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freedomjesse
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User ID: 72267068 United States 12/05/2018 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. Took it for over 6 months while rebuilding my shoulder after tearing the rotator cuff and it froze.. Slight withdrawal (maybe) got a headache a few times after stopping. Can't think of anything else. Wife takes it on and off for fibromyalgia. She said she has no withdrawal. Kratom has been good to me. Sorry to hear it affects you differently. |
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~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 12/05/2018 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been taking it for 6 years now, and am a total slave to this stuff. I started taking it to get off of hydrocodone that a doctor got me hooked on. Everyone that says this stuff is not addictive is fooling themselves. Yes, it helps you get off of pain pills, but it's every bit as addictive as pain pills themselves, and the withdrawals are horrendous. Does anyone have any advice? I've lost like 30 pounds since I've been on it, and everyone is always asking me if I'm OK. I'm just ready to have my life back. Quoting: freedomjesse I looked it up and one site said to taper off of it Guess it can be just as bad as opioid withdrawal Hope this can help you! Adding this too...... Over-the-Counter Medications For Opiate Withdrawal Sometimes, you can't make it to the doctor. Check out our Heroin Detox Survival Guide for strategies to get you through. Imodium: Imodium (brand name for the generic over-the-counter anti-diarrhea medication loperamide) can help with the stomach issues caused by opiate withdrawal. We recommend taking it only as directed. Dramamine: Over-the-counter anti-nausea meds such as Antivert, Bonine, and Dramamine can help with nausea caused by withdrawal. These are commonly offered for motion sickness. Advil or Tylenol: For achey muscles, take acetaminophen (like Tylenol) or ibuprofen (like Advil). A hot bath or a slow walk can also work wonders. Want to know how long opiate withdrawal will last? Check out our opiate withdrawal timeline to know exactly what to expect. [link to www.workithealth.com (secure)] [link to americanaddictioncenters.org (secure)] Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 12/05/2018 04:11 PM ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
freedomjesse
(OP) User ID: 77063926 United States 12/05/2018 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been taking it for 6 years now, and am a total slave to this stuff. I started taking it to get off of hydrocodone that a doctor got me hooked on. Everyone that says this stuff is not addictive is fooling themselves. Yes, it helps you get off of pain pills, but it's every bit as addictive as pain pills themselves, and the withdrawals are horrendous. Does anyone have any advice? I've lost like 30 pounds since I've been on it, and everyone is always asking me if I'm OK. I'm just ready to have my life back. Quoting: freedomjesse I looked it up and one site said to taper off of it Guess it can be just as bad as opioid withdrawal Hope this can help you! Adding this too...... Over-the-Counter Medications For Opiate Withdrawal Sometimes, you can't make it to the doctor. Check out our Heroin Detox Survival Guide for strategies to get you through. Imodium: Imodium (brand name for the generic over-the-counter anti-diarrhea medication loperamide) can help with the stomach issues caused by opiate withdrawal. We recommend taking it only as directed. Dramamine: Over-the-counter anti-nausea meds such as Antivert, Bonine, and Dramamine can help with nausea caused by withdrawal. These are commonly offered for motion sickness. Advil or Tylenol: For achey muscles, take acetaminophen (like Tylenol) or ibuprofen (like Advil). A hot bath or a slow walk can also work wonders. Want to know how long opiate withdrawal will last? Check out our opiate withdrawal timeline to know exactly what to expect. [link to www.workithealth.com (secure)] [link to americanaddictioncenters.org (secure)] I've tried tapering. It doesn't work for me. I guess I don't have the self control for it. It's gotta be cold turkey. |
freedomjesse
(OP) User ID: 77063926 United States 12/05/2018 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its gonna suck for two weeks but you can do it. Quoting: Sardines Get a hold of some valium and maybe ambien. Youll get the chills and sweat at the same time, runny nose, it sucks but could be worse. I definitely don't want to take anything else. I've got a VERY addictive personality. I've done cold turkey off of hydrocodone in the past, and it definitely sucked, but it seems as if it's worse with kratom. |
pillcawsby
User ID: 77006214 Germany 12/05/2018 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah i get trouble everytime i quit kratom with the withdrawal and other crap. You have to taper down, every 2 days drop down half a gram or a full gram. That's what i do at least and it works. You have to go all the way down to 1 to half gram doses then jump off. Thats the only way you get minimal to no withdrawal. |
freedomjesse
