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GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 12/29/2018 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sapping under the crucifixion site and setting up a hydraulic arrangement to cause an earthquake and timing the crucifixion prefectly to coincide with an eclipse took a heck of a lot more than "simple" itinerate magicians I will have you know. Quoting: Asmodée Lets have more respect for the road crew. Itinerant means "wanderer" by the way. As in the wandering star Aldebaran. Or migrant worker! And what did Jesus and his merry band of Disciples do but wander from town to town preaching their doctrines? In fact, they earned no actual living but existed soley on the kidness of strangers - and the reputation they built like a modern-day Evangelist with his own satellite. Further -and despite the faithful's claim to the contrary- there is still precious little archeological evidence to support the bulk of the Gospels... and what does exist has been perverted by religion to support their own versions. I recall the much-hyped "dicovery" of the tomb of Jesus' family and how quickly that was revealed as a fake... and how many times has the real-genuine-authentic-one-and-only-here-it-is Noah's Ark been found? Sunn Classic Pictures made a whole string of so-called Christian documentaries back in the 1970's promoting finds such as these. Films that were -BTW- frequently shown in churches nationwide once their limited theatrical runs were over. As far as the scriptures are concerned, it always amazes me that the faithful seem to forget they were mostly only set down decades after Jesus walked the Earth -primarily becauwe the majority of peolple oculd neither read/write [which is another reason it was so easy to perform those "miracles"] with the bulk of the original texts being purely anecdotal. That is until much later when the first of many "official" versions sprang into being. And that's the true eternal problem with religion: as it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end... it is based entirely upon faith. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 12/29/2018 12:05 PM |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The edits you will find are in the gospels of Paul. The OT may not be corrupted but it sure isn't all divinely inspired. Poor sheep boys struggled discerning good and evil, evil and good at times. Oh Yahweh one minute so beautiful and loving but the next you want blood and sacrificial animals or you threaten hell on earth. Jesus knew the errors of his forefathers and the Pharisees hated that. Quoting: WarrenPeace The majority of edits have to do with the "trinity" doctrine. Got a link to show edits in Paul's letters? The errors of the Pharisees were how they decided various "transgressions of the law" amongst themselves and eventually wrote in the Talmud etc...instead of inquiring to God about each "transgression". I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
BohemianExile
User ID: 75071364 United States 12/29/2018 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All these Religions have a source in Buddhism. Its likeley he was taught Buddhism and went out preaching it. All these Religions that were created were written by men to control the population and frighten people into obeying. Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled I just hope he didnt get on any of the Trains in India, with all the farting going on in them, he would have been disgusted Buddha is supposed to have lived around 500 AD, so he definitely came after the Jesus story and yeah, more likely that Eastern religions were influenced by the events in the Levant than vice versa. “Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day.” -Aiel Oath Let the Dragon ride again on the Winds of Time WoT WoT! Build that RedWall Loose Lips Don't Sink Ships ~ Qanons DEW |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: multiple walls of text do NOT an argument make. In fact, if you have to go to such lengths to prove your statements, then you have already lost your case. Quoting: GSB/LTD And your audience. I can provide text which states -very convincingly- that Jesus was nothing more than an itinerant magician whose "miracles" were nothing more than clever tricks played upon a very gullible bunch of ignorant peasants... but that doesn't make that scenario true, either! my point is: this started with a controversial book and some new age lunatics. there is not evidence that Jesus went to the India. Can you prove that statement any more than they can prove that he did? Short answer: NO. No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 12/29/2018 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: multiple walls of text do NOT an argument make. In fact, if you have to go to such lengths to prove your statements, then you have already lost your case. Quoting: GSB/LTD And your audience. I can provide text which states -very convincingly- that Jesus was nothing more than an itinerant magician whose "miracles" were nothing more than clever tricks played upon a very gullible bunch of ignorant peasants... but that doesn't make that scenario true, either! my point is: this started with a controversial book and some new age lunatics. there is not evidence that Jesus went to the India. Can you prove that statement any more than they can prove that he did? Short answer: NO. No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. I'm a writer, Sweetie! Words are my profession. HINT: if you require lengthy paragraphs to present your concept, you need to rethink it before presenting it to the public.... because they -unlike I- will not waste their time reading what you consider so precious. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 12/29/2018 12:09 PM |
WarrenPeace
