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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
(Friedrich Nietzsche)
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing

It would be a living Hell.
No morals, no respect for human life, no respect at all for any one different from yourself ( skin color, beliefs, race, etc) and no peace.

All you have to do is look at a Communist society and it says it all.
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Which religions?

Atheism, Satanism, and Communism?
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing


Life wouldn't exist. So, you would cease to exist. Sounds like a viable option if you don't like the thought of being judged for your sins, but everyone will be.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing


Obviously not, before Judeo Christianity in the western world, child/human sacrifice was the norm throughout the world.

Communism has lead to more deaths than any other form of government in the history of the world far surpasses religious wars (and all religious wars account for a total of 4% of the wars in history).

That leaves 96% of the wars in history based of flat murder.

Thou shall not kill the second commandment in the Bible.

So humanity in general without Judeo Christian values, has committed more than 96% of the wars in history.

Out of the 4% of the religous wars in history, the majority were Islamic.

If you don't know these facts from history, you are in denial.

Denial of faith in God would be the only possible explanation for your answer OR you would have to be completely clueless to the historical facts of history.
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Which religions?

Atheism, Satanism, and Communism?
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


Religions that were build on the existence of any god. Yes, I know there are more 'religions'. Believing in another ideal world or the best way people should devote their life to.

Communism is more build on an ideological society. (no irrational god available)
Satanism. Must google that but I won't.
Atheism does not need a god, because it advertizes the non existence of God.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing

It would be a living Hell.
No morals, no respect for human life, no respect at all for any one different from yourself ( skin color, beliefs, race, etc) and no peace.

All you have to do is look at a Communist society and it says it all.
 Quoting: The Dr.


And no respect for Communists?
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing


Obviously not, before Judeo Christianity in the western world, child/human sacrifice was the norm throughout the world.

Communism has lead to more deaths than any other form of government in the history of the world far surpasses religious wars (and all religious wars account for a total of 4% of the wars in history).

That leaves 96% of the wars in history based of flat murder.

Thou shall not kill the second commandment in the Bible.

So humanity in general without Judeo Christian values, has committed more than 96% of the wars in history.

Out of the 4% of the religous wars in history, the majority were Islamic.

If you don't know these facts from history, you are in denial.

Denial of faith in God would be the only possible explanation for your answer OR you would have to be completely clueless to the historical facts of history.
 Quoting: NikM755


I am not denying anything. Was just asking a question.
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Less war...

It's quite obvious that the main religions were created by TPTB. They intentionally were meant to divide us against each other so they could concur. Hell just look at what is going on in Europe today. This is all intentional and the same PTB are behind it. A global conspiracy for a one world government has literally been underway for thousands of years. And before someone calls me an atheist I believe in God & eventually came to my own understanding. I'm not gonna follow some man made book meant to subdue us when the truth lies within yourself & only yourself...
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Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you

Satanist Agreement.

But Satan needs religion to sweep the religious sheeple into his NWO realm.

The Bible reading non-religious people are the ones they chase down again.

One spirit under Satan.

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
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Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you

This is after billions are killed.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing


Obviously not, before Judeo Christianity in the western world, child/human sacrifice was the norm throughout the world.

Communism has lead to more deaths than any other form of government in the history of the world far surpasses religious wars (and all religious wars account for a total of 4% of the wars in history).

That leaves 96% of the wars in history based of flat murder.

Thou shall not kill the second commandment in the Bible.

So humanity in general without Judeo Christian values, has committed more than 96% of the wars in history.

Out of the 4% of the religous wars in history, the majority were Islamic.

If you don't know these facts from history, you are in denial.

Denial of faith in God would be the only possible explanation for your answer OR you would have to be completely clueless to the historical facts of history.
 Quoting: NikM755


I take it your clueless & forget the fact about all the Free Thinkers that were rounded up & burned alive by the church? Oh & let's not forget about all the supposed witches that faced this same gruesome fate. But thou shall not kill right?

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"The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish."

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Obviously I asked a wrong question at a wrong time at the wrong people.

I am sure that, without any gods, there would be at least less disagreements about THAT issue.

Without Gods (skip Religion), it would be a lot easier to disagree.

Capitalist versus Communist
Left versus Right
Poor versus Rich...
Educated versus Uneducated

Still stupid...but at least no irrational powers would be at stake.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing


:270:
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lets say Jesus was in front of
would he still need Christianity as a voice?
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Didn’t this happen before. You become a catholic or you are dead. You become a Protestant or you are dead. There is nothing new under the sun.

The biggest joke of Christian brotherly love. The Irish Republican Army against the Protestants.

Pride is at the top of the religious pyramid.

Proverbs 16:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
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Jesus was a heretic. Killed for not following the religion of his time.


her·e·tic
/ˈherəˌtik/Submit
noun
a person believing in or practicing religious heresy.
synonyms: dissenter, nonconformist, apostate, freethinker, iconoclast; More
a person holding an opinion at odds with what is generally accepted.

The 5th seal saints were heretics.

I am a heretic. No religion. The poop can’t take over my church because I don’t have one.,
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We talking soul not flesh.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing

It would be a living Hell.
No morals, no respect for human life, no respect at all for any one different from yourself ( skin color, beliefs, race, etc) and no peace.

All you have to do is look at a Communist society and it says it all.
 Quoting: The Dr.


So you cannot feel empathy for other human beings without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

You cannot contemplate the consequences of your actions as it relates to others and abstain from harming others without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

You cannot recognize the value of helping/assisting others without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

huh
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"...While there’s no denying that campaigns such as the Crusades and the Thirty Years’ War foundationally rested on religious ideology, it is simply incorrect to assert that religion has been the primary cause of war. Moreover, ...it is a fallacy to say that all faiths contribute equally where religiously-motivated violence and warfare are concerned.

