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Notes from the Second Earth: "The Greatest Story Never Told" The End of Deception (page 33)

 
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Alex grey is one of my favorites! ;)

Here’s one I love: [link to cdn.alexgrey.com (secure)]

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I have that one signed and doodled (pyramid with eye)

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My only concern...

With all these red pills we are ingesting, we are now paying attention when mainstream instruction is "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"

There may be no turning back once we cross past the curtain and see the man behind the curtain orchestrating.

Follow the flat wabbit.
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To each his own I guess!

Follow your heart. ;)
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Alex grey is one of my favorites! ;)

Here’s one I love: [link to cdn.alexgrey.com (secure)]

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I have that one signed and doodled (pyramid with eye)
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I have his books! One signed.

I always wanted to go to his “Hall of Mirrors”. Maybe someday.
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B-E-A-utiful

Field Trip! afro
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B-E-A-utiful

Field Trip! afro
 Quoting: SpawnX


That would be f-u-n!!!
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...


Spend Less time watching rubbish theories what you cant prove and more time sorting your family out and getting your car back.

I cant believe you let your 'friend' take your dream car. The threads car! Total nool.
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Heheh! He's not my friend. And it was just a rust bucket of a car. Good riddance. hf

Thanks for your advice.

It seems though that you forget this is all entertainment, and this site is, for all purposes, a conspiracy theory site.
Some people ponder conspiracy theories to relax, meanwhile sorting their lives out.
 Quoting: tuuur


Thanks Tuuur, you are right, I did forget this is all entertainment, mainly because I was way to busy taking all this stuff seriously and making progress instead of wasting my time.

I find that people when people ponder conspiracy theories their mental state changes from one of creativity to one of depression.

In my opinion if you relax long enough you lose the things you care about.
 Quoting: LKing


Could be! For me it sometimes works the other way around.

I am definitely not finding that I am losing the things I care about. Quite the opposite.

Right now I am drawing another portrait.
I do have an actual, creative life besides this forum, and today was a good day.
 Quoting: tuuur


I'm sure sometimes it does Tuur.

Ok, if you say so my friend, if you say so.

Post the portrait! Lets see your creative side!

Today better be the best day you have had in a long while.
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So Leking, what do you think about flat earth? If anything.
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Well, years ago when it was relevant i thought the theories were sound, did not the world believe it was flat until very recently?

I will say this though, the logic behind the game is great, so this is just a stepping stone to underatanding the flat line theory.
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You mean Santa's... not real??
 Quoting: Cat Carel

Not exactly the tooth fairy, but I would not be surprised if it diminished trust in a 'higher power'. After all, Santa appears on Jesus' supposed birthday.

An interesting comment from a blogger:

"The practice of building and then destroying the Santa Claus mythology within a child's mind is an effective way of destroying children's faith in their own imagination. Children inevitably learn that Santa is a lie, and when they do they feel tricked. In order to avoid feeling this way again, they avoid using their imagination. They will most likely be more skeptical and close-minded to fantastical ideas, concepts and alternate realities."

And, so, we find out that the guy who was responsible for Santa Claus becoming so popular in the West was an individual named John Pintard.

From the Book of the AOC:

Pintard was an active Freemason, serving as Master for his Lodge in New York. Perhaps his greatest contribution to American society, however, was his role in establishing the modern popular conception of Santa Claus based upon the Dutch legend of Sinterklaas.

Why am I not surprised?
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Very interesting video on the possibility that Antarctica is not a continent but a barrier.


 Quoting: tuuur

Thanks for the video.

Apparently the ISS balloon feed goes offline every 90 minutes for 40 minutes. Strange.

Supposedly, it takes them 90 minutes to circle the Earth. Magically, it travels 17,500 miles an hour and never, ever hits any one of the "500,000 pieces of deadly space junk", among other things in space.

I guess that's why they're referred to as 'Never A Straight Answer'
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Maria has WiFi to lower earth?

or is there a disconnect
 Quoting: SpawnX

What do you mean?
 Quoting: Taom


Did Maria leave you notes via the internet?

or

Did Maria cross over from upper earth (Antarctica passage) and drop knowledge face to face?

Or~

She communicated with you with the power of the mind.

