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Ultimately though, when you read all of those NDE accounts- as I did years ago- initially they appear to be very comforting...
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


I've been exploring/contemplating the NDE literature (in depth) sporadically since the early 2000's...

There are in fact what they call 'distressing' NDE's... NDE Researcher Nancy E. Bush wrote a book about them, and conducted research into the matter...

- Some NDE's are distressing for the experiencer simply because of their prior frame of reference and how they subjectively respond to the content...

- Two people can have NDE's that feature roughly the same type of experience and environment - and one of those individuals can describe that experience as amazing/profound/enlightening - and one of those individuals can describe that similar experience as alarming/frightening/disconcerting... Again, this ties back to the element of subjectivity and one's frame of reference...

- Some people have NDE's that start off as distressing and then change/transition into something that is uplifting/rewarding/eye-opening

- Some individuals have NDE experiences that are only distressing/alarming (but these too can be utilized as vehicles for growth after the fact)

According to the author/researcher referenced above - there is no identifiable reason why certain individuals have different types of experiences... That there is no apparent causal link between the type of experience had and one's religion/philosophy, character/personality, etc... That it wasn't simply 'bad people' having distressing NDE's, or non-religious people only having distressing NDE's...

For most of my life, I was an atheist. I believed that even if there was a 'god'- it wouldn't be a god that I could worship. Observing how religious ideology (for the most part) played out on this planet only served to strengthen those views for me.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


I agree with how religious ideology does not impart a certain quality of character in individuals who profess belief in it.. It's predominantly mind-based (physical mind based)... Anyone can claim any ideology as their own and then act however they please and still claim their religious identity and believe that it entitles them to special status or or a special reward when they die...

And if we're going to emphasize the importance of one's character and the ability to feel/express various virtues (compassion, empathy, selflessness, love/acceptance, forgiveness, altruism, etc) - well it's readily apparent to me that you do not require any external religious ideology to do this or to lead by example or to find value in the virtues and peoples' actual character/nature (regardless of any ideological affiliation).

Moreover, I couldn't see why living a good honest life, irrespective of religious belief, would preclude you from entering 'heaven'- didn't seem very fair to me, or how a benevolent 'god' would operate.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


Yes it doesn't make any sense as presented. Apparently convicted rapists and murderers can enter 'heaven' alongside their victims - because they went to prison and found the right religion/ideology.... Yet your little old agnostic lady neighbor dies of a sudden heart attack and apparently she can't go to 'heaven' because she forgot to choose the 'right' beliefs/ideology before she passed... Again, doesn't make sense and does not speak to any higher principle of justice, fairness, equanimity, love, compassion...

Anyway, what struck me with the NDE accounts was the recurring theme of 'judgement'. Mainly, that it seemed impossible to get it right in this world, short of holing yourself up in a cave and avoiding all contact with other living beings... it's the nature of the dynamic here that you're going to fuck up, you're going to inadvertently hurt others, you're going to have regrets, things that you're ashamed about and things that you wished you could do differently.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


I'm not sure which site(s) or book(s) you exposed yourself to but I can tell you in my decade plus of exploring this material the 'life review' process/experience is one of the most commonly reported aspects of NDE's and the message that is frequently reported is that all sense of 'judgement' was originating from WITHIN - not from any external 'beings' or 'deities'... It was coming from a higher perspective within the individual, or let's say the soul-level awareness. And these reviews are not simply focused on 'negative' experiences or behaviors that an individual endured through - it can/will feature everything that is of value... The individual experiences a multi-dimensional awareness whereby they are shown or directly experience the point of view, the perspective, the awareness of other people who one came into contact with, and how they were affected by the interactions and relations (both 'positive' and 'negative'. So it's not all centered around reviewing things that may make someone feel uncomfortable or bad... All the ways in which someone helped others, the selfless actions, the positive interactions and acts of selflessness - that's all 'recorded' and there to, to be reviewed. Even all the 'small things' and 'little things' that most people convince themselves don't really matter or account for anything.... They do...

It's very important to acknowledge and understand that in these special non-ordinary states brought about by NDE's - the individual is experiencing an entirely enhanced state of being (state of awareness). So far removed from the normal everyday state of being (state of awareness) experienced in the embodied state. A lot of what is experienced during the NDE is done so through a different perspective, a different reference point. From the state of awareness that is no longer identified with the human character (human identity) as a source of self (as one's identity). Many individuals report having no attachment to their lifeless physical body. There is no sense of having lost anything simply because the body is incapacited and near death.