(OP) User ID: 77063926 United States 12/05/2018 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah i get trouble everytime i quit kratom with the withdrawal and other crap. You have to taper down, every 2 days drop down half a gram or a full gram. That's what i do at least and it works. You have to go all the way down to 1 to half gram doses then jump off. Thats the only way you get minimal to no withdrawal. Quoting: pillcawsby I've tried tapering in the past....I don't have the self control for it I guess. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72773807 United States 12/05/2018 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its gonna suck for two weeks but you can do it. Quoting: Sardines Get a hold of some valium and maybe ambien. Youll get the chills and sweat at the same time, runny nose, it sucks but could be worse. Its not going to last 2 weeks . Def not even bad at all . To OP . I take almost 40 grams a day . Worse i had was restless legs . Maybe some shits but nothing near as bad as opiates. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72773807 United States 12/05/2018 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah i get trouble everytime i quit kratom with the withdrawal and other crap. You have to taper down, every 2 days drop down half a gram or a full gram. That's what i do at least and it works. You have to go all the way down to 1 to half gram doses then jump off. Thats the only way you get minimal to no withdrawal. Quoting: pillcawsby I've tried tapering in the past....I don't have the self control for it I guess. Ask someone to help . Gove them ur kratom . Make them swear to only give u so much each day . |
janedoenut
User ID: 74315406 United States 12/05/2018 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know someone who got addicted to hydrocodone and used kratom to get off them and then struggled to get off the kratom and is very much against it. 5 year battle to get clean but she did it. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
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Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 30616576 Canada 12/05/2018 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously? Just man up and quit. I use it now and then for issues. Never felt an overwhelming desire to take it everyday. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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BRIEF
User ID: 39607259 United States 12/06/2018 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been taking it for 6 years now, and am a total slave to this stuff. I started taking it to get off of hydrocodone that a doctor got me hooked on. Everyone that says this stuff is not addictive is fooling themselves. Yes, it helps you get off of pain pills, but it's every bit as addictive as pain pills themselves, and the withdrawals are horrendous. Does anyone have any advice? I've lost like 30 pounds since I've been on it, and everyone is always asking me if I'm OK. I'm just ready to have my life back. Quoting: freedomjesse Try cocaine... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Timur2020
User ID: 72499908 United States 12/13/2018 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been taking it for 6 years now, and am a total slave to this stuff. I started taking it to get off of hydrocodone that a doctor got me hooked on. Everyone that says this stuff is not addictive is fooling themselves. Yes, it helps you get off of pain pills, but it's every bit as addictive as pain pills themselves, and the withdrawals are horrendous. Does anyone have any advice? I've lost like 30 pounds since I've been on it, and everyone is always asking me if I'm OK. I'm just ready to have my life back. Quoting: freedomjesse Its the lightest, shortest, easiest of all? 1) knock off being such a drama queen 2) Loperamide over the counter diarhhea pills 3) pot 4) small amounts (.25) of xanax a couple times a day (don't start glutting that) Its 1 week or less? I flush it out with reishi and cuts time in half. Easy peasey. It takes a lot of self serving gall to carry on when you are as sick as you ate greedy, act like its the kratom and not you and help ruin it for all looking silly with drama and gluttony feeding fda I live in a junkie state and ya'lls MAIN addiction is not to drugs, its to dramatic bullshit and the constant "alice in zombieland" excuse. Kratom isn't what's fucking up your life, its just one of the things you have used to fuck up your life. Everybody else is embarassed enough to get thier cheap detox things and not have to make a bloody mess of it. Sorry if thats stiff, but people caring about your unnecessary messes is as dead as disco. The number of people suffering becauss of this opium thing that are legit far outwiegh the jackazz slackers used to justify it. The era of sympathy for addiction has to be over. People are gauranteed a constant "oh be strong!" "You go!" Every time they glut thier selves sick again like having your simple shit together is an olympic feat. Your shit together is just what everybody does every day after waking. Its not climbing everest. When civilized people find thier selves with an indiscretion, they go to thier house quietly, fix it and hope others don't find out. Its embarassing, not a "sharing" thing. I know the remedies work, I hope the common sense and refusal of sympathy or acknowledgement of that does too, because its definately more important. Especially if you are going to be a "lifer" and have to accomplish a whole regular life in spite of your susceptibility. Millions do. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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VigilantTexan