User ID: 77242043 United States 12/29/2018 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The edits you will find are in the gospels of Paul. The OT may not be corrupted but it sure isn't all divinely inspired. Poor sheep boys struggled discerning good and evil, evil and good at times. Oh Yahweh one minute so beautiful and loving but the next you want blood and sacrificial animals or you threaten hell on earth. Jesus knew the errors of his forefathers and the Pharisees hated that. Quoting: WarrenPeace The majority of edits have to do with the "trinity" doctrine. Got a link to show edits in Paul's letters? The errors of the Pharisees were how they decided various "transgressions of the law" amongst themselves and eventually wrote in the Talmud etc...instead of inquiring to God about each "transgression". No the majority of edits center around the cross and notion of sacrifice. Jesus never spoke dogmatically only Paul's letters did that. Christianity is Paul's doing regarding Jesus dying for our sins which is an error. Jesus never intended to be a bloody body on a wood stick. He won't be returning with a smile for He knows not the ones who act like they know him. Jesus isn't even his name. But for the sake of misunderstanding it's being used here.. |
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BohemianExile
User ID: 75477183 United States 12/29/2018 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: multiple walls of text do NOT an argument make. In fact, if you have to go to such lengths to prove your statements, then you have already lost your case. Quoting: GSB/LTD And your audience. I can provide text which states -very convincingly- that Jesus was nothing more than an itinerant magician whose "miracles" were nothing more than clever tricks played upon a very gullible bunch of ignorant peasants... but that doesn't make that scenario true, either! my point is: this started with a controversial book and some new age lunatics. there is not evidence that Jesus went to the India. Can you prove that statement any more than they can prove that he did? Short answer: NO. No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. Back then, Indo meant Persia, and it's perfectly reasonable to think that he could have gone through that area. “Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day.” -Aiel Oath Let the Dragon ride again on the Winds of Time WoT WoT! Build that RedWall Loose Lips Don't Sink Ships ~ Qanons DEW |
Slightly Disgruntled
User ID: 71687197 United Kingdom 12/29/2018 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All these Religions have a source in Buddhism. Its likeley he was taught Buddhism and went out preaching it. All these Religions that were created were written by men to control the population and frighten people into obeying. Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled I just hope he didnt get on any of the Trains in India, with all the farting going on in them, he would have been disgusted Buddha is supposed to have lived around 500 AD, so he definitely came after the Jesus story and yeah, more likely that Eastern religions were influenced by the events in the Levant than vice versa. Incorrect, your post is incorrect, here is a quote about Buddha Siddhartha Gautama, who would one day become known as Buddha ("enlightened one" or "the awakened"), lived in Nepal during the 6th to 4th century B.C. So as you can see, your post isnt true, it is incorrect. Buddha in fact lived four to six hundred years before Christ. |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The edits you will find are in the gospels of Paul. The OT may not be corrupted but it sure isn't all divinely inspired. Poor sheep boys struggled discerning good and evil, evil and good at times. Oh Yahweh one minute so beautiful and loving but the next you want blood and sacrificial animals or you threaten hell on earth. Jesus knew the errors of his forefathers and the Pharisees hated that. Quoting: WarrenPeace The majority of edits have to do with the "trinity" doctrine. Got a link to show edits in Paul's letters? The errors of the Pharisees were how they decided various "transgressions of the law" amongst themselves and eventually wrote in the Talmud etc...instead of inquiring to God about each "transgression". No the majority of edits center around the cross and notion of sacrifice. Jesus never spoke dogmatically only Paul's letters did that. Christianity is Paul's doing regarding Jesus dying for our sins which is an error. Jesus never intended to be a bloody body on a wood stick. He won't be returning with a smile for He knows not the ones who act like they know him. Jesus isn't even his name. But for the sake of misunderstanding it's being used here.. Jesus' very first teaching was to "repent". Repent for what? Sin. Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel. Thread: Repentance - A Deeper Look - Definition of "Repent" & The Importance of Repentance ------------------------------------------------- "Jesus never intended to be a bloody body on a wood stick."? Really? Jesus tells the Apostles SEVERAL times what will happen...including this... John 10 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. Prophecy even speaks of it. [link to bibleprobe.com] I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
hiddeninplainsite
12/29/2018 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: multiple walls of text do NOT an argument make. In fact, if you have to go to such lengths to prove your statements, then you have already lost your case. Quoting: GSB/LTD And your audience. I can provide text which states -very convincingly- that Jesus was nothing more than an itinerant magician whose "miracles" were nothing more than clever tricks played upon a very gullible bunch of ignorant peasants... but that doesn't make that scenario true, either! my point is: this started with a controversial book and some new age lunatics. there is not evidence that Jesus went to the India. Can you prove that statement any more than they can prove that he did? Short answer: NO. No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. You obviously have done no research on this topic, and yet accuse others of not wanting to READ |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. Quoting: TheLordsServant None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. Back then, Indo meant Persia, and it's perfectly reasonable to think that he could have gone through that area. NO proof. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Slightly Disgruntled
