HELP! Not LARPING - My good friend VENERATES 'Fireman Prophet MARK TAYLOR' & 'Donald Trump' - GOT EXTREMELY ANGRY AT ME!!!

I like Q. I like Trump.

Don't know much about Taylor.

Enjoying your trolly thread.

True Story BRAH!

I swear my friend deems the belief in Mark Taylor as God's prophet and that DONALD TRUMP is GOD'S CHOICE is prerequisite for Salvation.

NO JOKE.

seriously people, I went against my friend's idolization and extreme veneration of Mark Taylor, Donald Trump - now think's I'm not Christian and will be dammned and punished seven fold.

you think I'm fucking with you???

no I'm not fucking with you!!!

Saints don't declare themselves Saints, that would be selfish of them, perverting the gift of God by exulting in the fame of it.

absolutely, this deceiver Mark Taylor is a sly psy-op - he never declared himself anything, just made dubious claims and has called his works 'PROPHETIC WORDS'

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the web of deceit, web of lies is well orchestrated. Mark Taylor and his cronies raised $2+ million dollars to produce the movie/film/propaganda 'THE TRUMP PROPHECIES'

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I feel quite shocked and defeated in knowing my good friend is under such strong delusion, he quotes and forwards me Bible verses to 'prove' his beliefs..

He is now 100% totally interested in Government, politics, believes everything Mark Taylor says in the literal sense, and now wants to RUN FOR OFFICE!!!

after the initial shock the other day...

I remember right before the 2016 presidential election, we both along with our friends and family where following the debates closely...

It was then that he first mentioned Mark Taylor to me, and immediately provided me links to his website...

Now that I remember, he we were at a bar during happy hours...

He was so adamant about Mark Taylor he even let me use his phone to access Mark Taylor's .pdf files...

right before the election, I remember telling him that Mark Taylor's 'PROPHECY' was supposedly from 2011, and his .pdf file was created way past 2011, and it was only 2016 that he decided to share it.

YET HE BOUGHT IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER AS MANY DID.

Good godd you sound like a real asshole. Quit raining on you friends parade and mind your own fucking business.

your take is that I should allow deception to go unheeded.

that's just too bad.

2 Thessalonians 2

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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It's not complicated, and that's just one example of what was warned about over and over. It isn't a game God is playing, it's real and the delusion will only get stronger as time goes by. Either way it's each persons choice to turn to God or stay dead in the world, all you can do is present the truth and pray for God to lay hold of their heart and remove the delusion.

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Matthew 7

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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I'd ask, if they believe so strongly a man claiming to be speaking for God, why would they reject the Son of God warning about that same type of man.

My friend thinks I'm a jerk and an a**hole for daring to question 'God's Anointed.

Looking back, I didn't quite catch on to his delusion, it just got stronger and stronger - and now it's downright scary... Currently he's borderline EGO-MANIACAL, he's using KJV Bible verses to try to shut me up, knowing that I'm not well read as him...

Seriously, this man, in his late 30's believes that Ex-Fireman Mark Taylor is literally INFALLIBLE. He goes on word by word what Taylor SEZ about future mass arrests, and the Catholic Church (as if Taylor was first person in the world to talk about that...)

I will definitely follow your SOUND ADVICE.

Very Scary & Sad.

I will definitely follow your SOUND ADVICE.

Seriously people, identifying Donald Trump as God's anointed and chosen by God to save America...

IS DANGEROUSLY IDEOLOGY.

I voted Donald Trump, I like Donald Trump, I think he's doing a great job. But Donald Trump is not a saint. Donald Trump is a Politician.

Yes the leftists, communists, npc's, and democrats are evil and brainwashed...

Ex-Fireman Mark Taylor and his enablers like Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell are scheming heretics aligned with some crazy movement...

Didn't Jesus say to test all spirits?? Also you mention you're not as well read up on the bible as he is, maybe this is an opportunity to read up on it?

My friend thinks everything Donald Trump does brings forth good fruit, therefore Mark Taylor is a prophet that speaks directly to God.

True that, I need to get better acquainted with the Bible.

All rulers, kings, presidents, politicians are just that.

Didn't Jesus say give what belongs to Caesar, to Caesar???

What belongs to God, belongs to God.

With what this whole Fireman Mark Taylor and the whole 'Trump Prophecies' movement is BRINGING TRUMP & GOD into ONE ENTITY.


Something like whatever the Trump administration does... is literally GOD'S WILL and WORK!

when I mentioned that Trump fronted some of the recent false flags, my friend got triggered and agitated big time. it was a sad sight to reckon.

In my opinion the best thing you can do at this point, make sure you have strong faith in Jesus Christ and pray for your friend's soul and be patient. Do not be aggressive towards him and wait. You will see transformation, I can assure you.

Cult mentality. I hate it. I have a friend who hangs the very word of Jeff Rense. Thinks everything in the Pacific ocean is dead because Rense says so. Years ago it was Bill Cooper - whom I also loved but not like a cult follower. My friend always preceded everything with, "well, Cooper says...". Years before that, my friend was in a real cult. Some spinoff off the LDS church that really fucked up everyone who got sucked in by it. Some people are vulnerable to cult thinking. Obama supporters were and the Bushbots were. My leader right or wrong.

