers more than one thousand human concepts representing the highest and most advanced planetary knowledge of spiritual values and universal meanings. Wherein these human concepts, assembled from the God-knowing mortals of the past and the present, are inadequate to portray the truth as we are directed to reveal it, we will unhesitatingly supplement them, for this purpose drawing upon our own superior knowledge of the reality and divinity of the Paradise Deities and their transcendent residential universe. p. 17

The Holy Spirit, via the Apostle Paul, instructs believers that spirit beings were capable of communicating with human beings and warned the Christians living in the providence of Galatia to beware of such apocryphal messages.

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned [anathema]! Galatians 1:8

The proverbial "nail in the coffin" (for me at least) is found on page 1343. The source of the book clearly states that the majority book was based on already available sources.

In carrying out my commission to restate the teachings and retell the doings of Jesus of Nazareth, I have drawn freely upon all sources of record and planetary information. My ruling motive has been to prepare a record which will not only be enlightening to the generation of men now living, but which may also be helpful to all future generations. From the vast store of information made available to me, I have chosen that which is best suited to the accomplishment of this purpose. As far as possible I have derived my information from purely human sources. p.1343

So that you have it. The author (or authors) of the Urantia book readily admit that it is based on "purely human sources".

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I thought everyone knew that.....It don't take a genius to smell the devil talking out'n his ass.....People will just believe anything.....like "I'M JUST GONNA PUT THE TIP/HEAD IN."
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Re: The Urantia book was authored by demonic influences, not Yahweh
According to the Ra Material
According to Zetatalk

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give up
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O GOOD I WILL DEFINITELY PLACE MY ORDER OF IT FROM AMAZON

ITS IN MY AMAZON CART READY TO GO !


I was in the Cult of Jehovahs Witnesses for 42 yrs

Being told to bow to Jehovah

I left and studied Crowley and Tarot for 2 yrs
Which I enjoyed
Just understanding what was really happening on the “ evil side”

I am now a Q supporter

And proud of it

I will also gladly order this book


Stop putting your BS beliefs out there

Let us make up our own mind
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Who is Yahweh? He doesn't exist.

It is not the name of the FATHER of the Trinity at all. The urantia book is about the cosmos and the last 3rd about the life of Jesus. I assume you never even opened it up? Or so stuck you could not see past what you "believe".

Love you anyway OP.. you make some nice posts here. You cannot comprehend WHO Jesus was... unless you read it. :Triple Hearts:
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Retard alert!
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Urantia is from another universe that had also been largely distorted, for we all with soul already know the truth of this story and we had also been there.

And Human brain merely handled 0.1% of the total superconscious of the Spirit IQ. So what can one genius do?, access via the subsconscious of the soul, just like a data bank.

Best to leave it in this largely distorted soulless beasts of the earth overrun by axis of evil Zion*** suckers.
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O GOOD I WILL DEFINITELY PLACE MY ORDER OF IT FROM AMAZON

ITS IN MY AMAZON CART READY TO GO !


I was in the Cult of Jehovahs Witnesses for 42 yrs

Being told to bow to Jehovah

I left and studied Crowley and Tarot for 2 yrs
Which I enjoyed
Just understanding what was really happening on the “ evil side”

I am now a Q supporter

And proud of it

I will also gladly order this book


Stop putting your BS beliefs out there

Let us make up our own mind
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It is available for free online as well.

Congratulations for leaving and being free from Jehovah’s Witnesses
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O GOOD I WILL DEFINITELY PLACE MY ORDER OF IT FROM AMAZON

ITS IN MY AMAZON CART READY TO GO !


I was in the Cult of Jehovahs Witnesses for 42 yrs

Being told to bow to Jehovah

I left and studied Crowley and Tarot for 2 yrs
Which I enjoyed
Just understanding what was really happening on the “ evil side”

I am now a Q supporter

And proud of it

I will also gladly order this book


Stop putting your BS beliefs out there

Let us make up our own mind
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It is available for free online as well.

Congratulations for leaving and being free from Jehovah’s Witnesses
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Thank u

Yes many audio versions available too
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"Yahweh" is a phonetic - over time - perversion of Asir
Root Language from Hel, as are most ancient terms of the
Northern hemisphere.

To Ge håva, "Jehova", means to pay taxes, give one's contribution.

But now, even the faintest inkling of memory of what the
Swavelsticka, the sulfur stick, the "swastika", really
represents is rigorously forbidden.
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YAHWEH is FICTION OP... does not exist except maybe as some shit human long ago.
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I sense anger and hostility, my friend. Perhaps your Buddha is not as powerful as you wish it to be.
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The end of Chapter 1 takes balls to state this:
Take it or leave it.

