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Just In... CIA concludes KSA Crown Prince ordered Khashoggi's death

 
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Journalists are killed all the time by dictatorships and yet this particular journalist is somehow more important than the rest?
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Thread: Khashoggi was about to rat on SA for using chemical weapons
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So the CIA leaks it to the Washington Post and RT covers the story! Hmmmmmm! Sounds legit!dcomp
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Which CIA?

The one that hates America and the President and wants to start a war?

Because I do not trust them to make a fair decision.

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CIA=deepstate. Thats really all you need to know about that. They are trying to overthrow the crown prince because he,s working with trump and against the deepstate...
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CIA=deepstate. Thats really all you need to know about that. They are trying to overthrow the crown prince because he,s working with trump and against the deepstate...
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hesright
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The Crown Prince can do whatever the hell he wants. There's no reason to care about this America hating journalist, honestly there isn't. Anyone who falls for this needs to realize that they're being played like a fiddle by thought control journalism.

You only care because some asshole journalist told you to care.

MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
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Of course! It is what they do!
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MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? chuckle



Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins

One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times.

“Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.”

He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia.

“The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?”

[link to english.alarabiya.net]

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MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? chuckle



Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins

One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times.

“Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.”

He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia.

“The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?”

[link to english.alarabiya.net]
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


hahahha. yeah MBS is a great guy.
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Once and if when, the media reports on this, the enemy of the people, we will have better knowledge of what we should be thinking.
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Sorry, but we have strategic bases in Saudi Arabia. Cut them off and just watch how quickly they go over to Iran and Russia's side, which won't be good for us. I do think that the Saudi royal family is despicable, however dropping them would have geopolitical consequences for us. So let's keep the relationship. Journalists are killed all the time by dictatorships and yet this particular journalist is somehow more important than the rest?
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which won't be good for Israel.
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Once and if when, the media reports on this, the enemy of the people, we will have better knowledge of what we should be thinking.
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Heard it on ABC News tonight. They actually said they didn't know if it was true or not!
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From the article linked in the OP:

according to a Washington Post report which cites anonymous sources.
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And there we have it. Propaganda.
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MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? chuckle



Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins

One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times.

“Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.”

He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia.

“The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?”

[link to english.alarabiya.net]
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


Bin Salman is against Wahhabism. Al Waleed and his ilk are the Wahhabists. You have your Saudis mixed up.

Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other. This is the polar opposite of the Wahhabists
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The Crown Prince can do whatever the hell he wants. There's no reason to care about this America hating journalist, honestly there isn't. Anyone who falls for this needs to realize that they're being played like a fiddle by thought control journalism.

You only care because some asshole journalist told you to care.

MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Agree. Who the fuck cares about this guy getting whacked. There are dozens of people getting whacked for political reasons around the world everyday. Hell, The dems whacked Seth Rich not too long ago right here in the good ol' U.S.A.
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The Crown Prince can do whatever the hell he wants. There's no reason to care about this America hating journalist, honestly there isn't. Anyone who falls for this needs to realize that they're being played like a fiddle by thought control journalism.

You only care because some asshole journalist told you to care.

MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Agree. Who the fuck cares about this guy getting whacked. There are dozens of people getting whacked for political reasons around the world everyday. Hell, The dems whacked Seth Rich not too long ago right here in the good ol' U.S.A.
 Quoting: 4doggies


And the same motherfuckers did it that killed Vince Foster. I think we need to pull the plank out of our own eye before we worry about the speck (or relatively plank sized speck) in their eye.
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So, who can raise the dead these days?
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MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? chuckle



Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins

One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times.

“Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.”

He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia.

“The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?”

[link to english.alarabiya.net]
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


Bin Salman is against Wahhabism. Al Waleed and his ilk are the Wahhabists. You have your Saudis mixed up.

Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other. This is the polar opposite of the Wahhabists
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77116472


Are you speaking for the House of Saud or Islam, or are you a Muslim?
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So, who can raise the dead these days?
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Now you know what's in that stupid black box in Mecca. It's a Resurrection Machine.
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MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? chuckle



Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins

One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times.

“Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.”

He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia.

“The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?”

[link to english.alarabiya.net]
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77116472


Bin Salman also said he hopes to restore Islam to its idyllic, tolerant and peace-loving origins. If that alone isn't enough to make you realize that you're being deceived then you cannot be helped.
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Getting closer to Wahabi wipe out. Shia induced.
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Saudi Arabia goes bye bye.
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MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince.
 Quoting: Calvary2


Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? chuckle



Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins

One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times.

“Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.”

He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia.

“The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?”

[link to english.alarabiya.net]
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77116472


Bin Salman also said he hopes to restore Islam to its idyllic, tolerant and peace-loving origins. If that alone isn't enough to make you realize that you're being deceived then you cannot be helped.
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


yeah, let's believe him and forget that he's slaughtering Christians all over the region and has a genocide going on in Yemen.

Oh an 911.

Islam will never consider non-Muslims as equals, they will always be subjected to jizya.

Islam was never peace loving in origin. Mohammed was a warrior.

Western thinking is clouded by pluralism that believes that all men are created equal and everyone loves everyone. That's just not the case.

2030 Vision Plan (a Saudi creation) = Mecca is the CAPITOL of Asia, Africa and EU. That means that all those populations will be 100% Muslims... convert or die.
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Getting closer to Wahabi wipe out. Shia induced.
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They won't lay down and surrender. These people who live by the sword.
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Don't care. Who thought the cia would conclude any differently. True or not, I don't care.

Not a US citizen, didn't happen on our soil and for those two reasons we should keep out of it. Everyone knows SA "takes care" of their dissidents.

If anyone has a beef with this it would be Turkey since it happened in Turkey. Let them duke it out with the Sauds. Not our business.
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Not our circus, not our monkeys....
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CIA=deepstate. Thats really all you need to know about that. They are trying to overthrow the crown prince because he,s working with trump and against the deepstate...
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hesright
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Makes the most sense honestly
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Yeah, turn on the ignore button.
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Not our circus, not our monkeys....
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So when Trump says Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people and he then says it is the duty of the US to punish Assad with military intervention, that's perfectly ok?

But when it comes to a murdered US resident in Khashoggi who was about to reveal Saudi involvement in chemical weapon use in Yemen it is suddenly "not our circus, not our monkeys". Got it.
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First: Khashoggi was apparently a rogue intelligence agent. Frankly, rogue agents are executed all the time--by the Americans, British, Russians, Chinese, etc. No one bats an eyelash. Local law enforcement is sternly told to report it as a suicide, an accident, a botched robbery, or whatever; and the press is just as sternly told to swallow the cover story and not ask questions.

Second: The CIA is, quite simply, a team of professional liars. Why in the world would anyone believe a thing that the CIA says?

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First: Khashoggi was apparently a rogue intelligence agent. Frankly, rogue agents are executed all the time--by the Americans, British, Russians, Chinese, etc. No one bats an eyelash. Local law enforcement is sternly told to report it as a suicide, an accident, a botched robbery, or whatever; and the press is just as sternly told to swallow the cover story and not ask questions.

Second: The CIA is, quite simply, a team of professional liars. Why in the world would anyone believe a thing that the CIA says?
 Quoting: BeSkeptical


I dont think he was a spy

whatever he was he was trying to help people

perhaps he started off one way and ended up better

not sure all I know is that to me he didnt seem like what you are implying

if you remove the crown prince ...worse militants will pop up all over the place in saudi

careful what you do

God is the final judge

Clearly hurting people like this is wrong and vile...but it is finished now and he is in the spirit world

it pains me to think how hard it is for his family and sons...they dont even have a body to bury

I pray they stay strong and understand he is in the spirit world and there is no pain there . I pray the family finds peace





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