BUT

How did Maria upload notes on your computer.. Power of the-
 Quoting: SpawnX

She used what I can only describe as thought-machines, or mental technology. The result is based on my interpretation. Sometimes she would 'wipe the slate clean' with new mind crafts if the previous one had served its purpose (of creating new pathways for more clear interpretation). But that has not happened for a while so I suppose I'm making some good progress.
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Taom

Can you string together some words that will undeniable cause a paradigm shift for a round earther. Anything better then just “look into it” Whats the best sentence/s I can deliver to a sworn round earther?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Plane versus globe Earth isn't that important, I think. There is evidence to support both.

There is no one idea that would settle the matter once and for all, as many of these have been presented. At the core of the matter is prejudices and beliefs. It's not about evidence. The 'globe Earth' proponents have had hundreds of years to evolve their arguments.

Light diffraction is one example. (Even though it works differently than they say. They just throw some complicated math until it fits.)

A person can think logically about it if they're wondering which is more 'true'. For example:

1) Does NASA use fish-eye lenses to distort the shape of the Earth? If so, why?

2) Why do NASA's official photos of the Earth over the past 20 years vary so wildly. Why, for example, in one 'official photo' does the United States appear to take up about 30% of the Earth's surface?

3) Why would NASA need to doctor images of the Earth, as has been shown?

4) Why have more than 74 NASA scientists died in the past couple of years?

5) Why do ISS 'astronauts' only answer questions from children? Why do they allow water to float around the station so liberally (when entertaining for the kids) right next to open power supplies?

6) If space is a vacuum as they say, how did the supposed astronauts landing on the moon use rockets and combustion?

7) How reasonable an explanation is it that NASA cannot go back to the Moon because they 'lost' the technology to do so? Does it seem plausible that they also lost all telemetry data, as they claim, as well as just about everything else, including original footage?

There is plenty of evidence to suggest that NASA did not go to the Moon. This will continue to be ignored because the average person doesn't really care for evidence.

If there is deception in government and society, does it exist at multiple levels, or just at a low level? What might a high level of deception look like? Is it reasonable to assume that high levels of deception exist, and that we would not be aware of what they are?

Are lies usually defended? If 'the establishment' wanted to hide something, would they defend a lie? If so, would they defend it with evidence to support it?

If the lie was big, would it's defense be also?

Why is this particular thing so important for 'the establishment' to defend? People have all kinds of ideas about reality, politics, and the Earth. Why would they feel the need to attack 'flat Earthers' and not, for example, those who believe aliens live among us?

Why was it important for the BBC to release a video of celebrity James May "witnessing the curvature of Earth"? Why are there so many such videos?

Why does the idea of a flat Earth seem to offend them? To the point where search results are skewed, channels are deleted, and all manner of 'scientists' and personalities come out to defend a globe Earth?

Does it seem a little suspicious? If it is true, does it need that much defending?

Further, there is evidence to support a flat Earth and evidence to support a globe Earth. All evidence being equal, what is left? Incentive.

What incentive would there be to fake a flat Earth? Not much. It's novel.

What incentive would there be to fake a globe Earth? Lots, if we consider when the idea began to take shape.

Where does that thought lead?

Is there evidence that certain interests have been working to remove 'God' from people's lives, and have been doing that for centuries?

Is there a war on Christianity going on right now, and has there been for centuries?

How important would the concept of a 'globe Earth' be in that war? If the concept is central to the idea that the Bible is false, for example, would a tremendous amount of resources be dedicated to defending it? Perhaps even more resources that are being and have been used in the war against Christianity and Christian values?

That 'flat Earth' question will never be satisfied the way that 'flat Earthers' are going about it. They are focused on evidence.

There is all ready plenty of evidence for a massive deception in place. It would be easy to connect the dots. Especially when those parties defending the 'globe Earth' contradict themselves.

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Strange...

Since Japan is or was the only country in the world not significantly influenced by "6-6-6". Also the most civilized country, and that is not a coincidence.
 Quoting: SpawnX

"...not significantly influenced"

It doesn't mean that they aren't influenced. Their government is, to a large degree. You have to play the game. But the culture and society are very difficult to penetrate. The kinds of things that work to diminish morality in the West don't work in Japan.