User ID: 72775181 United States 12/13/2018 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been taking it for 6 years now, and am a total slave to this stuff. I started taking it to get off of hydrocodone that a doctor got me hooked on. Everyone that says this stuff is not addictive is fooling themselves. Yes, it helps you get off of pain pills, but it's every bit as addictive as pain pills themselves, and the withdrawals are horrendous. Does anyone have any advice? I've lost like 30 pounds since I've been on it, and everyone is always asking me if I'm OK. I'm just ready to have my life back. Quoting: freedomjesse Its the lightest, shortest, easiest of all? 1) knock off being such a drama queen 2) Loperamide over the counter diarhhea pills 3) pot 4) small amounts (.25) of xanax a couple times a day (don't start glutting that) Its 1 week or less? I flush it out with reishi and cuts time in half. Easy peasey. It takes a lot of self serving gall to carry on when you are as sick as you ate greedy, act like its the kratom and not you and help ruin it for all looking silly with drama and gluttony feeding fda I live in a junkie state and ya'lls MAIN addiction is not to drugs, its to dramatic bullshit and the constant "alice in zombieland" excuse. Kratom isn't what's fucking up your life, its just one of the things you have used to fuck up your life. Everybody else is embarassed enough to get thier cheap detox things and not have to make a bloody mess of it. Sorry if thats stiff, but people caring about your unnecessary messes is as dead as disco. The number of people suffering becauss of this opium thing that are legit far outwiegh the jackazz slackers used to justify it. The era of sympathy for addiction has to be over. People are gauranteed a constant "oh be strong!" "You go!" Every time they glut thier selves sick again like having your simple shit together is an olympic feat. Your shit together is just what everybody does every day after waking. Its not climbing everest. When civilized people find thier selves with an indiscretion, they go to thier house quietly, fix it and hope others don't find out. Its embarassing, not a "sharing" thing. I know the remedies work, I hope the common sense and refusal of sympathy or acknowledgement of that does too, because its definately more important. Especially if you are going to be a "lifer" and have to accomplish a whole regular life in spite of your susceptibility. Millions do. This^ Op is probably full of shit anyway since the Dea is making a huge push right this minute to schedule kratom. Makes sense that we start seeing kratom threads acting like it worse than pain pills and heroin. |
Alien grey
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Yo Adrian
User ID: 77161935 United States 12/13/2018 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its gonna suck for two weeks but you can do it. Quoting: Sardines Get a hold of some valium and maybe ambien. Youll get the chills and sweat at the same time, runny nose, it sucks but could be worse. HAHAHAHA. Now you know the Kratom shills are in da house. (Pulls off mask)"And we would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those meddling Qtards" Klaus S. |
Fluffy Pancakes
User ID: 77139016 United States 12/13/2018 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS. The worst it can be is like quitting coffee. If that is murderous to you, which quitting coffee feels like to me, sack up. I know too many people who are alive because they used kratom to get off heroin. Certainly every human is different, but trolling on kratom is just that. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Winning!
User ID: 77124756 Canada 12/13/2018 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been taking it for 6 years now, and am a total slave to this stuff. I started taking it to get off of hydrocodone that a doctor got me hooked on. Everyone that says this stuff is not addictive is fooling themselves. Yes, it helps you get off of pain pills, but it's every bit as addictive as pain pills themselves, and the withdrawals are horrendous. Does anyone have any advice? I've lost like 30 pounds since I've been on it, and everyone is always asking me if I'm OK. I'm just ready to have my life back. Quoting: freedomjesse Get some beer "Them Country Girls Can Whoop Some Ass, Cookin, Cleanin, Catchin Bass, Y'all Can Keep That City Trash." |
Griefo
User ID: 76811841 United States 12/13/2018 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've used it for around 3 years now, roughly six grams a day. I've gone without it for a week or so and didn't notice any bad withdrawal side effects. Maybe that's just me though. I was doing Klonopin everyday for 6 months and when I ran out, I was expecting a hellish withdrawal based on what I had heard and read, but I didn't notice much, other than becoming annoyed a little easier than usual. This is my happening and it freaks me out! |