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I didnt want OP to explain why OP is so mad...whateverjerkit
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Thanks for that really valuable contribution to the tread.
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Nah voting is for voters. How are you going to be mad at someone for not participating in your scam the way you want them to.
Real Libertarians didn't vote, I can say with some certainty...
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You think that President Trump is a scammer? Please, explain.
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You're gonna have a bad time trying to accelerate my opinion. I love Donald Trump but I'd be lying if I said he won the election in a conventional manner. Although he did take it away from thieving voters... [hint hint]
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Then good for you, red karma coward. Listen, why haven't you defended the Libertarian Party's plank on borders? Ad-hominems are not an argument.
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Not my job. You wanted a stage? The hall is rented, the musicians paid, now it's time to see if you can dance Mon Capitan.
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Jesus, I've been dancing all over your weak ass. Now, defend the libertarian's plank that calls for open borders. If you are not a real libertarian then just admit it. FFS, just be honest.
 Quoting: aquanet


I don't have to defend them, that's the beauty of it, because I DON'T FUCKING AGREE WITH IT or didn't you catch that part, ya' dummy.
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Then you are either not a libertarian or you are too dumb to understand that open borders negates all the other planks in the libertarian platform because, and I'll say it again, you can't have a 1st world country with a 3rd world population. Can your tiny intellect grasp that concept?

BTW, your pin (if you did pin) gave me two green after your 1 red. So, good for you.

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OP your definition of Libertarians is a shill induced dead wrong strawman working in a china-apple factory.

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OP your definition of Libertarians is a shill induced dead wrong strawman working in an china-apple factory.

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Then explain this.

3.4 Free Trade and Migration

"We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."

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Not my job. You wanted a stage? The hall is rented, the musicians paid, now it's time to see if you can dance Mon Capitan.
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Jesus, I've been dancing all over your weak ass. Now, defend the libertarian's plank that calls for open borders. If you are not a real libertarian then just admit it. FFS, just be honest.
 Quoting: aquanet


I don't have to defend them, that's the beauty of it, because I DON'T FUCKING AGREE WITH IT or didn't you catch that part, ya' dummy.
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Then you are either not a libertarian or you are too dumb to understand that open borders negates all the other planks in the libertarian platform because, and I'll say it again, you can't have a 1st world country with a 3rd world population. Can your tiny intellect grasp that concept?

BTW, your pin (if you did pin) gave me two green after your 1 red. So, good for you.
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And it cost me ten green to do it, do you actually STILL think I gave you red or even care about karma? THINK ABOUT IT.
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You're welcome! Also, if you want to change the constitution by executive order, especially anything that has to do with citizenship, WE WILL CONSIDER THAT AN ACT OF TREASON AND WAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND COME AT YOU SO HARD YOU WONT BE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM IT FOR A CENTURY.
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You're welcome! Also, if you want to change the constitution by executive order, especially anything that has to do with citizenship, WE WILL CONSIDER THAT AN ACT OF TREASON AND WAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND COME AT YOU SO HARD YOU WONT BE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM IT FOR A CENTURY.
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^^ that's a libertarian.
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OP your definition of Libertarians is a shill induced dead wrong strawman working in a china-apple factory.

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Is that a fake site? What? If that is not the libertarian plank then I'll admit I am wrong. If it is a libertarian party plank then defend it.

You libertarians are not looking good here with your ad- hominem/ non-sense replies.
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OP your definition of Libertarians is a shill induced dead wrong strawman working in an china-apple factory.

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Then explain this.

3.4 Free Trade and Migration

"We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."

[link to www.lp.org (secure)]
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To think that all Libertarians share the same views on gray areas is stark ignorance. Im not here to tell you that it's a flawless political ideology. Im just here to ask you why you're so mad at what others believe. I aint even mad at you bro.
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Sucking away votes from Republicans all over the country. Haven't you self-absorbed assholes heard that we are in a fight to save the country?

