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NewGeneration2019
User ID: 77108930 United Kingdom 11/16/2018 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Journalists are killed all the time by dictatorships and yet this particular journalist is somehow more important than the rest? Quoting: Fight The Power Thread: Khashoggi was about to rat on SA for using chemical weapons |
bigD111
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Fantasia II
Koo Koo Ka Choo User ID: 77105817 United States 11/16/2018 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which CIA? Quoting: 1guynAz The one that hates America and the President and wants to start a war? Because I do not trust them to make a fair decision. ========= "...asking where the body is -- and is skeptical." I would be too! Exactly! George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace... "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied." Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!! |
refraktor
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bigD111
User ID: 65945302 United States 11/16/2018 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Crown Prince can do whatever the hell he wants. There's no reason to care about this America hating journalist, honestly there isn't. Anyone who falls for this needs to realize that they're being played like a fiddle by thought control journalism. Quoting: Calvary2 You only care because some asshole journalist told you to care. MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Of course! It is what they do! deplorably republican |
NewGeneration2019
User ID: 77108930 United Kingdom 11/16/2018 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Quoting: Calvary2 Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times. “Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.” He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia. “The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?” [link to english.alarabiya.net] Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 11/16/2018 08:04 PM |
MissCleo
User ID: 76541118 United States 11/16/2018 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Quoting: Calvary2 Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times. “Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.” He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia. “The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?” [link to english.alarabiya.net] hahahha. yeah MBS is a great guy. |
MrCoolone
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423614 United States 11/16/2018 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but we have strategic bases in Saudi Arabia. Cut them off and just watch how quickly they go over to Iran and Russia's side, which won't be good for us. I do think that the Saudi royal family is despicable, however dropping them would have geopolitical consequences for us. So let's keep the relationship. Journalists are killed all the time by dictatorships and yet this particular journalist is somehow more important than the rest? Quoting: Fight The Power which won't be good for Israel. |
bigD111
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Hobo Babylon
User ID: 76384961 United States 11/16/2018 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article linked in the OP: Quoting: Where Eagles Fly according to a Washington Post report which cites anonymous sources. And there we have it. Propaganda. Unfortunately the @washingtonpost did not print our full response. This is a serious accusation and should not be left to anonymous sources. Our full response was the following: [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77116472 United States 11/16/2018 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Quoting: Calvary2 Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times. “Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.” He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia. “The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?” [link to english.alarabiya.net] Bin Salman is against Wahhabism. Al Waleed and his ilk are the Wahhabists. You have your Saudis mixed up. Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other. This is the polar opposite of the Wahhabists |
4doggies
User ID: 76462481 United States 11/16/2018 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Crown Prince can do whatever the hell he wants. There's no reason to care about this America hating journalist, honestly there isn't. Anyone who falls for this needs to realize that they're being played like a fiddle by thought control journalism. Quoting: Calvary2 You only care because some asshole journalist told you to care. MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Agree. Who the fuck cares about this guy getting whacked. There are dozens of people getting whacked for political reasons around the world everyday. Hell, The dems whacked Seth Rich not too long ago right here in the good ol' U.S.A. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76580065 United States 11/16/2018 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Crown Prince can do whatever the hell he wants. There's no reason to care about this America hating journalist, honestly there isn't. Anyone who falls for this needs to realize that they're being played like a fiddle by thought control journalism. Quoting: Calvary2 You only care because some asshole journalist told you to care. MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Agree. Who the fuck cares about this guy getting whacked. There are dozens of people getting whacked for political reasons around the world everyday. Hell, The dems whacked Seth Rich not too long ago right here in the good ol' U.S.A. And the same motherfuckers did it that killed Vince Foster. I think we need to pull the plank out of our own eye before we worry about the speck (or relatively plank sized speck) in their eye. |
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MissCleo
User ID: 76541118 United States 11/16/2018 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Quoting: Calvary2 Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times. “Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.” He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia. “The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?” [link to english.alarabiya.net] Bin Salman is against Wahhabism. Al Waleed and his ilk are the Wahhabists. You have your Saudis mixed up. Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other. This is the polar opposite of the Wahhabists Are you speaking for the House of Saud or Islam, or are you a Muslim? |