So in order to really understand the literature and the implications of it - you must somehow account for this change in perspective, change in reference points, and the fact that this is an entirely enhanced state of being (state of awareness) in which these experiences are playing out. You can't get an accurate reading and understanding for what is transpiring and the implications of it all if you try to process it all from the awareness and prespective of primarily being identified with your human character/identity as one's source of self. That's not the correct reference point for understanding the multi-dimensional nature of reality/existence because everything form-based in this physical dimension/reality is temporary. These bodies, these possessions, the stories we make up about ourselves and our identities as it relates to experiencing this world...

Example: the notion of incarnating here takes on an entirely different light to the individual who is experiencing the soul-level awareness that knows it is eternal and ultimately cannot be harmed - and it takes on an entirely different light to the individual who is experiencing the state of awareness that is rooted in individuality, separateness, and the physical world... The individual whose conscious state is rooted in the soul-level awareness will not fear physical 'death', because he/she knows it is only the temporary vessel that gets shed. However the individual whose conscious state is primarily rooted in the physical world, the physical body, and physical identity and the stories weaved around it - that individual has every reason to fear 'physical death' because from that limiting reference point, the very thought/imagination of 'dying' represents a perceive very real threat to one's identity/existence...

Does this make sense how one's state of awareness and reference point or perspective greatly influences how reality/existence is perceived? The light in which it is perceived changes substantially as an individual's state of awareness changes & expands....

And whilst these near-death experiencers reported an overwhelming sense of 'acceptance' and 'love', the message coming through time and time again was that they had to repeat the human experience to 'get it right', to 'learn about love' to 'evolve' and 'improve'...
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


Commonly people report being told that they had to return to their body and their human experience because there was still work to be done and experiences to be had. Not that they had to 'live another life' or that once they really died they would have to repeat this experience.

The human identity is illusory because it's temporary and impermanent. It doesn't last... The only thing that you bring with you when you leave here is your conscious energy (state of consciousness) and the connections that you've formed with the conscious energy of other 'beings" (people, animals, etc)... This is why refining your conscious energy (state of consciousness) is reinforced and valued - because that's all that lasts and has permanence... That's what you take with you as you travel reality/existence... The external forms are always transient and subject to change...

Think about it, if there are a multitude of dimensions (dimensional environments) to experience as part of your larger existence - how would one gain access to experience them? By way of physical accomplishments in this physical world? By way of choosing a certain religion and claiming certain ideological beliefs?

Or how about by way of refining and evolving one's state of consciousness and state of awareness - and thereby literally changing one's conscious energy (soul) in the process and unlocking new perceptions. How about by elevating/enhancing one's ability to feel and express the various virtues?

Wouldn't that seem most fair and just? That you put in the challenging/hard work to refine and evolve your own state of being - and through doing so you enhance/elevate the manner in which you are able to experience your existence... Certainly doesn't seem fair/just to me for anyone to claim that people should earn this through claiming religious/ideological affiliation, or from any 'worldly accomplishments'... It has to be cultivated from within...

What I'm saying is, how do we learn and improve? We learn from past mistakes in order to not repeat them hopefully.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


The process of learning, if it is legit/valid, changes you... It changes your state of being (state of consciousness, state of awareness). Let's say one of your parents really hurt you and did you wrong in this lifetime - but through years of challenging inner-work - you brought yourself to a state of being able to accept what you experienced and to find forgiveness for that individual. That is a major life lesson and one that has a significant impact on your state of consciousness. Once you endure through something like that, you find that you have naturally developed the ability to forgive others, not just that one individual (parent). And you know what, since that experience of forgiving that parent altered your state of consciousness and changed you - you do not require your memory of of the details/circumstances surrounding your interactions with that parent in order to forgive other individuals. Memory of the past is not required at all - you changed yourself and now you know the value/wisdom/importance of finding forgiveness and you cultivated the ability to accomplish this...

Once you know that the stove is hot you do not need to recall your memory of burning yourself when you were 4 in order to know as an adult not to touch the stove... You KNOW on the level of awareness - not on the level of physical memories... It's the same with 'life lessons', I do not need to conscious recall every earlier life experience in order to have benefitted from the lessons or the growth that I experienced as a result of what I went through. The memory of the actual event or physical circumstances is not primary, it's not necessary... What is necessary is that you altered, changed, transformed your state of consciousness. And you carry that enhanced state of awareness with you every where you go.


