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Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?

 
PlaneHerder

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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
The numbers make them a standing army.. They are not in a military uniform making them gorilla soldiers. No protection under the Geneva Convention.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


REALLY?

SHOW ME A LAW STATING THAT?
 Quoting: Nobody Special 4 Now


Well common sense would dictate, if one had common sense.

They have NO MONEY, CAN'T GET A JOB= Ilegal.. Have no place to live... What does this invading army want?? Conquest, they want to invade and take your stuff just as invading hordes have done for centuries..

Molotov cocktails, rocks that have already killed one policeman. BURNING OUR FLAG, brandishing their flag as they chant "We are coming"..

INVASION , and you don't see a problem?????
 Quoting: Loup Garou


I am using logic, I have not seen them do that, to the contrary, many people say they are calm, ordinary people, just depends on which media you are watching. Gaven Stein, has seen them personally, he says its ordinary people trying to find work, etc in USA.

How do you know they have no money?

Are you omnipotent?

You know all?

where did you see them burning our flag?

Who owns the channel that showed the video?

Maybe its all part of a play, a rehearsed false flag to get the masses to join in solidarity against another false flag invasion?
 Quoting: Nobody Special 4 Now


Dude, listen...

The situation is simple cat and mouse. MSM is pumping the "migrant caravan" narrative to stimulate a response favorable to the liberals. Not much success. So, they tweak it a little and now it's a "violent migrant caravan."

Trump responds by sending troops to the border. Right call if it is indeed a violent migrant caravan, aka an invasion force. OP, your concern seems to be rooted in constitutionality of military use because you believe the migrant caravan is peaceful and only seeks asylum.

The situation is simple because of two reasons. 1) Between doing nothing or sending troops, which option has us prepared for either (any) outcome? Sending troops. 2) If the migrant caravan shows up peacefully as you predict do you think our troops will even consider firing a shot!? Fuck no they won't!

I think Trump is calling the MSM leftist bullshit for what it is. I'd put money on this "caravan" never even making it to our border.

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I'd put money on this "caravan" never even making it to our border.
 Quoting: PlaneHerder


Mexico just legalized pot. The "caravan" just got a whole lot slower.
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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
Sorry OP the caravaners have shot and killed Mexican Police and have been found with explosives.

Also there's reason to believe these people are part of a larger plot to abolish the US southern border.
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Sorry OP the caravaners have shot and killed Mexican Police and have been found with explosives.

Also there's reason to believe these people are part of a larger plot to abolish the US southern border.
 Quoting: SagoP


I dont think there has been much of that, Im not impressed with the Mexican police or Govt. But there is zero reason I can see why their police and military would just let a bunch of Central Americans meander through their country building bombs and killing their citizens. Say what you want but Mexico could annihilate Central America within a few weeks if it chose to.
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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
OP is an ISIS operative, and can't prove otherwise.
Lance Roseman From BC

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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
OP, you really haven't researched this very well at all.

H.R 5122 2007 Section 1076

None of this is difficult to research or interpret.
 Quoting: hardscrabble farmer

The 2007 HR5122 Section 1076 amendment didn't provide any relevant authority. Furthermore, that particular amendment to Section 333 of the Insurrection Act was repealed in 2008, making it now void.

The US military may be used to enforce laws when State governments and law enforcement are unable, especially in times of National emergencies.
 Quoting: hardscrabble farmer

The military may only be utilized for domestic law enforcement purposes under certain specific conditions. None of the specified conditions apply to the relevant situation.

A deliberate invasion by thousands of foreign invaders certainly qualifies.
 Quoting: hardscrabble farmer

The position that the approaching group of would-be illegals/refugees are in fact "invaders" participating in an "invasion" is alarmist hyperbolic rhetoric.

According to the Oxford Dictionary, an "invasion" is an "instance of invading a country or region with an armed force" and defines "invade" as "(of an armed force) enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it." The definition provided by Merriam-Webster Dictionary is "an act of invading; especially: incursion of an army for conquest or plunder" and it defines "invade" as "to enter for conquest or plunder."