Montana;Senate race
Tester 49.35% D
Rosendale 47.77% R
Breckenridge 2.87% Libertarian

West Virginia;Senate race
Manchin 49.55 D
Morrisey 46.3% R
Hollen 4.16% Libertarian

New Mexico;
Absolute idiot Gary Johnson libertarian 15.47% Senate race
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if you cared anything about the country you would be libertarian too.

D and R and just two sides of the same coin.
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I don't vote but I could see myself voting Libertarian in a more healthy system. Ds and Rs must be destroyed.
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Jesus, I've been dancing all over your weak ass. Now, defend the libertarian's plank that calls for open borders. If you are not a real libertarian then just admit it. FFS, just be honest.
 Quoting: aquanet


I don't have to defend them, that's the beauty of it, because I DON'T FUCKING AGREE WITH IT or didn't you catch that part, ya' dummy.
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Then you are either not a libertarian or you are too dumb to understand that open borders negates all the other planks in the libertarian platform because, and I'll say it again, you can't have a 1st world country with a 3rd world population. Can your tiny intellect grasp that concept?

BTW, your pin (if you did pin) gave me two green after your 1 red. So, good for you.
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And it cost me ten green to do it, do you actually STILL think I gave you red or even care about karma? THINK ABOUT IT.
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Yeah, you gave me red. Immediately after your post there was red. Your rsponse also givesyou away. And your pin is probably an attempt to divert attention away from you. Nice try, though. And , NO, I don't care about karma. I don't like small, sneaking rat people who give red anonymously.
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OP your definition of Libertarians is a shill induced dead wrong strawman working in an china-apple factory.

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Then explain this.

3.4 Free Trade and Migration

"We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."

[link to www.lp.org (secure)]
 Quoting: aquanet
To think that all Libertarians share the same views on gray areas is stark ignorance. Im not here to tell you that it's a flawless political ideology. Im just here to ask you why you're so mad at what others believe. I aint even mad at you bro.
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You think that open borders is a "gray" area? Jesus Christ. IT is THEE issue. It changes everything. How fucking clueless can you be? I'm not mad at you. I'm dumb-stuck at the stupidity.
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Sucking away votes from Republicans all over the country. Haven't you self-absorbed assholes heard that we are in a fight to save the country?

Montana;Senate race
Tester 49.35% D
Rosendale 47.77% R
Breckenridge 2.87% Libertarian

West Virginia;Senate race
Manchin 49.55 D
Morrisey 46.3% R
Hollen 4.16% Libertarian

New Mexico;
Absolute idiot Gary Johnson libertarian 15.47% Senate race
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if you cared anything about the country you would be libertarian too.

D and R and just two sides of the same coin.
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That's just sad.

Libertarians, whom I often vote for, are the edge of the same dang coin.
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I don't have to defend them, that's the beauty of it, because I DON'T FUCKING AGREE WITH IT or didn't you catch that part, ya' dummy.
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Then you are either not a libertarian or you are too dumb to understand that open borders negates all the other planks in the libertarian platform because, and I'll say it again, you can't have a 1st world country with a 3rd world population. Can your tiny intellect grasp that concept?

BTW, your pin (if you did pin) gave me two green after your 1 red. So, good for you.
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And it cost me ten green to do it, do you actually STILL think I gave you red or even care about karma? THINK ABOUT IT.
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Yeah, you gave me red. Immediately after your post there was red. Your rsponse also givesyou away. And your pin is probably an attempt to divert attention away from you. Nice try, though. And , NO, I don't care about karma. I don't like small, sneaking rat people who give red anonymously.
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Get raked.
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Then you are either not a libertarian or you are too dumb to understand that open borders negates all the other planks in the libertarian platform because, and I'll say it again, you can't have a 1st world country with a 3rd world population. Can your tiny intellect grasp that concept?