So how does a memory wipe and a new life in a new body possibly aid our spiritual advancement? Furthermore, how does incarnating into a nuthouse like planet Earth teach us anything of the 'spiritual'??
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


It's not really a 'wipe', nothing is being 'erased', or lost. All of the information is retained/recorded/stored... That is why individuals experiencing NDE's often report that in that special state of awareness, they could sense or intuitively know information pertaining to prior incarnations... They report that all of the information was there/accessible... That they could think of a question and immediately intuit the answer (and it made sense while experiencing that special state)

It is actually the experience of incarnating into the physical body that serves to temporarily impart the veil of forgetfulness... It's the physical body that limits your soul (conscious energy) from recalling everything that you have access to in the disembodied state... Which is exactly why NDE experiencers so commonly report experiencing this greatly expanded state of awareness in which they have access to all the answers to their questions, while in that state... It's because their conscious energy and state of awareness is no longer being restricted/limited by the physical body (by physical embodiment)...

Think about it - you go blind in this lifetime and you greatly restrict your ability to perceive and be aware of this physical world. If you go deaf, same story. If you suffer a traumatic brain injury, you may lose memory of your life experiences prior to sustaining that injury. So it's clear, even in this lifetime with a limited reference point - that the physical body is a source of limitation as it relates to your perception.

Understanding/perceiving that your lack of remembering what goes on outside this physical dimension is only a temporary form of amnesia, or forgetfulness... It doesn't last, it's not permanent... Nothing is lost, and there aren't any evil interdimensional beings 'wiping' or 'erasing' your memories... The physical body does that, just like it restricts/limits us in various ways while we're experiencing it...


It doesn't! If anything, it teaches the opposite- how do the kind, benevolent, generous and pacifist humans fare on this planet? Relative to the psychopathic predators? We're ingrained with this notion that karma will get them in the end- it really doesn't though, or at least no more than it does for innocent people just trying to get by...
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


This paragraph speaks to the reference point issue that I alluded to earlier. You are trying to interpret a model that has spiritual/trascendental implications - but you're trying to do it from the human reference point, or the human-derived state of awareness... Suffering experienced here is not indicative of an existence of suffering everywhere and at all times - it does not mean that you will experience suffering at all times and in all environments.... Yet the experience of suffering here can greatly skew your perceptions and your view of reality - and lead one to believe that this is a fixed state or orientation that will be experienced everywhere...

The notion that 'karma' is going to get someone back is largely rooted in a physical mind based state in which someone is hoping for revenge or retribution against someone for a perceived injustice. In reality what these individuals are going to be shown or become aware of when they die is exactly how their decisions, choices, actions affected the conscious experience of others. If they caused others suffering, they are going to realize that because they will be shown the perspective or state of awareness of the individuals that were affected by their actions (that they hurt). And that revelation or experience of 'knowing' the cause & effect of their actions is what's going to ultimately impact their conscious state of being and this will affect them in the course of trying to move forward...

Because we'd prefer to cling onto the 'nice' soft and fuzzy explanations. New Age teachings then picked up where religions left off. Setting people off down the wrong path until they're too enmeshed to just stop, accept it's all bullshit and start again. Kept busy with work and various distractions, never really challenging that 'received wisdom' because there's no perceivable benefit to doing so.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


Organized, externalized ideologies are often more of a distraction or impediment - then they are of any help. Many were designed to be manipulative and controlling, and others are only based on human psychology and they are designed to appeal to people only on a psychological level - often fueling egoic tendencies and impulses...

Long story short, it made me question the motives of whatever was operating in the 'afterlife'- lovebombing you just like any good sociopath does, telling you what you want to hear so you'll be easier to manipulate going forward.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


The 'love' that is sensed and experienced in the NDE state is not the 'love' that you are referring to by the use of the term 'love-bombing'... It is very important to make this distinction between the two - because it's not in any way the same...

How can we define the concept of authentic/genuine 'love' so that it is not conditional and doesn't carry a different meaning depending on the circumstances and the individuals involved?