User ID: 71687197 United Kingdom 12/29/2018 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is that group photo of a few posts above, and what does it say in the text below it? I cant read it, it is too small. Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled It's something about spiritualist photo fakery. Ive seen this photo before and cant remember where. I was wondering if it was being claimed underneath if its Jesus returned. The first person ever photographed was in Paris, and I think the date of that photo ( The Paris one )was circa turn of the twentieth century. What date is claimed to be of the photo in the earlier post? |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. Quoting: TheLordsServant None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. You obviously have done no research on this topic, and yet accuse others of not wanting to READ No PROOF. Based on what...a "story" by Notovitch that's been questioned since day 1? I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
3643297
User ID: 76832232 United States 12/29/2018 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is that group photo of a few posts above, and what does it say in the text below it? I cant read it, it is too small. Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled The text is The Great Decision This remarkable “Time Photo” was taken by a woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, in 1967 during a contact with a race of extraterrestrial beings called The Pleidians. She was visiting the Holy Land and contact took place near the Sea of Galilee. The Pleidians told her to take a picture with her black and white Kodak instamatic of the surrounding hillside, and that they would give her a gift of a great event which occurred on the spot. When the film was later developed this is what appeared. It shows (from left to right) Joseph of Arimithea (Jesus’ maternal uncle ), Immanuel Ben-Joseph (Jesus Christ), his younger brother James, and Simon Peter. It was at this moment that Immanuel had made his decision to return to Jerusalem, which explains the concern and sorrow of Joseph and James. It was this One Man’s Great Decision which forever changed the course of history. |
dakinikush
User ID: 76788058 United States 12/29/2018 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buddha represents enlightenment Christ represents either deception (salvationism/idolatry) or enlightenment... If Christ represents enlightenment you might symbolically say Christ met Buddha, or went to India, or acquired the knowledge of the divine feminine, or w/e... |
Slightly Disgruntled
User ID: 71687197 United Kingdom 12/29/2018 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is that group photo of a few posts above, and what does it say in the text below it? I cant read it, it is too small. Quoting: Slightly Disgruntled The text is The Great Decision This remarkable “Time Photo” was taken by a woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, in 1967 during a contact with a race of extraterrestrial beings called The Pleidians. She was visiting the Holy Land and contact took place near the Sea of Galilee. The Pleidians told her to take a picture with her black and white Kodak instamatic of the surrounding hillside, and that they would give her a gift of a great event which occurred on the spot. When the film was later developed this is what appeared. It shows (from left to right) Joseph of Arimithea (Jesus’ maternal uncle ), Immanuel Ben-Joseph (Jesus Christ), his younger brother James, and Simon Peter. It was at this moment that Immanuel had made his decision to return to Jerusalem, which explains the concern and sorrow of Joseph and James. It was this One Man’s Great Decision which forever changed the course of history. Thank you very much for your information, I appreciate it. And it is fascinating. I shall make myself a cup of Coffe and let that sink in. |
Slightly Disgruntled
User ID: 71687197 United Kingdom 12/29/2018 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These `Pleidians`, it says that she went to meet a race of extraterristrials called the Pleidians. It says this as though it is a perfectly normal thing to do. `Oh yes, I went to meet a race of extraterrestrail beings in Galilee` a perfectly usual, mundane thing to do, and she didnt tell anyone about this contect she somehow got, and she also wishes to remain anonymous. And so it goes on. |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whether or not Buddha or Christ existed is irrelevant. Quoting: dakinikush Buddha represents enlightenment Christ represents either deception (salvationism/idolatry) or enlightenment... If Christ represents enlightenment you might symbolically say Christ met Buddha, or went to India, or acquired the knowledge of the divine feminine, or w/e... I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
shoeshy
User ID: 77088012 United States 12/29/2018 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those that do not believe what is plainly written about Jesus Christ make use of the opportunity to speculate speculate speculate about whatever else they want about Jesus. Did God need to learn anything from men in India? Of course not, so this speculation is an admission of ignorance and rejection of Jesus Christ to begin with... Last Edited by shoeshy on 12/29/2018 01:06 PM |
shoeshy
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shoeshy
User ID: 77088012 United States 12/29/2018 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those silent years were simply Jesus working for His father... before the specific hour defined appointed time arrived for His Mission on earth for all mankind. You are Free to believe whatever else you want so as not to believe His Truth. As You Will. Last Edited by shoeshy on 12/29/2018 01:11 PM |
WarrenPeace