An interesting source of truth on the matter is Philip and Axelrod’s three-volume Encyclopedia of Wars, which chronicles some 1,763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the authors categorize 123 as being religious in nature, which is an astonishingly low 6.98% of all wars. However, when one subtracts out those waged in the name of Islam (66), the percentage is cut by more than half to 3.23%.

That means that all faiths combined – minus Islam – have caused less than 4% of all of humanity’s wars and violent conflicts. Further, they played no motivating role in the major wars that have resulted in the most loss of life...


"The truth is, non-religious motivations and naturalistic philosophies bear the blame for nearly all of humankind’s wars. Lives lost during religious conflict pales in comparison to those experienced during the regimes who wanted nothing to do with the idea of God – something showcased in R. J. Rummel’s work Lethal Politics and Death by Government:

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003"
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“I understand now that boundaries between noise and sound are conventions. All boundaries are conventions, waiting to be transcended. One may transcend any convention if only one can first conceive of doing so.”
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing

It would be a living Hell.
No morals, no respect for human life, no respect at all for any one different from yourself ( skin color, beliefs, race, etc) and no peace.

All you have to do is look at a Communist society and it says it all.
 Quoting: The Dr.


So you cannot feel empathy for other human beings without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

You cannot contemplate the consequences of your actions as it relates to others and abstain from harming others without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

You cannot recognize the value of helping/assisting others without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

huh
 Quoting: WOLF*


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"...While there’s no denying that campaigns such as the Crusades and the Thirty Years’ War foundationally rested on religious ideology, it is simply incorrect to assert that religion has been the primary cause of war. Moreover, ...it is a fallacy to say that all faiths contribute equally where religiously-motivated violence and warfare are concerned.

An interesting source of truth on the matter is Philip and Axelrod’s three-volume Encyclopedia of Wars, which chronicles some 1,763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the authors categorize 123 as being religious in nature, which is an astonishingly low 6.98% of all wars. However, when one subtracts out those waged in the name of Islam (66), the percentage is cut by more than half to 3.23%.

That means that all faiths combined – minus Islam – have caused less than 4% of all of humanity’s wars and violent conflicts. Further, they played no motivating role in the major wars that have resulted in the most loss of life...


"The truth is, non-religious motivations and naturalistic philosophies bear the blame for nearly all of humankind’s wars. Lives lost during religious conflict pales in comparison to those experienced during the regimes who wanted nothing to do with the idea of God – something showcased in R. J. Rummel’s work Lethal Politics and Death by Government:

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003"
 Quoting: FistMcKraken


Thank you. I was never good at figures and statistics. A lot of wars have been fought for other reason than Religion. What was the reason for those wars? Only gaining more territory or defending its own?

Do you also have figures on Religious fights?
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"...While there’s no denying that campaigns such as the Crusades and the Thirty Years’ War foundationally rested on religious ideology, it is simply incorrect to assert that religion has been the primary cause of war. Moreover, ...it is a fallacy to say that all faiths contribute equally where religiously-motivated violence and warfare are concerned.

An interesting source of truth on the matter is Philip and Axelrod’s three-volume Encyclopedia of Wars, which chronicles some 1,763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the authors categorize 123 as being religious in nature, which is an astonishingly low 6.98% of all wars. However, when one subtracts out those waged in the name of Islam (66), the percentage is cut by more than half to 3.23%.

That means that all faiths combined – minus Islam – have caused less than 4% of all of humanity’s wars and violent conflicts. Further, they played no motivating role in the major wars that have resulted in the most loss of life...


"The truth is, non-religious motivations and naturalistic philosophies bear the blame for nearly all of humankind’s wars. Lives lost during religious conflict pales in comparison to those experienced during the regimes who wanted nothing to do with the idea of God – something showcased in R. J. Rummel’s work Lethal Politics and Death by Government:

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003"
 Quoting: FistMcKraken


Thank you. I was never good at figures and statistics. A lot of wars have been fought for other reason than Religion. What was the reason for those wars? Only gaining more territory or defending its own?

Do you also have figures on Religious fights?
 Quoting: Small blue thing


See cited works listed at bottom of the article.
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Do you also know why Abu Bakr became the new caliph and why the others were against it? They wanted Ali! This is only between Sunni's and Shia's. They are 'in war' since Muhammed died. They are ALL Muslims.

Religious wars were fought for silly reasons. We, Christians, (not me) could start a war on the 'successor of Jesus'.
"It must be Trump!" "No, you are SO wrong it must be a Democrat!"

Jesus would laugh silently and say nothing.(if he ever existed)

Cheers.
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How would our world look like without any religions?

LESS OR MORE WARS?

NO HOLY BOOKS AVAILABLE
No churches, mosks, synagoges etc. available.
No Gods available.

Would we treat each other more peacefully and respectful?
 Quoting: Small blue thing

It would be a living Hell.
No morals, no respect for human life, no respect at all for any one different from yourself ( skin color, beliefs, race, etc) and no peace.

All you have to do is look at a Communist society and it says it all.
 Quoting: The Dr.


So you cannot feel empathy for other human beings without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

You cannot contemplate the consequences of your actions as it relates to others and abstain from harming others without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

You cannot recognize the value of helping/assisting others without the influence of an external, organized belief system (religion)?

huh
 Quoting: WOLF*


If the answers to those questions were yes then it would follow (imo) that morals, sense of doing what is right, respect for fellow humans etc were all insincere. The incentive for such behavior being completely self serving ie gaining entry to paradise.
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