Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight | |
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Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 77181003 United States 12/16/2018 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight Anyone questioning the 17+ hours of daylight, check this live cam from Ushuaia, Argentina . You can proceed with the live stream or select 24hrs at the top and run through the recording. In 24 hours there is only about 3 hours of total darkness, the rest is daylight or twilight. No FE model can explain it. [link to www.webcams.travel (secure)] Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 12/16/2018 07:20 PM |
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Question, Mark
User ID: 77125760 United States 12/16/2018 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight There's a book, a Classic, named "The Uttermost Part Of The Earth." It was written by a man born in that area of British parents. He writes about living in that region of the world, during his childhood and adult life. His family settled that area and intermingled with the native people, learning their language and culture. Not once did he mention anything about weeks without sunlight, what to speak of long days of sunlight either. This portrays light, but it does not show the actual Sun itself. If this video is not doctored, all it shows is that there is some type of light source, the same I have seen in Iceland, at the later part of the month of April. There you also see a type of fused light, even though there is no actual Sun visible. I found it hard to see shadows showing light from a moving source, such as the Sun would give you. The light almost seemed stationary. Just saying', trying to be objective, not making any decision on whether this proves one thing or another. |
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Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 77181003 United States 12/17/2018 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight You'll have better luck talking to the drying paint on your wall than to convince a flat headed earth tard of anything logical. Quoting: iSwear FACT!!! I can't disagree, particularly since I just got a drive by red karma with no post to my thread. Obviously got several 1 star bandits as well. But I was hoping that a simple fact of day lights hours might, just might activate those few, remaining objective neurons they might have. Since to this point in my thread, I have not seen even one logical attempt to rebut this fact, maybe so, but that is optimistic for sure. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 12/17/2018 08:53 AM |
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Swayed
User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight Websites that track the hours of sunlight visible in a day are flat out wrong. I have proven this where I live gets over 18 hours of visible sunlight in the summer ( which for me is proof of a closer and smaller sun ) yet in the winter we get less than 10. However any website that tracks sunset/sunrise time is INCORRECT and does not match up to what I see. This only makes sense on a flat earth with a sun moving over our heads. Until I can go to Argentina myself to observe the suns position in the sky, and note the actual amount of hours I can see visible light, I will not believe anything on a website. Furthermore where i live should get 12 hours of sunlight and night each day, even in the summer or winter, regardless of the "tilt" I have proven this using a globe and light, what we see each day with the sun does not match up to what we should see on a globe earth. |
Swayed
User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight You'll have better luck talking to the drying paint on your wall than to convince a flat headed earth tard of anything logical. Quoting: iSwear FACT!!! I can't disagree, particularly since I just got a drive by red karma with no post to my thread. Obviously got several 1 star bandits as well. But I was hoping that a simple fact of day lights hours might, just might activate those few, remaining objective neurons they might have. Since to this point in my thread, I have not seen even one logical attempt to rebut this fact, maybe so, but that is optimistic for sure. I've had 4 accounts deleted for questioning dr astro and space and NASA and promoting flat earth on this forum. It's clearly sided with the establishment here I've also had all those accounts bombarded with red karma even though I bring clear concise arguments against a ball earth and space travel. This logic is fail. |
Swayed
User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. |
Swayed
User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight Not to mention the sun is observably faster in the winter. It has to travel a greater distance over our flat plane, so it makes sense it has to speed up. This is observable, I watch it everyday. I spend a lot of time outdoors all year and watch the sun. The sun is the main reason why I believe in a flat motionless earth and sun that's smaller and closer and moving over us. |
Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 77181003 United States 12/17/2018 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight Websites that track the hours of sunlight visible in a day are flat out wrong. Quoting: Swayed I have proven this where I live gets over 18 hours of visible sunlight in the summer ( which for me is proof of a closer and smaller sun ) yet in the winter we get less than 10. However any website that tracks sunset/sunrise time is INCORRECT and does not match up to what I see. This only makes sense on a flat earth with a sun moving over our heads. Until I can go to Argentina myself to observe the suns position in the sky, and note the actual amount of hours I can see visible light, I will not believe anything on a website. Furthermore where i live should get 12 hours of sunlight and night each day, even in the summer or winter, regardless of the "tilt" I have proven this using a globe and light, what we see each day with the sun does not match up to what we should see on a globe earth. Where do you live in the US, that you should get 12 hours of daylight regardless of time of year. You would have to be living at the equator for that to be true. I posted a live cam link from Ushuaia, Argentina. It confirms the 17 hours of daylight this time of year. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 12/17/2018 09:14 AM |
Swayed
User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight Websites that track the hours of sunlight visible in a day are flat out wrong. Quoting: Swayed I have proven this where I live gets over 18 hours of visible sunlight in the summer ( which for me is proof of a closer and smaller sun ) yet in the winter we get less than 10. However any website that tracks sunset/sunrise time is INCORRECT and does not match up to what I see. This only makes sense on a flat earth with a sun moving over our heads. Until I can go to Argentina myself to observe the suns position in the sky, and note the actual amount of hours I can see visible light, I will not believe anything on a website. Furthermore where i live should get 12 hours of sunlight and night each day, even in the summer or winter, regardless of the "tilt" I have proven this using a globe and light, what we see each day with the sun does not match up to what we should see on a globe earth. Where do you live in the US, that you should get 12 hours of daylight regardless of time of year. You would have to be living at the equator for that to be true. I posted a live cam link from Ushuaia, Argentina. It confirms the 17 hours of daylight this time of year. Sorry until I can go to Argentina and see for myself I don't believe anything on the internet. I'm also not going to tell you my exact location but I have done experiments with the globe and a light and my location should receive equal amounts of sunlight and night each day, 12 hours, regardless of the tilt. No you would not have to be living at the equator to get 12 hours of light and night each day, there are several places where that would happen. |
Swayed
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Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 77181003 United States 12/17/2018 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. Quoting: Swayed here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. |
Swayed
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User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. Quoting: Swayed here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. Not "directly overhead" but damn close. And still getting 24 hours of sunlight and heat for 6 months out of the year. This does not reflect in the average temps and weather that is observed in those regions. Last Edited by Swayed on 12/17/2018 09:21 AM |
Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 12/17/2018 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight the earth is a giant spinning CD-Rom Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Swayed
User ID: 42079668 United States 12/17/2018 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. Quoting: Swayed here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. Yet at the equator or at barrow alaska it's still 93 million miles to the sun. So directly facing the sun at the same distance away, for 6 months out of the year, should make the average temps rise dramatically. So why the dramatic change in temp between the equator and alaska, when they are both 93 million miles from the sun? |
Swayed
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Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 77181003 United States 12/17/2018 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. Quoting: Swayed here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. Yet at the equator or at barrow alaska it's still 93 million miles to the sun. So directly facing the sun at the same distance away, for 6 months out of the year, should make the average temps rise dramatically. So why the dramatic change in temp between the equator and alaska, when they are both 93 million miles from the sun? Take a flashlight and pointed directly at a piece of paper and the notice the light intensity. Now while maintaining the distance, tilt the flashlight 45 degrees. The light spreads out over the paper and is has less intensity. Same with sunlight hitting the equator vs Alaska. Gotta run. Check back later. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 12/17/2018 09:30 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77198412 United States 12/17/2018 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. Quoting: Swayed here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. Yet at the equator or at barrow alaska it's still 93 million miles to the sun. So directly facing the sun at the same distance away, for 6 months out of the year, should make the average temps rise dramatically. So why the dramatic change in temp between the equator and alaska, when they are both 93 million miles from the sun? Bad error in thinking.. it would depend on the tilt and the shape of the ball that is earth. They are not exactly the same distance... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77198412 United States 12/17/2018 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight The planet is a sphere because of the pressure of cold space which is even and always makes orbs round. A pizza crust earth is not possible. Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL Op the tilt of the axis is varies .... at equinox there is no tilt.. the planet is straight up and down for a day or so and then the tilt begins to move the other direction... its not a constant in other words.. except perhaps at solstic. |