BTW, your pin (if you did pin) gave me two green after your 1 red. So, good for you.
 Quoting: aquanet


And it cost me ten green to do it, do you actually STILL think I gave you red or even care about karma? THINK ABOUT IT.
 Quoting: Doom Monkey


Yeah, you gave me red. Immediately after your post there was red. Your rsponse also givesyou away. And your pin is probably an attempt to divert attention away from you. Nice try, though. And , NO, I don't care about karma. I don't like small, sneaking rat people who give red anonymously.
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Get raked.
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When did I say that you didn't pin this? I SAID you are probably trying to cover your ass. You gave me red. Admit it. This is really getting sad, monkey man.

Now, how do you explain the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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And it cost me ten green to do it, do you actually STILL think I gave you red or even care about karma? THINK ABOUT IT.
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Yeah, you gave me red. Immediately after your post there was red. Your rsponse also givesyou away. And your pin is probably an attempt to divert attention away from you. Nice try, though. And , NO, I don't care about karma. I don't like small, sneaking rat people who give red anonymously.
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Get raked.
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When did I say that you didn't pin this? I SAID you are probably trying to cover your ass. You gave me red. Admit it. This is really getting sad, monkey man.

Now, how do you explain the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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Look down, idjit, there's all the karma I gave for the day, Guess what, YOURS isn't red, and if you have any more, well understand that you earned it. OWN IT. It's yours.
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Sucking away votes from Republicans all over the country. Haven't you self-absorbed assholes heard that we are in a fight to save the country?

Montana;Senate race
Tester 49.35% D
Rosendale 47.77% R
Breckenridge 2.87% Libertarian

West Virginia;Senate race
Manchin 49.55 D
Morrisey 46.3% R
Hollen 4.16% Libertarian

New Mexico;
Absolute idiot Gary Johnson libertarian 15.47% Senate race
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Your welcome aquanet. I kind of like magenta that was voted in. It keeps things at a leisurely pace.
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And it cost me ten green to do it, do you actually STILL think I gave you red or even care about karma? THINK ABOUT IT.
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Yeah, you gave me red. Immediately after your post there was red. Your rsponse also givesyou away. And your pin is probably an attempt to divert attention away from you. Nice try, though. And , NO, I don't care about karma. I don't like small, sneaking rat people who give red anonymously.
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Get raked.
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When did I say that you didn't pin this? I SAID you are probably trying to cover your ass. You gave me red. Admit it. This is really getting sad, monkey man.

Now, how do you explain the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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Go back and review my posts, when did I ever state that *I* was for open borders? I didn't, quite the opposite I said I'm an ANCAP Libertarian that wants to build the fucking wall, and believe me there's a pile of money to be made building it.

Why would I defend anything I don't agree with, it's not my job. You work, You eat, You reap, you sow. CLASS DISMISSED.
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Libertarians like me, believe in small government. Your problem seems to be with open borders. Understand that some of the problems are a symptom of the lack of local resiliency and self reliant governance.

Why does Massachusetts get to have such a small state?

California, should be split up into smaller states with more local control. In that context, nobody wants to stop commerce between the areas, or other countries, it's just about more local control.

There is no reason legally that we can't have more States.
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Yeah, you gave me red. Immediately after your post there was red. Your rsponse also givesyou away. And your pin is probably an attempt to divert attention away from you. Nice try, though. And , NO, I don't care about karma. I don't like small, sneaking rat people who give red anonymously.
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Get raked.
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When did I say that you didn't pin this? I SAID you are probably trying to cover your ass. You gave me red. Admit it. This is really getting sad, monkey man.

Now, how do you explain the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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Go back and review my posts, when did I ever state that *I* was for open borders? I didn't, quite the opposite I said I'm an ANCAP Libertarian that wants to build the fucking wall, and believe me there's a pile of money to be made building it.

Why would I defend anything I don't agree with, it's not my job. You work, You eat, You reap, you sow. CLASS DISMISSED.
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Are you not a libertarian or are you posting all this because you are mentally defective?

Defend the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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Libertarians like me, believe in small government. Your problem seems to be with open borders. Understand that some of the problems are a symptom of the lack of local resiliency and self reliant governance.

Why does Massachusetts get to have such a small state?

California, should be split up into smaller states with more local control. In that context, nobody wants to stop commerce between the areas, or other countries, it's just about more local control.