America is Babylon

And it will be obliterated

Jormungundr is right...it sounds like you're picking a fight


If you don't have proof ...then all you have is speculation. Opinions don't affect you

A mature person would simply agree to disagree. And ask him to not speak about it with them.

You have told your friend what you think and he rejected it. What is your plan, to kidnap him, tie him up, and beat him until he gives up his delusion? Or do you just hope to browbeat him until your friendship is irrevocably damaged? It sounds like you have done your due diligence already.

Didn’t Mark Taylor say that God told him the Republicans would hold the house earlier this month? If so, then he can’t be a true prophet because what he foretold did not come to pass (jer 28). Point this out to your friend.

He is irrational if you judge by the standards of the Doctrines of Christ. I mean, you want a list of bible verses to show him? If he won't listen to scripture then,
he's in error. In a delusion.
Is he your neighbor so you are stuck seeing him a lot?
I'd steer clear of talking politics with him.

Just thinking or speaking rationally makes him extremely angry? He yelled at you? Wow.

It happens a lot these days.
Lots and lots of people believe what you stated about Taylor and Trump.
It's not a salvation issue but the guy is certainly in the "idol worship" area... following teachings of men not The Word.

On YouTube there are SO MANY "Christians" who loyally follow dreamers & seers and these ladies will chew you up if you question if the dream was from God.
I mean, they won't listen to reason.
And.. there's NO changing their minds! It's so crazy. They cannot understand how serious this is, to be seduced to follow a false prophet.
I know these kinds people do not read and study the bible.
Many are new age types, calling themselves Christians but they can't be! They are duped by some kind of deception.
They know a few key verses.. to allow for any behavior that they want to do.

What are you going to do? What CAN you do?

I used to know a realtor who was into the PROSPERITY GOSPEL of Joel Osteen and his ilk... was extremely abusive and toxic to everyone around him, cussing out mortgage brokers, trying to force unqualified people in buying a home, lies, cheats, steals, embezzles, adultery... claims to be Christian goes to Catholic Church (seriously lies even to the priests) and goes to another Church... this said person didn't think I was a 'real' Christian.

Mark Taylor is always tweaking and updating his 'prophetic words' - he's spewing all over twitter. Thanks for mentioning that, I'll find a way to gently bring this up soon...

I told my buddy straight up, I can't prove it, I have nothing but RED FLAGS & ALARM BELLS GOING OFF!

My buddy's proof is supposedly he prayed over it, and therefore it's real and apparently he's all in with this NEW GOSPEL of TAYLOR, TRUMP, and GOD. I kid you not.

Troll thread on not, I have to say I am slowly getting mad at Trump for not locking the swamp up. He hasn't done a damn thing to these people and has no intentions of it while we are jailed for victimless so called crimes.

We have to do this ourselves. Get that point.

When I first met him, he was entrenched in the Jehovah's Witnesses... Even he admits that I helped planted the seed of Truth, the divinity and deity of Jesus Christ.

But this recent UN-HOLY TRINITY of Taylor, Trump, and God has ensnared so many it seems.

Like I said, I like Trump, I voted for Trump...

Remembering not too way back, I expressed my dissatisfaction of Trump's military action in Syria (going against campaign promises) - my friend, was all PRO-TRUMP.

At the time, I didn't know how deep he was into this new gospel by Taylor... Geeez... I didn't see the signs...

What was really shocking was when I mentioned some of the recent false flags, after his reaction, I immediately changed the subject (he was a 9/11 official story doubter back in the day...)

Honestly, I think it's daddy issues, seriously - satan preys upon the weak.

I like the idea of praying for Trump and all that... but Trumpism can lead many down a different path, an more extreme path...

My friend basically equated Righteousness and Godliness to this UN-HOLY TRINITY.

I seriously doubt that he tells his pastor any of this, but because we've been friends for so long... I don't see him often, but wow - just wow.

The feeling I got after that recent meeting was that I was lesser spiritually than him - NO JOKE. It seems that he feels more superior than me as he has HIS UN-HOLY TRINITY on his SIDE.

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Look I consider him a close friend, he had my back, and I had his back when we were down and out...

You see, when at work, we all have various colleagues, customers, vendors, members of the general public of all various shades and colors. Some are mormon, some are homosexuals, some are hindus, some are muslims, some atheists, some are pagan witches, some are acquaintances, some are professional relationships etc...

We do not give a second thought about them, until they are in your close circle of friends...

Not trolling. Real life experience.

Thank you to all that have replied.

I watched M Taylor's vids and admit I was intrigued and almost sucked in completely, but something just kept telling me this guy is a fraud.

As soon as he started to say 'thus sayith the Lord' he put himself on the chopping block as a prophet, NOT prophetic words to be misconstrued or twisted when his 'prophecy' doesn't pan out.

He has proven himself to be a complete fraud and despite what any of us think about him, good or bad, Taylor will be judged by the ultimate authority.

Last Edited by Osti on 11/25/2018 06:32 AM

That's because he sounded so insistent. That could have been his PTSD

He has been through so much, losses, depression, no real sense of direction... Apparently Mark Taylor, Trump, and God gave him energy and motivation it seems...

He is basically very alive look forward to the 'mass arrests' and can't wait to see the Catholic Church go down exactly like how fireman Mark Tayloy SEZ it will go down...