There's a big difference between Japan faking Moon footage and Western families being ripped apart, and the population thinking that it is progress.
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Very interesting video on the possibility that Antarctica is not a continent but a barrier.


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Spend Less time watching rubbish theories what you cant prove and more time sorting your family out and getting your car back.

I cant believe you let your 'friend' take your dream car. The threads car! Total nool.
 Quoting: LKing

You're a self-starter! Already managing the lives of other aspects of yourself :)

Could take a lot of energy, though.
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Very interesting video on the possibility that Antarctica is not a continent but a barrier.


 Quoting: tuuur


Spend Less time watching rubbish theories what you cant prove and more time sorting your family out and getting your car back.

I cant believe you let your 'friend' take your dream car. The threads car! Total nool.
 Quoting: LKing

You're a self-starter! Already managing the lives of other aspects of yourself :)

Could take a lot of energy, though.
 Quoting: Taom


You know me Toam, my pace is my pace.

Most def on the energy...however, Bosses make boss moves, you know the laws of the matrix, what you get out is exactly equal to what you input.
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Taom

Can you string together some words that will undeniable cause a paradigm shift for a round earther. Anything better then just “look into it” Whats the best sentence/s I can deliver to a sworn round earther?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Plane versus globe Earth isn't that important, I think. There is evidence to support both.

There is no one idea that would settle the matter once and for all, as many of these have been presented. At the core of the matter is prejudices and beliefs. It's not about evidence. The 'globe Earth' proponents have had hundreds of years to evolve their arguments.

Light diffraction is one example. (Even though it works differently than they say. They just throw some complicated math until it fits.)

A person can think logically about it if they're wondering which is more 'true'. For example:

1) Does NASA use fish-eye lenses to distort the shape of the Earth? If so, why?

2) Why do NASA's official photos of the Earth over the past 20 years vary so wildly. Why, for example, in one 'official photo' does the United States appear to take up about 30% of the Earth's surface?

3) Why would NASA need to doctor images of the Earth, as has been shown?

4) Why have more than 74 NASA scientists died in the past couple of years?

5) Why do ISS 'astronauts' only answer questions from children? Why do they allow water to float around the station so liberally (when entertaining for the kids) right next to open power supplies?

6) If space is a vacuum as they say, how did the supposed astronauts landing on the moon use rockets and combustion?

7) How reasonable an explanation is it that NASA cannot go back to the Moon because they 'lost' the technology to do so? Does it seem plausible that they also lost all telemetry data, as they claim, as well as just about everything else, including original footage?

There is plenty of evidence to suggest that NASA did not go to the Moon. This will continue to be ignored because the average person doesn't really care for evidence.

If there is deception in government and society, does it exist at multiple levels, or just at a low level? What might a high level of deception look like? Is it reasonable to assume that high levels of deception exist, and that we would not be aware of what they are?

Are lies usually defended? If 'the establishment' wanted to hide something, would they defend a lie? If so, would they defend it with evidence to support it?

If the lie was big, would it's defense be also?

Why is this particular thing so important for 'the establishment' to defend? People have all kinds of ideas about reality, politics, and the Earth. Why would they feel the need to attach 'flat Earthers' and not, for example, those who believe aliens live among us?

Why was it important for the BBC to release a video of celebrity James May "witnessing the curvature of Earth"? Why are there so many such videos?

Why does the idea of a flat Earth seem to offend them? To the point where search results are skewed, channels are deleted, and all manner of 'scientists' and personalities come out to defend a globe Earth?

Does it seem a little suspicious? If it is true, does it need that much defending?

Further, there is evidence to support a flat Earth and evidence to support a globe Earth. All evidence being equal, what is left? Incentive.

What incentive would there be to fake a flat Earth? Not much. It's novel.

What incentive would there be to fake a globe Earth? Lots, if we consider when the idea began to take shape.

Where does that thought lead?

Is there evidence that certain interests have been working to remove 'God' from people's lives, and have been doing that for centuries?

Is there a war on Christianity going on right now, and has there been for centuries?

How important would the concept of a 'globe Earth' be in that war? If the concept is central to the idea that the Bible is false, for example, would a tremendous amount of resources be dedicated to defending it? Perhaps even more resources that are being and have been used in the war against Christianity and Christian values?