User ID: 77242043 United States 12/29/2018 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The edits you will find are in the gospels of Paul. The OT may not be corrupted but it sure isn't all divinely inspired. Poor sheep boys struggled discerning good and evil, evil and good at times. Oh Yahweh one minute so beautiful and loving but the next you want blood and sacrificial animals or you threaten hell on earth. Jesus knew the errors of his forefathers and the Pharisees hated that. Quoting: WarrenPeace The majority of edits have to do with the "trinity" doctrine. Got a link to show edits in Paul's letters? The errors of the Pharisees were how they decided various "transgressions of the law" amongst themselves and eventually wrote in the Talmud etc...instead of inquiring to God about each "transgression". No the majority of edits center around the cross and notion of sacrifice. Jesus never spoke dogmatically only Paul's letters did that. Christianity is Paul's doing regarding Jesus dying for our sins which is an error. Jesus never intended to be a bloody body on a wood stick. He won't be returning with a smile for He knows not the ones who act like they know him. Jesus isn't even his name. But for the sake of misunderstanding it's being used here.. Jesus' very first teaching was to "repent". Repent for what? Sin. Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel. Thread: Repentance - A Deeper Look - Definition of "Repent" & The Importance of Repentance ------------------------------------------------- "Jesus never intended to be a bloody body on a wood stick."? Really? Jesus tells the Apostles SEVERAL times what will happen...including this... John 10 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. Prophecy even speaks of it. [link to bibleprobe.com] If he knew of his sacrifical dogmatic death he would never of asked God on the cross why he had forsaken him. Your scriptural quotes say nothing about the cross though and that is the point. The edits of Paul brought about the dogma. Jesus despises the lies of Christianity and will use his multitude to correct the errors not continue preaching the false news |
in spirit and in truth
User ID: 37244164 United States 12/29/2018 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At what point will people realize that the character of Jesus is a metaphor for the SUN — “the Light of the World” who was “born” on December 25 — coincidentally the very day the SUN is “born” after the three days of the winter solstice? Quoting: What is Aleppo Isn’t it also interesting that Jesus started his ministry at 30, and the SUN starts its “ministry” to the zodiac constellations at 30 degrees (30 degrees x 12 constellations = 360 degrees)? The SUN enters each house of the zodiac at 30 degrees. that would be odd considering how the Jews were severely punished at times for being sun worshippers--a cult still with us today… how about :"all things are made through Christ" and what that might mean about the sun and all things created… worship the Creator not the created "the word became flesh" |
BohemianExile
User ID: 76350274 United States 12/29/2018 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. Quoting: TheLordsServant None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. Back then, Indo meant Persia, and it's perfectly reasonable to think that he could have gone through that area. NO proof. Oh ye of little faith... “Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day.” -Aiel Oath Let the Dragon ride again on the Winds of Time WoT WoT! Build that RedWall Loose Lips Don't Sink Ships ~ Qanons DEW |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59669941 United States 12/29/2018 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don’t need to watch or read anything but the New Testament itself to understand the metaphor. Quoting: Frumpelstiltskin You can get the truth of God off the back of a cereal box too but why skateboard across country when you have a car? Unless you really really like skateboarding. The messianic aspects are all through the old testament, you can find it there too. The new testament is an elaboration on the old, but there is nothing 'new' or 'reformed' about it. |
3643297
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TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he knew of his sacrifical dogmatic death he would never of asked God on the cross why he had forsaken him. Your scriptural quotes say nothing about the cross though and that is the point. The edits of Paul brought about the dogma. Jesus despises the lies of Christianity and will use his multitude to correct the errors not continue preaching the false news Quoting: WarrenPeace Really? The only reason Jesus stated "Why have you forsaken me" on the cross is because the Father was terribly saddened that this had to happen, and that the Father isn't a God of the dead, especially since Jesus had taken the "burden" of sin upon Himself. Jesus spoke of the "cross" beforehand. Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mark 8 34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. 36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No ancient scripture supports any claim that Jesus went to India. Quoting: TheLordsServant None. Your griping about "walls of text" betray the fact that you and others simply don't want to READ. Back then, Indo meant Persia, and it's perfectly reasonable to think that he could have gone through that area. NO proof. Oh ye of little faith... Little faith? I believe AND trust in the Father - the Living God, and His Son FULLY. Faith has nothing to do as to whether Jesus went to India or not. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
billcooper
User ID: 77164083 12/29/2018 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ancients were well versed with lifeforce energy and chakras. Someone in the hierarchy is very upset because the teachings of Jesus align with that of ancient religions from across the world and they destroyed the ancient cultures only to be exposed as Jesus's original teachings. Jesus might have traveled to South America for all you know because the teachings are identical. Both the known old world and the recently discovered 'new' world like South Americas. [link to ibb.co (secure)] |