GLP. It's time to really talk about this because it's coming to everyone. Red Flag Laws

TRUE, but usually after initial conflict....THERE’S a chance for PEACEFUL NEGOTIATIONS

You can't change their ideology. You're wasting your time trying.

The proponents of the Red Flag Laws are NOT interested in peace here. This isn't a Neville Chamberlain thing here. This is tantamount to adding fuel to civil war. Period. There should be NO negotiating. To negotiate is to acquiesce by default.

That is not an option.

Body shaming ain't cool dog.

through due legal process?

perhaps you dont realize innocent until proven guilty
perhaps you dont realize the right to life liberty and property

perhaps you dont realize this was illegal seizure without probable cause
perhaps you dont realize right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
perhaps you dont realize the right to face your accuser.

perhaps you dont have any clue about legal due process at all.

guns were given to you so you would shout out your selfs...
out....
if a handling of a gun is the only thing you know about...
you have serious issues...

I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.



That is all for now. Stay frosty.

I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.



That is all for now. Stay frosty.

On the contrary my Croatian friend, the very reason why are a nation based in self-defense and not wholly 100 govt trust, is to prevent such tyranny from running openly rampant. It's also designed to keep govt in check. You don't have like our Constitution. Our Rights. It's our inherit right to be armed and to be able to defend ourselves, loved ones, property, and overall livelihood. You should have that too, but your country's laws are different than mine and I will not bag on that. It's not place to and I do not care to.

Never allow yourself to become a victim. To be enslaved. Our country's forefathers knew the score and also knew how fragile a Constitutional Republic would be. America was NEVER suppose to be a Democracy. That's mob-rule.

The right to self-governing is both easy as it is delicate, but like with all things, situations changes. Thoughts and Ideas evolve and the old ways of things are cast aside in favor the new.

Voila! Brave New World.

I don't have a serious issue my friend. I don't own an armory like other folks can afford to do. It is what it is and I am grateful for what I possess. I happen to take my rights very seriously. We have such rights for a reason and thus, it should not be taken for granted.

On the flipside, there are the many in power, both seen and unseen, that do not share these thoughts like me. Nor do they care for such titles as "inalienable rights". Theirs is the notion and preponderances of globalism, total and absolute equality without challenge in an unbalanced world that seeks to subjugate rather than educate rightly. They seek control absolutely and aspires to have a carefully controlled number of the masses as both their thralls and playthings to do their bidding all the while, not caring how their subjects feel. Most of all, they see themselves as above the law. If it means to hurt you without consequence in whatever manner they deem necessary to achieve their goals without having to be held accountable to the law of land, so be it for them.

So, yes I do highly favor my firearms and freedom of thought to counter their ill-conceived desires. Period.

Better to stand one's ground than grovel and be fed kibble.

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The record is clear, a free people only remain free when they are able to defend themselves from tyrants.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million jewish people and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million
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through due legal process?

perhaps you dont realize innocent until proven guilty
perhaps you dont realize the right to life liberty and property

perhaps you dont realize this was illegal seizure without probable cause
perhaps you dont realize right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
perhaps you dont realize the right to face your accuser.

perhaps you dont have any clue about legal due process at all.

I don't agree with this Pre-Crime ideology. I don't agree with how ANYONE can file a complaint to a sitting Judge and then have your #2A stripped for a minimum of one year and then be reviewed and potentially stripped indefinitely. Understand the underlying point here. You can be tried without DUE PROCESS. Zero defense. Surrender your firearms or else.

Maryland's Red Flag Law that is hailed to be a success has already claimed the life one man. We don't even know WHY the petition was filed, but we do know this much, the man spoke his mind and that my fellow GLPers is why a member of his OWN FAMILY filed suit against him without his knowledge. The cops showed up at his home at 0500hrs. He answered the door with his gun in hand, for this I have no reckoning, he set his pistol down. Heard what the cops had to say. They attempted to take his gun. He grabbed it. A melee ensued. his firearm discharged, the supporting cop shot the man. He died on site at his home. His niece testified that none of this was even necessary.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

Oregon has gone straight communist on this too. Unless there really is a silent majority of #2A supporters in Oregon, that State is overrun with total disarmament insanity.

[link to revolutionradio.org]

I do not know where many swing on this topic, but for those of you that are #2A like me, this warrants your attention in terms of awareness. Think about that. To those of you that are either anti-#2A or simply afraid of guns, think about this. The police are not mandated to protect you, they will protect their own before they opt to lay down their life for you.

Chew on this for a bit.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

[link to www.firearmsandliberty.com (secure)]

Understand this much, it's not a complex situation here. Only the Office of the Sheriff is mandated to go above and beyond. They have the flexibility to do so. Also, the most important aspects of the Office of the Sheriff is their accountability to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Combine what you know here and what you all will discover through independent investigation and you will find a very bad fight fixin' to happen here. Many sheriff's offices will not go along with this Red Flag Law. It's un-Constitutional.

Talk to your local Sheriff's Offices on the matter and see where they stand on this. Otherwise, expect people to die over this felonious "law" and see retaliation come both politically and physically.

The Left is playing their hands in the clear. Get hip to this and educate others. Stand ready.



That is all for now. Stay frosty.

In my area the police officers must take an oath...

"On my honor, I will never betray my badge, my integrity, my character or the public trust. I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions. I will always uphold the Constitution, my community, and the agency I serve."

What has some old guy who is obviously too senile to safely handle a firearm got to do with a well regulated militia?

Was he well regulated? He can't even follow direct orders from a superior authority (the police)

Whatever law they have to change they have to get guns out of the hands of senile confused old people. Change it. I live with senile confused old people with guns and its not good for the ones with the guns or the ones who have to live in fear of shots tearing through the walls.

If they want to round up Antifa and exterminate them, or come guillotine me (I want the same one they used on great grandmother) for being a medical marijuana patient, at least they would be showing some signs of being an actual government instead of a group of stupid assholes that only keeps a mob around to shake it down occasionally for beer money.

OK, lets step back a minute and think about it this way. Once a Red Flag Seizure order is approved by a judge, that judge has just legally said that the intended person is mentally unstable.

The police who are dispatched to confiscate this persons guns are approaching this like their intended target is mentally unstable. Thus they will not simply knock on the door and ask. They will also not send a letter in advance warning that they will be showing up sometimes in the next 48 hours to confiscate.

So the intended target of the Red Flag order is laying in bed asleep. At 2am in the morning, his front door is kicked in and a flash bang grenade goes off. He does what any person would do which is to open fire upon his attackers. By the time he realizes its LEO's on a perfectly legitimate warrant, many people are dead or dying, some of which will be the police offices themselves.

If the man is still alive, and not shot, he is arrested and arraigned in court. What is the charge, what is the defense?

I believe the charges will be dropped because of the way the raid was conducted. At the very least, the charges will be dismissed because the person has already been determined to be mentally unstable.

These Red Flag Laws will only end up getting a lot of people killed, many of which will be the law enforcement officers conducting the raid.

old men have no rights?
At what age do we loose all of our rights?

Truth is truth. Is there shame in truth? Only for libtards.