I've thought about this a good deal - and I will offer that authentic/genuine 'love' is represented by a feeling of closeness and connectedness with another 'being', and also the direct awareness of being connected to that other 'being'... In definining it in this manner it doesn't matter whether you are talking about 'love' in reference to your Grandma, your wife, your brother, your sister, your friend, your dog/cat... The more you are aware and feel/experience a certain closeness and feeling of connection to those other individuals/beings - the more you would say you 'love' them... And the more you 'love' them, the more you feel that closeness/connectedness to them, and this is exactly why your sense of individuality and sense of separateness gets blurred and erroded the more you 'love' someone. It starts to feel like they are a part of you, and you a part of them. This is why when someone you deeply 'love' and care for is hurting, you have such an empathetic response it's like you are experiencing their pain, it's like what they're going through is happening to you...

This notion of 'love-bombing'... That is entirely psychological... It's done on the level of human psychology and using human language to elicit psychological reactions from individuals. Someone can psychologically manipulate someone else simply by telling them things they want to hear, or using psychology to influence that individual's emotions... There is nothing spiritual/transcendental and nothing deep about 'love bombing'... Imagine the guy who goes to bars and approaches women he doesn't know and immediately tries to run his 'game' of flattering them and telling them how beautiful/sexy they are... He doesn't even know these individuals on any personal nor deep level - there is nothing about this type of interaction that speaks to a real sense of closeness and connectedness with the parties involved. The interaction is entirely psychological and the male individual is motivated by a self-serving desire to obtain physical gratification/satisfaction through influencing the other party.

The type of 'love' that is reported to be experienced by NDE's is not the result of having other individuals/beings use psychology to communicate flattering things to oneself.

The type of 'love' reported in NDE's is an radiant, universal, accepting, all-encompassing 'love' that is rooted in experiencing the direct awareness (state of awareness) of one's 'closeness' and 'connectedness' with ALL THAT EXISTS, with the WHOLE... This is why the experience of the light can convey this experience/feeling of 'love'... It's because while experiencing it, one is returned to the state of awareness of being connected to everyone and everything. There is no longer the experience of separateness (separation), the notion of existing only as this individual being that is different and separate from everything else... That's what causes the real affliction, pain, suffering... The experience of stepping out of our natural state and experiencing the opposite (separation, disconnection).... Many individuals who have had a glimpse/preview of what it's like to return to that transcendental, disembodied state via having an NDE - they often describe it as feeling undeniably like 'home'...

So please, I strongly encourage to reconsider the literature - but this time with the mindfulness and the awareness to realize that we cannot rely on our more limiting human reference points to try to explain something which is supposed to transcend (rise above) the temporary human experience and all the limitations imparted by it... We can't understand a transcendental existence or state of being by relying on our 'human thinking', or the type of thinking that is only relevant within the confines of the human experience... Quick example: the notion of having a racial identity (thinking you are your race) or a national identity (being really patriotic) - these are excellent examples of limiting reference points that provide only a superficial sense of identity, and which would have absolutely zero value from the context of having departed this physical world and no longer experiencing it. The physical body and its skin color/complexion no longer has any significance... The man-made borders and the human created 'country' in which you were born - that reference point similarly holds no significance any longer. Yet look at how individuals go through life perceiving that their race is some form of identity, or that their birth country and their nationalism/patriotism somehow speaks to their identity (or sense of self).... Again, limiting reference points which need to be identified and shed (released) in order for the individual to perceive the 'bigger picture'...

Why is it that after so many tens of thousands of NDE accounts, globally and spanning back throughout history, that 'humanity' has no real answers?! Surely this would be the Number One question that every human on the planet would want answered?!
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


'Humanity' is not the primary reference point because the human experience is always a temporary one, your human body always carries an expiration date... What I'm saying is that being 'human' is not a real identity, only a temporary one...

In other words if you are to survive physical death - you must exist as something which actually transcends the human experience... When you continue to cultivate this awareness, it will eventually completely change your reference point and how you are 'approaching' these questions & circumstances....

Most people don't want to think about (physical) death because they are busy being identified with their bodies and their human characters - therefore the topic of 'death' comes across as threatening and alarming to them, because they perceive that they are these bodies/characters! Just like I alluded to above, the more consciously identified a person is with the temporary aspects of this human experience - the more frightening/scary the prospect of (physical) death is to them... So there is a psychological reason and 'defense mechanism' in play for many people that deters them from entertaining thoughts/ideas surrounding 'death' which would otherwise cause them to experience psychological distress...