" I am commissioned to sponsor those papers portraying the nature and attributes of God because I represent the highest source of information available for such a purpose on any inhabited world. I have served as a Divine Counselor in all seven of the superuniverses and have long resided at the Paradise center of all things. Many times have I enjoyed the supreme pleasure of a sojourn in the immediate personal presence of the Universal Father. I portray the reality and truth of the Father’s nature and attributes with unchallengeable authority; I know whereof I speak."
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Yahweh is Red Indian language, and I as Osiris Ani, Daniel, John The Baptist, Elijah and Chief Crazy Horse was Red Indian as Son of Man.

As David was half Red and half White Pahana, the same with Lord Jesus and Moses.

This is why redheads are also the descendants of the Moses.

Jud@h and Heb*** got nothing to do with the J** for it is also Red Indian language since word Armageddon is also Red Indian language.

As it is written that I will turn the heart father to the heart of the son and vice versa and inflame them burning like an oven and let them know that they are seedless without root nor branch, before the dreadful day of the Lord.

The days are coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble: and the day will inflame them, says [Enoch] the Lord of hosts, that does not leave root and branch.

But for you who fear [respect] my name, the sun of justice with healing in his wings and go forth and leap like fatted calves.

They will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this, I will.

Remember the law of my servant Moses that I gave him at Horeb for all Israel, the precepts, and judgments.

See, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day.

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with anathema. - Malachi 4:1-6 Vulgate Bible


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Who is Yahweh? He doesn't exist.

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So you say.
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"Yahweh" is a phonetic - over time - perversion of Asir
Root Language from Hel, as are most ancient terms of the
Northern hemisphere.

To Ge håva, "Jehova", means to pay taxes, give one's contribution.

But now, even the faintest inkling of memory of what the
Swavelsticka, the sulfur stick, the "swastika", really
represents is rigorously forbidden.
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By linking this to the English version of IHVH's name, you prove your malicious intent. Jehovah was never IHVH's original name.
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Yah /yhwh is another name for Baal.


You've been fooled by fake ju teachings.
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Acts 4:10-12

King James Version

10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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Yah /yhwh is another name for Baal.

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Correct. Know him by his actions - war, revenge, hate
Same as Baal, Dagon, and the other false gods
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Yah /yhwh is another name for Baal.


You've been fooled by fake ju teachings.
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Bullshit.

They wouldn't have taught fake teachings to themselves, would they?

You have read too much stupidit on the internet. Do you believe everything you find on the net?
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Who is Yahweh? He doesn't exist.

It is not the name of the FATHER of the Trinity at all. The urantia book is about the cosmos and the last 3rd about the life of Jesus. I assume you never even opened it up? Or so stuck you could not see past what you "believe".

Love you anyway OP.. you make some nice posts here. You cannot comprehend WHO Jesus was... unless you read it. :Triple Hearts:
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YAHWEH is FICTION OP... does not exist except maybe as some shit human long ago.
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Again, you are nothing but another downright blasphemers soulless beast of the earth attention slut J** with seven batshit crazy unclean spirits partying inside and shall perish with with the rest of almost 58% mankind along with evildoers.

For you shall also become a FICTION, nothing more and nothing less.

Most people do believe in God. Surveys show that in recent years belief in God has actually increased on our planet.

Yes, I’m happy to say that the largest number of you do believe in Me. So it’s not your belief in Me that creates problems, it’s your belief about Me.

One of the things you believe about Me is that I do not want you to know Me. Some of you even believe that you dare not so much as utter My name. Others feel that you should not write the word “God,” but, out of respect, should write “G-D.” Still others of you say that it’s all right to speak My name, but that it must be My correct name, and that if it’s an incorrect name, you will have committed a blasphemy.

But whether you call Me Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Allah, or Charlie, I am still Who I am, What I am, Where I am, and I will not stop loving you because you got my name wrong, for heaven sake.

So you can stop quarreling over what to call Me.

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OK Charlie.
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in the early 1970's, the Russians were well into pioneering a science called remote viewing, during the cold war the Americans also discovered this science.

applying this science into the espionage sector of the military. remote viewing was discovered to be a form of astral projection where the participant does not leave the body, but directs his or her mind towards the task, drawing or bringing back the information before them.

by the 1980's remote viewing had been perfected to the extent that the received information indeed was a valuable source of knowing, as the viewer was well out of danger of being discovered, and the military could observe what they focused on with out the inherent dangers of extreme locations. they were not confined to what the supports were needed if they sent in a physical person to scout the information.