There is no reason legally that we can't have more States.
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So, all that will make-up for open borders? You libertarians don't understand for which racial group this country was designed.
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AS a resident of New Mexico I would like to say, FUCK YOU GARY JOHNSON.
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When did I say that you didn't pin this? I SAID you are probably trying to cover your ass. You gave me red. Admit it. This is really getting sad, monkey man.

Now, how do you explain the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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Go back and review my posts, when did I ever state that *I* was for open borders? I didn't, quite the opposite I said I'm an ANCAP Libertarian that wants to build the fucking wall, and believe me there's a pile of money to be made building it.

Why would I defend anything I don't agree with, it's not my job. You work, You eat, You reap, you sow. CLASS DISMISSED.
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Are you not a libertarian or are you posting all this because you are mentally defective?

Defend the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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You know, you've changed my mind, you're too dumb to be stupid.

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When did I say that you didn't pin this? I SAID you are probably trying to cover your ass. You gave me red. Admit it. This is really getting sad, monkey man.

Now, how do you explain the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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Go back and review my posts, when did I ever state that *I* was for open borders? I didn't, quite the opposite I said I'm an ANCAP Libertarian that wants to build the fucking wall, and believe me there's a pile of money to be made building it.

Why would I defend anything I don't agree with, it's not my job. You work, You eat, You reap, you sow. CLASS DISMISSED.
 Quoting: Doom Monkey


Are you not a libertarian or are you posting all this because you are mentally defective?

Defend the libertarian plank that supports open borders when open borders destroys all the other planks. Unless you think that millions of uneducated, low IQ mestizos/Indian parasites are libertarian material.
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You know, you've changed my mind, you're too dumb to be stupid.

glpaward
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Nothing from you but ad hominem. You are weak.
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Libertarians like me, believe in small government. Your problem seems to be with open borders. Understand that some of the problems are a symptom of the lack of local resiliency and self reliant governance.

Why does Massachusetts get to have such a small state?

California, should be split up into smaller states with more local control. In that context, nobody wants to stop commerce between the areas, or other countries, it's just about more local control.

There is no reason legally that we can't have more States.
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So, all that will make-up for open borders? You libertarians don't understand for which racial group this country was designed.
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If you go to a place like Basel, you can have breakfast, lunch, and dinner, in three countries within walking distance.

Borders are just lines on a map, it's the power to enforce that matters. Trump wants to build a wall at the souther border, but what about the Chinese buying our ports under Obama?

"According to financial analyst David Sterman in an August 2 article, the Chinese invested a record $3.6 billion in U.S. properties and businesses over the first six months of 2012. Among their purchases were prime real estate in New York City, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Four of the most populous and productive states—California, Virginia, Texas and New York—have been their primary focus. Of these investments, Chinese companies did 73% while the remaining 27% was done directly by the government.

Particularly disturbing is the targeting of America’s infrastructure. In addition to already owning vital ports in Long Beach, California and Boston, Massachusetts, the China Ocean Shipping Company is eyeing major ports on the East Coast and Gulf of Mexico. China also owns access to ports at the entry and exit points of the Panama Canal."

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LMFAO @ On the brink of losing the country.

This fucking place has been lost ever since the Federal Reserve was created and the gold standard was dropped. The only way we're getting it back is by spilling blood, not through the corrupted election/voting process.

Keep living in fantasy land where your vote matters and eventually, emphasis on that word eventually, things might get better.

Politics reminds me of Call of Duty, you know, that shitty game Activision makes every year. People bitch about how the current one sucks and say they can't wait until next year because the new one is going to kick ass; yet it never does and people will still buy the shit out of it. Thus, the cycle never ends.

It's the same shit with politics. You all bitch, you vote, yet nothing ever changes. You believe the shit they say, the lies they sell you to get your vote, every election it's the same shit - the definition of insanity.

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New Mexico;
Absolute idiot Gary Johnson libertarian 15.47% Senate race
 Quoting: aquanet


What's a leppo?
 Quoting: SamReed


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Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God

Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me





GLP