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3643297
User ID: 76832232 United States 12/23/2018 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? I never realized that before. Interesting. Seems obvious why churches would arbitrarily pick a 10% rule from Deuteronomy to follow today but not all the rest of it that there. |
Victor Vectors
(OP) User ID: 71388910 United States 12/23/2018 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? I never realized that before. Interesting. Quoting: 3643297 Seems obvious why churches would arbitrarily pick a 10% rule from Deuteronomy to follow today but not all the rest of it that there. With God's 3 year cycle it comes out to us giving God, 3.33% of our income per year, that is more than reasonable and fair I might add. However the Churches are ripping people off by 6.66% per year, a familiar number to us. Last Edited by Victor Vectors on 12/23/2018 10:19 AM |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77212427 United States 12/23/2018 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Tithing is not required of the body of Christ... Paul tells us we are to give as we are prompted by the Holy Spirit... Tithing was required of the Priesthood as part of their law...Only Paul addresses the Body of Christ... freedomsnotfree1 |
Victor Vectors
(OP) User ID: 71388910 United States 12/23/2018 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Tithing is not required of the body of Christ... Paul tells us we are to give as we are prompted by the Holy Spirit... Tithing was required of the Priesthood as part of their law...Only Paul addresses the Body of Christ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I wouldn't argue with you on that point, what I do argue is the HEAVY WEIGHT the current churches place on parishioners, a heavy weight they can sometimes not lift with 10% per year tithing teachings. |
Victor Vectors
(OP) User ID: 71388910 United States 12/23/2018 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? BTW - the TV televangelists always offer guilt if you do not give them 10%, they say God will bless you if you give them 10%. Televangelist Jesse Duplantis seeks $54M private jet [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
3643297
User ID: 76832232 United States 12/23/2018 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Some preachers include as part of their prosperity gospel, as you give so shall you receive with your containers running over with the excess of goodies. Like a spiritual law of the universe. |
Victor Vectors
(OP) User ID: 71388910 United States 12/23/2018 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Some preachers include as part of their prosperity gospel, as you give so shall you receive with your containers running over with the excess of goodies. Like a spiritual law of the universe. Quoting: 3643297 Yes they do, the bastards! Bullshitters and thieves the lot of them. They wouldn't know Jesus Christ if he was right in front of them. Last Edited by Victor Vectors on 12/23/2018 10:34 AM |
Truth Reaper
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freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77212427 United States 12/23/2018 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Tithing is not required of the body of Christ... Paul tells us we are to give as we are prompted by the Holy Spirit... Tithing was required of the Priesthood as part of their law...Only Paul addresses the Body of Christ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I wouldn't argue with you on that point, what I do argue is the HEAVY WEIGHT the current churches place on parishioners, a heavy weight they can sometimes not lift with 10% per year tithing teachings. religion is a huge business involving huge amounts of money...a religion and a relationship are to very different things...GOD loves you completely, right where you are...he doesn't need your money... "rightly divide the word of truth" my brother... what was true for the priesthood is not necessarily true for the body of Christ... tithing doesn't apply to us...we're not under the law... freedomsnotfree1 |
Victor Vectors
(OP) User ID: 71388910 United States 12/23/2018 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Tithing is not required of the body of Christ... Paul tells us we are to give as we are prompted by the Holy Spirit... Tithing was required of the Priesthood as part of their law...Only Paul addresses the Body of Christ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I wouldn't argue with you on that point, what I do argue is the HEAVY WEIGHT the current churches place on parishioners, a heavy weight they can sometimes not lift with 10% per year tithing teachings. religion is a huge business involving huge amounts of money...a religion and a relationship are to very different things...GOD loves you completely, right where you are...he doesn't need your money... "rightly divide the word of truth" my brother... what was true for the priesthood is not necessarily true for the body of Christ... tithing doesn't apply to us...we're not under the law... I agree with you, each gives as he or she can or would like to and where. However for our brothers and sisters young in spirit it may be a burden they are struggling with. I struggled becasue the Catholics never