And yet it's still a niche topic. Avoided by anyone who wants to be taken seriously- because they don't want us digging too deeply, looking into it too much or asking any awkward or difficult questions.
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


It was certainly 'niche' in the 60's and 70's (in the U.S.) - but it's increasingly becoming more popular and widespread as each decade has passed... The amount of books available on this subject matter has similarly skyrocketed. Lots of websites dedicated to hosting accounts of NDE's, lots of NDE networks and conferences/presentations springing up globally. You have more and more doctors feeling comfortable speaking about their experiences concerning being around individuals going through the 'dying' process. It's certainly not nearly as 'taboo' anymore...

Then when you stumble onto the Gnostic texts- which the establishment of the time tried so hard to suppress- well then it all starts to fall into place.

It did for me, anyway!
 Quoting: Know.Thyself


The only value I found from the gnostic ideology was the emphasis placed on 'personal knowing' and personal revelation by way of inward experience... That is supremely important and lies in opposition to how many organized religions operate where they hand you book claiming it has all the answers for you and you just need to believe it all - oh and you're not allowed to disbelieve any of it!...
 Quoting: WOLF*


Thanks Wolf for taking the time to compose such a detailed and considered response- I guess the easiest way to reply is to break down a few of the points and my thoughts on them?

“According to the author/researcher referenced above - there is no identifiable reason why certain individuals have different types of experiences... That there is no apparent causal link between the type of experience had and one's religion/philosophy, character/personality, etc... That it wasn't simply 'bad people' having distressing NDE's, or non-religious people only having distressing NDE's... “

I’d have to disagree with this, straight off the bat. For example, muslims rarely report positive NDEs of meeting with allah/muhammad or whatever, and in the rare instances that maybe they do (I’ve not come across anything convincing), I’d suspect a bit of taqiyya at play. See vid below…




Similarly, those who commit suicide also tend to experience less pleasant NDEs. The overlap with DMT experiences is also an interesting parallel, given that the brain allegedly releases huge amounts of DMT upon death.

“I'm not sure which site(s) or book(s) you exposed yourself to but I can tell you in my decade plus of exploring this material the 'life review' process/experience is one of the most commonly reported aspects of NDE's and the message that is frequently reported is that all sense of 'judgement' was originating from WITHIN - not from any external 'beings' or 'deities'... It was coming from a higher perspective within the individual, or let's say the soul-level awareness.”

I’ve thought about this also- that it is perhaps the ‘higher self’ informing the judgement, as opposed to an external force or ‘adjudicator’. HOWEVER, I’d have to say that one major defining difference that I’ve observed in terms of the humans on this planet, is that there are maybe three but certainly at least two ‘types’- those with conscience (empaths for want of a better word) and those without conscience (psychopaths/sociopaths/narcissists… general cluster B types). The latter would be better described as predators, whilst the former tend to be their prey/energy source. Obviously this view is quite distinct from the ‘we’re all ONE consciousness’ narrative. Rather, much as in nature, there are predators and there are prey. Why does a predator kill? For energy- food/sustenance. Why does a psychopath target the 'weak'? For energy- power/loosh.

So with that in mind, those individuals who tend towards psychopathy/sociopathy might arguably be described as those who would most benefit from a few ‘life lessons’. Yet it is precisely their lack of inner self-awareness and empathy for others that defines their mindset. So where and how is the ‘higher self’ operating within these individuals? Or does it just magically spring forth after death? And if so, what a pointless exercise!!

Look to the satanic elite- do they seem the least bit perturbed about future consequences of their actions, in the spiritual dimensions? Do they fear ‘judgement’? One must assume that they have access to more information, pieces of the puzzle etc than we do- we know the Vatican alone has sequestered away unimaginable amounts of information pertaining to our human history.

What are they hiding, and how has it informed their actions?

I'm putting to you that the same dynamics we see playing out every day in nature, all around you- the weak get eaten- either by larger predators or smaller parasitical entities seizing advantage of any weakness in the biological organism- those same dynamics are operating on a larger scale also. Humans are NOT at the top of the food chain. Much as we require food for energy, higher dimensional beings also require sustenance- very likely in the form of our life force or 'soul' or 'spirit' or whatever label you want to give it.