We're not talking about a military force approaching the American border with intention to wage war against and ultimately to militarily subjugate or occupy the United States. This is either a group of foreign nationals engaged in a criminal conspiracy against the United States, apparently intending to unlawfully gain entry into it, or a group of foreign nations who intend to lawfully request asylum at a port of entry. It's a law enforcement matter involving criminals or refugees, not a military matter involving an army.
 Quoting: Navarro


How about we use our big boy pants dictionary. Black's Law Dictionary, you know the one that Courts use? Not some silly other, little used in Law, dictionaries...since i have one right here...

Invasion. 1 A hostile or forcible encroachment on the Rights of another (have they been violent towards Mexican Authorities...? and do they have jobs awaiting for them if they make it across? If not they will be draining money from YOU).
intentional invasion
A hostile or forcible encroachment on another's interest (ie your country) in the use or enjoyment of property, esp. real property, though not necessarily inspired by malice or ill will (your tax dollars are your property)

2. The incursion of an army for conquest or plunder (give me my free stuff army)

Bold is mine...I left out a bit because it does not relate to the matter at hand.

Now here is the etymology

invasion (n.)
mid-15c., invasioun, "an assault, attack, act of entering a country or territory as an enemy," from Old French invasion "invasion, attack, assaut" (12c.), from Late Latin invasionem (nominative invasio) "an attack, invasion," noun of action from past-participle stem of Latin invadere "to go, come, or get into; enter violently, penetrate into as an enemy, assail, assault, make an attack on," from in- "in" (from PIE root *en "in") + vadere "to go, to walk, go hastily," from PIE root *wadh- (2) "to go" (source also of Old English wadan "to go," Latin vadum "ford;" see wade (v.)).

In extended sense, of diseases, "a harmful incursion of any kind;" with reference to rights, etc., "infringement by intrusion, encroachment by entering into or taking away what belongs to another."

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I think by the REAL definitions, you could call it what it is. A fucking invasion.
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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
OP is an ISIS operative, and can't prove otherwise.
 Quoting: MissCleo


LIES!

I served in US Marines, and swore to uphold our constitution!

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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
OP is an ISIS operative, and can't prove otherwise.
 Quoting: MissCleo


LIES!

I served in US Marines, and swore to uphold our constitution!
 Quoting: Nobody Special 4 Now


Stop paying attention to TrOlLs OP...they don't matter and their attention span and knowledge base is that of a gnat...
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Re: Us Military on US soil for immigrants coming here, Isn't that a Violation of the Constitution? Or Posse Comitatus Act?
I haven't read every post so pardon me if I'm repeating ... but ...

""posse means. A group of people summoned to help law enforcement. A search party. A criminal gang.""

""The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. ""

I've heard many of the cnn/msnBS etc etc pundits claim Trump can/should be IMPEACHED for using the US ARMY on the border - thus VIOLATING POSSE COMITATUS restrictions.

Clearly they are MORONS and don't understand that - as explained above - Posse Comitatus LIMITS the Federal govmt in the use of the military to ENFORCE DOMESTIC policies / laws.

These RETARDS jump from that definition to using the ARMY to secure the borders is an IMPEACHABLE OFFENCE under Posse Comitatus.

FFS what BETTER use of the Army than to defend a nations borders?? Their Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to quash any semblance of common sense or understanding of simple English / definitions!!

The OP is clearly one of those MORONS if he / she thinks that 15,000 "migrants" or "refugees" - as claimed and fully UNvetted demanding to cross the border doesn't constitute a form of invasion. They may not (ALL) be armed but some are. Some carry drugs and those drugs are killing 80,000 Americans a year.

TRY and picture it this OP. A force of humans from somewhere arrives at the border and kills 80,000 troops ON the border. Can you possibly SEE a problem then? Well they're NOT killing OUR troops on our side of the border. They're raping and killing women and children on their side of the border and the dudes bringing drugs into the country aren't killing border guards or the Army. They're killing sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, business people and the homeless druggies. 80,000 A YEAR. Ya not threat there, huh, OP??

Fucking IDIOTS everywhere!!!





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