Works4Me
User ID: 63594739 United States 12/17/2018 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I give you barrow alaska, the most northern city of the US. Quoting: Swayed here's some of the weather: [link to www.google.com (secure)] Average temps of 40 and 50 in the summer with snow in the summer as well. Yet this town is supposed to be pointed directly towards the sun for 6 months out of the year? This supports a closer and smaller sun that locally illuminates and heats. The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. Yet at the equator or at barrow alaska it's still 93 million miles to the sun. So directly facing the sun at the same distance away, for 6 months out of the year, should make the average temps rise dramatically. So why the dramatic change in temp between the equator and alaska, when they are both 93 million miles from the sun? Take a flashlight and pointed directly at a piece of paper and the notice the light intensity. Now while maintaining the distance, tilt the flashlight 45 degrees. The light spreads out over the paper and is has less intensity. Same with sunlight hitting the equator vs Alaska. Gotta run. Check back later. OP bailed pretty quickly. One wouldn't start a thread like this and leave so soon lol. I could never reconcile the difference in temps as a function of global tilt. As a percentage difference between equator and north pole and distance to sun, it does not seem logical there would be so much variance. Curvature of earth measurements similarly does not work out with current math. And finally, shills like dr asshole and this guy do little to support their confident assertions. Personally, I don't give a shit one way or another. WHo cares? Just seems like another pontless distraction for people to argue about Six foot girl gonna sweat when she dig Stand close to the fire, when they light the pig |
NM 156
User ID: 60856677 United States 12/17/2018 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight Not to mention the sun is observably faster in the winter. Quoting: Swayed It has to travel a greater distance over our flat plane, so it makes sense it has to speed up. This is observable, I watch it everyday. I spend a lot of time outdoors all year and watch the sun. The sun is the main reason why I believe in a flat motionless earth and sun that's smaller and closer and moving over us. This ^ The Sun's position in the sky and speed change throughout the year. Tilt? Spinning? Elliptical orbit? I'm watching the Sun right now - it's moving, we are not. Look around, is this the end that you have foreseen? The pain, the misery in us all What was it that you knew? Will we one day learn it too? And together build another way, to the morning Or will it ever come again? You've poisoned all our hopes We have nothing now, and what of the children? What has this done to them? Damn you for the pain that they must feel... |
NM 156
User ID: 60856677 United States 12/17/2018 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight North Pole = Center Look around, is this the end that you have foreseen? The pain, the misery in us all What was it that you knew? Will we one day learn it too? And together build another way, to the morning Or will it ever come again? You've poisoned all our hopes We have nothing now, and what of the children? What has this done to them? Damn you for the pain that they must feel... |
clueless and then some
User ID: 76626373 Costa Rica 12/17/2018 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight ... Quoting: Remedial_Rebel The only part of the earth that sees the sun directly overhead is between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The sun is never overhead in Barrow Alaska. Yet at the equator or at barrow alaska it's still 93 million miles to the sun. So directly facing the sun at the same distance away, for 6 months out of the year, should make the average temps rise dramatically. So why the dramatic change in temp between the equator and alaska, when they are both 93 million miles from the sun? Take a flashlight and pointed directly at a piece of paper and the notice the light intensity. Now while maintaining the distance, tilt the flashlight 45 degrees. The light spreads out over the paper and is has less intensity. Same with sunlight hitting the equator vs Alaska. Gotta run. Check back later. OP bailed pretty quickly. One wouldn't start a thread like this and leave so soon lol. I could never reconcile the difference in temps as a function of global tilt. As a percentage difference between equator and north pole and distance to sun, it does not seem logical there would be so much variance. Curvature of earth measurements similarly does not work out with current math. And finally, shills like dr asshole and this guy do little to support their confident assertions. Personally, I don't give a shit one way or another. WHo cares? Just seems like another pontless distraction for people to argue about BINGO!!! clueless and then some |
Patagonians
User ID: 77209979 Argentina 12/17/2018 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Simple Hard Empirical Evidence That Disproves Flat Earth Beliefs, Ushuaia, Argentina has 17+ Hrs of daylight I go fishing down there every summer and it's impossible to sleep without good blinds or putting a tarp over your tent. And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "Just another soldier reporting, Sir. Ive served my time in Hell" |