Humans did NOT simply evolve from a chemical soup billions of years ago, to become the highly complex organisms we are today. Even Darwin had to acknowledge the ludicrousness of suggesting that an eyeball alone could simply 'evolve' via random mutation and natural selection. It's bullshit.

So if we didn't evolve- who put us here? And WHY??

“So in order to really understand the literature and the implications of it - you must somehow account for this change in perspective, change in reference points, and the fact that this is an entirely enhanced state of being (state of awareness) in which these experiences are playing out. You can't get an accurate reading and understanding for what is transpiring and the implications of it all if you try to process it all from the awareness and prespective of primarily being identified with your human character/identity as one's source of self.”

I would totally agree with this, and say that once we’re released from the limiting confines of our 3D physical body, our awareness expands way beyond the limited sensory experience we’re subjected to on Earth. And that is my point- given that we’re far more expansive in terms of our consciousness than the Earth experience allows, one has to ask- why is that?? Of what benefit is it, in spiritual terms, to be operating on a limiting system? Akin to running, I don’t know- say windows 10 on a commodore 64 or something- you get the analogy.

So how odd then, that there just so happens to be these ‘beings’ ready and waiting to ‘guide us’ huh? To steer us, like a sheepdog corrals the sheep, back into the pen.

“Commonly people report being told that they had to return to their body and their human experience because there was still work to be done and experiences to be had. Not that they had to 'live another life' or that once they really died they would have to repeat this experience.“


Yes and commonly these same people report absolutely NOT wanting to return to their earthly bodies, and many also report feeling a sense of anger, abandonment, and rejection because of their ‘dismissal’ from the ‘heavenly realms’.

In terms of repeating the experience, i.e., reincarnation, obviously that kind of information cannot come from NDE reports because it’s a later stage in the process- by which time the experiencer would indeed be… dead. Insight into that aspect came primarily from hypnotic inductions- the Michael Newton books for example. But also, abduction reports and the fact that reincarnation was a tenet of pretty much all the religions, including original Christianity (before it was omitted from the Biblical canon). The topic has intrigued certain respected researchers who've followed up the accounts of little children reporting on their previous life, how they died, where they lived etc... only to find amazing correlations that go way beyond the realms of 'chance'. The reincarnation literature is fascinating and very persuasive.

“Think about it, if there are a multitude of dimensions (dimensional environments) to experience as part of your larger existence - how would one gain access to experience them? By way of physical accomplishments in this physical world? By way of choosing a certain religion and claiming certain ideological beliefs?

Or how about by way of refining and evolving one's state of consciousness and state of awareness - and thereby literally changing one's conscious energy (soul) in the process and unlocking new perceptions. How about by elevating/enhancing one's ability to feel and express the various virtues?”


NDE reports pretty much unanimously state that the experiencers had a sense of ‘all knowing’ once freed from the confines of the physical. What I’m putting to you is that THAT is ALREADY our natural state and we DO NOT need to experience life on Earth to ‘unlock new perceptions’... I mean our perceptions in terms of the full range of ‘reality’ available to us are quite frankly laughable! We perceive but a tiny slither of the full EM spectrum and at present science postulates that 96% of the universe (or thereabouts) is composed of dark matter and dark energy. In other words… who the fuck knows.

In terms of learning from our experiences with others… meh. Sorry but just that. What’s the expression? No good deed goes unpunished? How was Jesus rewarded for offering his insights to the world?? And in the intervening 2000-odd years, has the nature of human behaviour really changed so much? Have we stopped stoning people to death, raping, torturing, abusing, murdering? So IF this was about soul evolution, about refinement of the spirit akin to the alchemist’s ‘lead into gold’ analogy… wouldn’t you think that we’d be seeing some kind of evidence for that by now??

At no point in all of human history has humanity EVER been at ‘peace’. We’re no more AT PEACE now than we were thousands of years ago- so whatever this HIGHER SPIRITUAL PLAN is, it ain’t exactly working- is it?

I’m not using cap locks to shout or be aggressive, but just to emphasize certain points :)

I’ll try and reply to the rest of your message later as I’ve no time now- but genuinely I appreciate bouncing ideas around on this because it’s a pretty big deal hahaha!

Honestly a bit of research into the high strangeness of the moon etc, like I say- something very fucky is afoot if you ask me...
 
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