That 'flat Earth' question will never be satisfied the way that 'flat Earthers' are going about it. They are focused on evidence.

There is all ready plenty of evidence for a massive deception in place. It would be easy to connect the dots. Especially when those parties defending the 'globe Earth' contradict themselves.
 Quoting: Taom


Good post.
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I have seen the curvature with my own eyes. Maybe what we see and what is aren’t always accurate perceptions of what is. I don’t know.
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NASA must really think people are stupid. Nothing about this "high resolution photo" looks real. Look at the size of the US!

[link to ca.news.yahoo.com (secure)]

Now compare with a Mercator map of the Earth, considered to be the most accurate way to depict the continents: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
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I have seen the curvature with my own eyes. Maybe what we see and what is aren’t always accurate perceptions of what is. I don’t know.
 Quoting: ViVarium

How did you see it?

And if you're looking at the sky and it is blue, what color is the sky?
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For those who don't know about the 440hz music that nearly everyone listens to:



I guess the rhetorical question would follow... why was it so important to change the worldwide 'standard' of music from 432hz to 440hz? What was the benefit?

(If you're interested, you can change your music in bulk in the Audacity program. There are some YouTube videos explaining how to do this.)
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So Leking, what do you think about flat earth? If anything.
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Well, years ago when it was relevant i thought the theories were sound, did not the world believe it was flat until very recently?

I will say this though, the logic behind the game is great, so this is just a stepping stone to underatanding the flat line theory.
 Quoting: LKing


Yes. That is true. Relatively speaking, globe earth is the "new" idea.

So grateful for stepping stones!

hf
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For those who don't know about the 440hz music that nearly everyone listens to:



I guess the rhetorical question would follow... why was it so important to change the worldwide 'standard' of music from 432hz to 440hz? What was the benefit?

(If you're interested, you can change your music in bulk in the Audacity program. There are some YouTube videos explaining how to do this.)
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I don't know if I would call it a benefit, but I think it was to change our vibration, our resonance. I have often wondered the same question. Why? Why would they do this? Why do they do everything they do? Definitely feels nefarious.




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So Leking, what do you think about flat earth? If anything.
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Well, years ago when it was relevant i thought the theories were sound, did not the world believe it was flat until very recently?

I will say this though, the logic behind the game is great, so this is just a stepping stone to underatanding the flat line theory.
 Quoting: LKing


Yes. That is true. Relatively speaking, globe earth is the "new" idea.

So grateful for stepping stones!

hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Yeah ;) hf

Keep on steppin! Upper earth is only a step up ;);)
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So Leking, what do you think about flat earth? If anything.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Well, years ago when it was relevant i thought the theories were sound, did not the world believe it was flat until very recently?

I will say this though, the logic behind the game is great, so this is just a stepping stone to underatanding the flat line theory.
 Quoting: LKing


Yes. That is true. Relatively speaking, globe earth is the "new" idea.

So grateful for stepping stones!

hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Yeah ;) hf

Keep on steppin! Upper earth is only a step up ;);)
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Agreed!!! Can’t stop moving! Life is not static!
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Well, years ago when it was relevant i thought the theories were sound, did not the world believe it was flat until very recently?

I will say this though, the logic behind the game is great, so this is just a stepping stone to underatanding the flat line theory.
 Quoting: LKing


Yes. That is true. Relatively speaking, globe earth is the "new" idea.

So grateful for stepping stones!

hf
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


Yeah ;) hf

Keep on steppin! Upper earth is only a step up ;);)
 Quoting: LKing


Agreed!!! Can’t stop moving! Life is not static!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

You couldn't stop it, even if you thought you could.

The game moves forward regardless...

If you take to much time out of your day making relationships to destruction whilst those around you are focusing in creation you are literally worlds apart and get left behind.

Creation has a certain pace to it, as do we all, which is why some people are compatable and some are not, they live at different paces.

Some people create faster than others, so it determines the level of time taken to create said creation. The game will always allow you to create what you can perceive though...you just Can't stop moving!
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For those who don't know about the 440hz music that nearly everyone listens to:



I guess the rhetorical question would follow... why was it so important to change the worldwide 'standard' of music from 432hz to 440hz? What was the benefit?