They remote viewed various ET races and what they were doing here. they viewd outposts in the solar systems many ruins, they used remote viewing as a precursor before taking actions. because it was a repeatable science of methods that could be monitored and got results.

I was researching remote viewing, and had used the science myself confirming that indeed, just like astral projection, one didn't face the fears of loosening from the body, one could see clearly in ones minds eye what one mentally focused on, it works, I don't understand how fully, but when I read that the Military remote viewing had used the URANTIA BOOK, in its tasks to find a planet described in the Book, what they found was .... that Very Planet exactly how it is described.
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I seem to remember Ingo Swann was one person they used for experimenting with remote viewing.
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The Urantia Book and Oahspe
A Comparison by Harold Sherman

In his later years, author Harold Sherman (1898-1987), well known for his association with the Urantia revelation, became a believer in another great revelatory work known as Oahspe. What follows are some of his comments and comparisons, taken from his correspondence between 1964-1984.

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My canvas blocker tells me this link is trying to fingerprint my browser.

Not that it matters much. Without the canvas blocker I wouldn't even have known and besides, many sites are fingerprinting the user's browser.

Even some GLP threads were shown up by my canvas blocker, some time ago.
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Plenty of that to go around.

News Flash

The bible wasn't written by God.
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Oh yes it is:


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How to study the Bible lol.

I'll give you the skinny in a few words.

Scripture is coded in parables. Solve the puzzles get the real answers, which by the way was once part of many of Earth's cultural knowledge that was stolen.

One great example.. the Spanish conquistadors were already aware of the old testament parable about Abraham taking his son up on a mountain to sacrifice him.

This is what the Spanish lied to their king and countrymen aboutt concerning Aztecs and sacrifice.

The world's a mess that way and organized religion isn"t doing a damn thing about it.
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The Spanish did not lie. Cortes and Bernal del Castillo were conscientious, honorable men.

Liar.
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Yah /yhwh is another name for Baal.

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Correct. Know him by his actions - war, revenge, hate
Same as Baal, Dagon, and the other false gods
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Elijah on Mount Carmel

16 So Obadiah went to meet Ahab and told him, and Ahab went to meet Elijah. 17 When he saw Elijah, he said to him, “Is that you, you troubler of lsr@eI?”

18 “I have not made trouble for lsr@eI,” Elijah replied. “But you and your father’s family have. You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baals. 19 Now summon the people from all over lsr@eI to meet me on Mount Carmel. And bring the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah, who eat at Jezebel’s table.”

20 So Ahab sent word throughout all lsr@eI and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.”

But the people said nothing.

22 Then Elijah said to them, “I am the only one of the Lord’s prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the Lord. The god who answers by fire—he is God.”

Then all the people said, “What you say is good.”
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Re: The Urantia book was authored by demonic influences, not Yahweh
Yah /yhwh is another name for Baal.

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Correct. Know him by his actions - war, revenge, hate
Same as Baal, Dagon, and the other false gods
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Elijah on Mount Carmel

16 So Obadiah went to meet Ahab and told him, and Ahab went to meet Elijah. 17 When he saw Elijah, he said to him, “Is that you, you troubler of lsr@eI?”

18 “I have not made trouble for lsr@eI,” Elijah replied. “But you and your father’s family have. You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baals. 19 Now summon the people from all over lsr@eI to meet me on Mount Carmel. And bring the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah, who eat at Jezebel’s table.”

20 So Ahab sent word throughout all lsr@eI and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.”

But the people said nothing.

22 Then Elijah said to them, “I am the only one of the Lord’s prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the Lord. The god who answers by fire—he is God.”

Then all the people said, “What you say is good.”
 Quoting: Dulcius Ex Asperis


25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.” 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it.

Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

30 Then Elijah said to all the people, “Come here to me.” They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the Lord, which had been torn down. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of nopes descended from Jaco6, to whom the word of the Lord had come, saying, “Your name shall be lsr@eI.” 32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs of seed. 33 He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and 1aid it on the wood. Then he said to them, “Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood.”

34 “Do it again,” he said, and they did it again.

“Do it a third time,” he ordered, and they did it the third time. 35 The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.

36 At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and lsr@eI, let it be known today that you are God in lsr@eI and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. 37 Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.”

38 Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, “The Lord—he is God! The Lord—he is God!”

40 Then Elijah commanded them, “Seize the prophets of Baal. Don’t let anyone get away!” They seized them, and Elijah had them brought down to the Kishon Valley and slaughtered there.

(1 Kings 18)





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