encouraged Bible study. I started one with a church of 300 families and one person other than the priest and myself showed up. Very sad indeed. Reading the book both Old and New testament opened my eyes to the perversion we are living in. [link to www.e-sword.net (secure)] |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77212427 United States 12/23/2018 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Tithing is not required of the body of Christ... Paul tells us we are to give as we are prompted by the Holy Spirit... Tithing was required of the Priesthood as part of their law...Only Paul addresses the Body of Christ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I wouldn't argue with you on that point, what I do argue is the HEAVY WEIGHT the current churches place on parishioners, a heavy weight they can sometimes not lift with 10% per year tithing teachings. religion is a huge business involving huge amounts of money...a religion and a relationship are to very different things...GOD loves you completely, right where you are...he doesn't need your money... "rightly divide the word of truth" my brother... what was true for the priesthood is not necessarily true for the body of Christ... tithing doesn't apply to us...we're not under the law... I agree with you, each gives as he or she can or would like to and where. However for our brothers and sisters young in spirit it may be a burden they are struggling with. I struggled becasue the Catholics never encouraged Bible study. I started one with a church of 300 families and one person other than the priest and myself showed up. Very sad indeed. Reading the book both Old and New testament opened my eyes to the perversion we are living in. [link to www.e-sword.net (secure)] Keep speaking the truth my brother...only the spirit can open the eyes of the unbelievers to truth, that is my prayer for the unbelieving world... Bless you and thank you for informing an uninformed world.. freedomsnotfree1 |
Victor Vectors
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67765500 United States 12/23/2018 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? The tithe was a requirement under the Law of Moses to support the priests of the Tribe of Levi who were NOT permitted to work as the other Tribes - their function was to service the Tabernacle. You christians need to make up your mind whether you are still subject to Mosaic Law or the teachings of Jesus. It’s NOT both. My personal advice, however, is to abandon ALL religion. It’s a mind prison. . |
freedomsnotfree1
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Yesterday ~ TODAY ~ Tomorrow
User ID: 76107349 United States 12/23/2018 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? BTW - the TV televangelists always offer guilt if you do not give them 10%, they say God will bless you if you give them 10%. Quoting: Victor Vectors Televangelist Jesse Duplantis seeks $54M private jet [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Theses evangelists along with many of their followers are possessed by the Money God, the real Hey Jesse, try YouTube instead — it’s a real bargain and environmentally more friendly. |
shoeshy
User ID: 77224286 United States 12/23/2018 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? The tithe was a requirement under the Law of Moses to support the priests of the Tribe of Levi who were NOT permitted to work as the other Tribes - their function was to service the Tabernacle. Quoting: Zovalex You christians need to make up your mind whether you are still subject to Mosaic Law or the teachings of Jesus. It’s NOT both. My personal advice, however, is to abandon ALL religion. It’s a mind prison. . Jesus Christ is Truth. Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed. Last Edited by shoeshy on 12/23/2018 11:35 AM |
Leftfoot
User ID: 77218288 Canada 12/23/2018 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? I once joined a Catholic Church, nice congregation nice Priest we all got along and I asked the Priest one day what I as a parishioner should give to the Church and he said 10% of annual income. I thought wow that seems like a big chunk since the government, federal, state and local take about 35% plus God's 10% leaves me with very little after rent, insurance, food and fuel. Quoting: Victor Vectors I used to beat myself up for being a cheap bastard when it came time to put my contribution in the basket or envelopes as was the case, I thought I was a crappy follower of Catholicism if it bothers me so much. I lived like this for years and years. I brought it up to the Priest and he stated it was part of the burden of being a Christian, do the best you can. That line, “do the best you can” caught me by surprise, is this man so humble or is he just being kind or is there some other reason? Years after that I read the Old Testament of the Bible. Then I came to Deuteronomy and The God of All Creations opened my eyes, I cried when I read it and was astonished by what I read. The 10% or “tithe” many preachers, priests and pastors like to bandy about is 10% of your income but spread out over a 3 year cycle. The First Year of the Cycle, you give the Lord your 10%, the Lord says take it back and take it with your parish and have a party. If not with your parish take your family for a party on the