MissCleo
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NewGeneration2019
User ID: 77108930 United Kingdom 11/16/2018 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Quoting: Calvary2 Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times. “Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.” He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia. “The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?” [link to english.alarabiya.net] Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other. Bin Salman also said he hopes to restore Islam to its idyllic, tolerant and peace-loving origins. If that alone isn't enough to make you realize that you're being deceived then you cannot be helped. |
Simkins1050
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Simkins1050
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MissCleo
User ID: 76541118 United States 11/16/2018 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MBS is one of the rare allies the US has, so far as dictators go he's a good one. Saudi Arabia will prosper under him and it will bring peace to the region, hence the reason the same people who hate Trump want you to hate the Crown Prince. Quoting: Calvary2 Oh yeah, Trump is an ally of the Crown Prince so we must now appreciate what a good dictator and peaceful Islamist the Crown Prince is, isn't that right? Mohammed bin Salman: Not reinterpreting Islam, but restoring it to its origins One of the more fundamental subject he tackled was that of the interpretation of Islam, which has been a matter of debate in recent times. “Do not write that we are ‘reinterpreting’ Islam — we are ‘restoring’ Islam to its origins — and our biggest tools are the Prophet’s practices and [daily life in] Saudi Arabia before 1979.” He said that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, there were musical theaters, there was mixing between men and women, there was respect for Christians and Jews in Arabia. “The first commercial judge in Medina was a woman!” So if the Prophet embraced all of this, Mohammed bin Salman asked, “Do you mean the Prophet was not a Muslim?” [link to english.alarabiya.net] Bin Salman's main goal is to make Saudi Arabia a place where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live peacefully alongside each other. Bin Salman also said he hopes to restore Islam to its idyllic, tolerant and peace-loving origins. If that alone isn't enough to make you realize that you're being deceived then you cannot be helped. yeah, let's believe him and forget that he's slaughtering Christians all over the region and has a genocide going on in Yemen. Oh an 911. Islam will never consider non-Muslims as equals, they will always be subjected to jizya. Islam was never peace loving in origin. Mohammed was a warrior. Western thinking is clouded by pluralism that believes that all men are created equal and everyone loves everyone. That's just not the case. 2030 Vision Plan (a Saudi creation) = Mecca is the CAPITOL of Asia, Africa and EU. That means that all those populations will be 100% Muslims... convert or die. |
MissCleo
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Nonfeminazi
User ID: 77084178 United States 11/16/2018 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't care. Who thought the cia would conclude any differently. True or not, I don't care. Not a US citizen, didn't happen on our soil and for those two reasons we should keep out of it. Everyone knows SA "takes care" of their dissidents. If anyone has a beef with this it would be Turkey since it happened in Turkey. Let them duke it out with the Sauds. Not our business. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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HempWillSaveTheWorld
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bigD111
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NewGeneration2019
User ID: 77108930 United Kingdom 11/16/2018 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So when Trump says Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people and he then says it is the duty of the US to punish Assad with military intervention, that's perfectly ok? But when it comes to a murdered US resident in Khashoggi who was about to reveal Saudi involvement in chemical weapon use in Yemen it is suddenly "not our circus, not our monkeys". Got it. |
BeSkeptical
User ID: 46420627 United States 11/16/2018 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First: Khashoggi was apparently a rogue intelligence agent. Frankly, rogue agents are executed all the time--by the Americans, British, Russians, Chinese, etc. No one bats an eyelash. Local law enforcement is sternly told to report it as a suicide, an accident, a botched robbery, or whatever; and the press is just as sternly told to swallow the cover story and not ask questions. Second: The CIA is, quite simply, a team of professional liars. Why in the world would anyone believe a thing that the CIA says? Last Edited by BeSkeptical on 11/16/2018 10:26 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16990338 Canada 11/16/2018 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First: Khashoggi was apparently a rogue intelligence agent. Frankly, rogue agents are executed all the time--by the Americans, British, Russians, Chinese, etc. No one bats an eyelash. Local law enforcement is sternly told to report it as a suicide, an accident, a botched robbery, or whatever; and the press is just as sternly told to swallow the cover story and not ask questions. Quoting: BeSkeptical Second: The CIA is, quite simply, a team of professional liars. Why in the world would anyone believe a thing that the CIA says? I dont think he was a spy whatever he was he was trying to help people perhaps he started off one way and ended up better not sure all I know is that to me he didnt seem like what you are implying if you remove the crown prince ...worse militants will pop up all over the place in saudi careful what you do God is the final judge Clearly hurting people like this is wrong and vile...but it is finished now and he is in the spirit world it pains me to think how hard it is for his family and sons...they dont even have a body to bury I pray they stay strong and understand he is in the spirit world and there is no pain there . I pray the family finds peace |