(If you're interested, you can change your music in bulk in the Audacity program. There are some YouTube videos explaining how to do this.)
 Quoting: Taom


I don't know if I would call it a benefit, but I think it was to change our vibration, our resonance. I have often wondered the same question. Why? Why would they do this? Why do they do everything they do? Definitely feels nefarious.


 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Well, 440 is considered 'concert pitch', which was supposedly better than lower pitches like 435 or 432 for orchestras of multiple instruments. I guess it made sense to keep travelling orchestras in tune at the time.

But music is distributed globally and has been for a while, so that really shouldn't be a concern these days.

It might be one of those things where we picked a standard and then stuck with it (like using feet instead of meters). Taken by itself, the explanation seems reasonable. In context with so many other things we absorb every day that are dictated by international standards (such as WiFi or cellular networks), it begins to look conspiratorial despite all of the 'reasonable' explanations provided.

Nefarious entities provide 'reasonable' explanations as a default, I think.

That's why we'll never 'win' by looking at the evidence for the thing itself. That's what Chaos wants us to do. Each opposing side has evidence to support their position, yet they benefit from having their position supported by known authorities. We would need to look for evidence of any kind of deception, instead, and then determine the reason for the deception. Because it is highly unlikely that both sides are being equally deceptive.
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B-E-A-utiful

Field Trip! afro
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That would be f-u-n!!!
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

How about we take a little trip to the Upper Earth?

We can use Robert Monroe's instructions on having out-of-body experiences and supplement it with our own suggestions that might help. Just search for 'Robert Monroe's Technique for Triggering Out-of-Body Experiences'

If we can find an easy way for the average person to have even the slightest bit of experience with a greater reality, it might actually 'change the world'.

Let's see if we can get it down to just 2-3 steps.

It would be a technology that cannot be stopped or censored. It wouldn't depend on electricity or networks and be as mobile as you are.

Anyone up for it?

Once we have a method that produces even a little bit of something, we turn it into an easy graphic and distribute far and wide.
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Taom

Can you string together some words that will undeniable cause a paradigm shift for a round earther. Anything better then just “look into it” Whats the best sentence/s I can deliver to a sworn round earther?
 Quoting: SpawnX

Let's try a question, instead.

You: Are you 100% sure that the Earth is a globe?
Friend: Yes, of course.
You: Is it scientific to be 100% sure about anything scientific?

Let me know how your friend responds :)
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Re: Notes from the Second Earth: "The Greatest Story Never Told" The End of Deception (page 33)
How about picturing a mirror in your mind and attempting to view the mirror of yourself as well as yourself from the perspective of the mirror.

The mirror could then be replaced with the upper earth once you get a hang of what the exercise feels like within your mind.
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Re: Notes from the Second Earth: "The Greatest Story Never Told" The End of Deception (page 33)
B-E-A-utiful

Field Trip! afro
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That would be f-u-n!!!
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How about we take a little trip to the Upper Earth?

We can use Robert Monroe's instructions on having out-of-body experiences and supplement it with our own suggestions that might help. Just search for 'Robert Monroe's Technique for Triggering Out-of-Body Experiences'

If we can find an easy way for the average person to have even the slightest bit of experience with a greater reality, it might actually 'change the world'.

Let's see if we can get it down to just 2-3 steps.

It would be a technology that cannot be stopped or censored. It wouldn't depend on electricity or networks and be as mobile as you are.

Anyone up for it?

Once we have a method that produces even a little bit of something, we turn it into an easy graphic and distribute far and wide.
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I would certainly be up for that.
But I tried quite a few times and only got to the vibrations once. Another obe occurred accidentally one time when I woke up.

I want to learn to do that a long time already though.
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I have seen the curvature with my own eyes. Maybe what we see and what is aren’t always accurate perceptions of what is. I don’t know.
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How did you see it?

And if you're looking at the sky and it is blue, what color is the sky?
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On a plane after take off going east to west toward the sunset which I saw clear as day on a round horizon. It was incredible and the first time I had ever seen that with my eyes so truly remarkable to me. One of those moments that you realize are rare and you try to take it all in. It was dark in Florida flying toward sunset in California.





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