Lord's 10%, THAT IS CALLED VACATION ON 10% OF YOUR INCOME. The Second Year of the Cycle, you give the Lord your 10%, the Lord says take it back and take it with your parish and have a party. If not with your parish take your family for a party on the Lord's 10%, THAT IS CALLED VACATION ON 10% OF YOUR INCOME. The Third Year of the Cycle, you give your 10% to the pastors, priests and preachers plus the poor, widows and orphans. The following is the passage about the tithe in Deuteronomy; The Tithe "You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. And before the LORD your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always. And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the LORD your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the LORD your God chooses, to set his name there, then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the LORD your God chooses and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the LORD your God and rejoice, you and your household. And you shall not neglect the Levite (priests, pastors, preachers) who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you. "At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do. (Deuteronomy 14:22-29) Being ripped off? Takes a real sheep to hand money over to a cult organizer! skip the church , pop open a bible , SKIP THESE MIDDLE MEN! There's a pretty little thing Waiting for the King Down in the Jungle Room |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77212427 United States 12/23/2018 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? The tithe was a requirement under the Law of Moses to support the priests of the Tribe of Levi who were NOT permitted to work as the other Tribes - their function was to service the Tabernacle. Quoting: Zovalex You christians need to make up your mind whether you are still subject to Mosaic Law or the teachings of Jesus. It’s NOT both. My personal advice, however, is to abandon ALL religion. It’s a mind prison. . Jesus's earthly ministry was to the priesthood, under the law...nowhere did Jesus release them from the law... it was only after Israel rejected the priesthood that Christ turned to Paul with a completely different message and path to salvation... the gospel of grace... Your advice is excellent... abandon ALL religion for a relationship with our savior... it's not a prison, it's the freest a person can be... freedomsnotfree1 |
JackBeNimble
12/23/2018 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? The tithe was a requirement under the Law of Moses to support the priests of the Tribe of Levi who were NOT permitted to work as the other Tribes - their function was to service the Tabernacle. Quoting: Zovalex You Christians need to make up your mind whether you are still subject to Mosaic Law or the teachings of Jesus. It’s NOT both. My personal advice, however, is to abandon ALL religion. It’s a mind prison. This^ Worshiping fake jews makes them fake Christians. |
dogman17
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Leftfoot
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panngree
User ID: 73841345 United States 12/23/2018 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? Tithing is not required of the body of Christ... Paul tells us we are to give as we are prompted by the Holy Spirit... Tithing was required of the Priesthood as part of their law...Only Paul addresses the Body of Christ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I wouldn't argue with you on that point, what I do argue is the HEAVY WEIGHT the current churches place on parishioners, a heavy weight they can sometimes not lift with 10% per year tithing teachings. The preachers don't care about your heavy weight, they only care about their nice cars, the mansions that they live in, the jets that they own, fur coats, the very finest foods money can buy. They live in luxury while the flock just barley gets by. Tithing is no longer in the NT, what ever you purpose in your heart than give. God does not want your money he wants us to live a good holy life the best we can. Help others if you are able and just walk in love with everyone. |
Victor Vectors
(OP) User ID: 71388910 United States 12/23/2018 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist and other Christians, does your Priest or Pastor tell you the tithe is 10% of your income per year as God requires? The tithe was a requirement under the Law of Moses to support the priests of the Tribe of Levi who were NOT permitted to work as the other Tribes - their function was to service the Tabernacle. Quoting: Zovalex You christians need to make up your mind whether you are still subject to Mosaic Law or the teachings of Jesus. It’s NOT both. My personal advice, however, is to abandon ALL religion. It’s a mind prison. . You are correct about the LARGE ORGANISED RELIGIONS, however those still in their infancy need to understand the load put on them is a lie, the Church is the Body of Believers in Christ. Each contributes as they can where they can. The God of Christianity in the words of Jesus Christ's younger brother James defined our Father's definition of Religion as follows; Religion as God Our Father Defines It If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world. (James 1:26-27) Last Edited by Victor Vectors on 12/23/2018 01:06 PM |