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hiddeninplainsite
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Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 12/29/2018 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first off the first paragraph is wrong " History offers us little direct evidence about the events of this period," Josephus, who was a non christian wrote extensively about Jesus Christ, and a couple of roman soldiers who were non believers wrote about him The Individual books began being written about 64 years after his death when their traveling ministry was finished. Obviously due to aging. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 12/29/2018 10:26 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Warrior Spirit
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Warrior Spirit
(OP) User ID: 77238745 Ireland 12/29/2018 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first off the first paragraph is wrong Quoting: Jake " History offers us little direct evidence about the events of this period," Josephus, who was a non christian wrote extensively about Jesus Christ, and a couple of roman soldiers who were non believers wrote about him Josephus briefly mentions him I believe. |
Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 12/29/2018 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first off the first paragraph is wrong Quoting: Jake " History offers us little direct evidence about the events of this period," Josephus, who was a non christian wrote extensively about Jesus Christ, and a couple of roman soldiers who were non believers wrote about him Josephus briefly mentions him I believe. more than briefly, there are some manuscripts out there somewhere, i've seen them. Not to mention the letters from Roman soldiers back to rome saying, Hey boss, I think we f-cked up. We killed God's son. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 12/29/2018 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Emperor of Rome wanted Jesus's murders beheaded Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
hiddeninplainsite
12/29/2018 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first off the first paragraph is wrong Quoting: Jake " History offers us little direct evidence about the events of this period," Josephus, who was a non christian wrote extensively about Jesus Christ, and a couple of roman soldiers who were non believers wrote about him Josephus briefly mentions him I believe. Josephus was a key part of the formation of the church. When you realize the intent of the key players in this story then the entire conspiracy come to light. |
Victor Vectors
User ID: 71388910 United States 12/29/2018 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all that was really true, you would think they would have recorded it sooner!? Quoting: Warrior Spirit [link to www.pbs.org (secure)] ...Mark probably dates from 66–70 AD. It appears as the second New Testament gospel because it was traditionally thought to be an epitome (summary) of Matthew, but most scholars now regard it as the earliest written gospel.... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Besides many of us have met the Christ Jesus. Oops! |
Victor Vectors
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John Nash
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Victor Vectors
User ID: 71388910 United States 12/29/2018 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this the first written mention of Jesus? 2,000-year-old lead tablets. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] ANCIENT CHINESE RECORDS ON JESUS! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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S.O.S.
User ID: 76783009 United States 12/29/2018 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize the book of revelation was the last one written by John on Patmos when he was in his 90s. However the rest were written much earlier. And Paul wrote what he did by revelation of the Holly Spirit - And God has a great memory (not good for you...). What you need to ask yourself is how do you get 12 men to be tortured to death for a lie (if Yeshua did not rise from the dead bodily and it was a lie) with no chance of riches or earthly glory??? Not one account of any recanting as they were being skinned alive or crucified upside down... But those deaths were documented to show the world had power over them.... So you see the question you ask is not the right one. Last Edited by S.O.S. on 12/29/2018 11:12 AM Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
3643297
User ID: 76832232 United States 12/29/2018 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They weren’t ‘written’ until the Roman Empire under Constantine decided to make a new universal religion to unite his empire and become a rallying cry of inspiration for his conquering armies. ‘Under this sign we conquer.’ They chose some existing spiritual writings and adapted them into the 4 gospels. They created a figurehead Lamb of God named Iesu or Jesus who was a composite of several famous spiritual teachers who had earlier lived and in some cases been killed for their beliefs. For the Epistles they had the writings of the sage and philosopher Apollonius of Tyana who was born approx 4 AD and lived to 100 AD and had traveled throughout the East including to India, and was made into a god after his death. They adapted his life and writing to become Paul of Tarsus preaching a new religion, used his early life travels in Judea to become part of the Jesus story. In his final years Apollonius wrote what came to be known as the Revelation. Another part of the Jesus composite was an Essene named Joshu or Yeshu who lived in the time frame 100 BC and was stoned for blasphemy. Then the Romans destroyed the original sources, burned the libraries, and book burnings continued for many years thereafter by the Church. But it has been claimed by some priests who have seen them, that the Vatican has kept copy of the originals in their Archives, and that those who have seen them no longer believe in the religion they are teaching. Sources: Antiquity Unveiled by J.M. Roberts Did Jesus live 100 BC by G.R.S. Mead, Oahspe, Book of Eskra, Chapters XLII - XLVIII. Last Edited by 936432979 on 12/29/2018 05:16 PM |
S.O.S.
User ID: 76783009 United States 12/29/2018 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They weren’t ‘written’ until the Roman Empire under Constantine decided to make a new universal religion to unite his empire and become a rallying cry of inspiration for his conquering armies. ‘Under this sign we conquer.’ Quoting: 3643297 They chose some existing spiritual writings and adapted them into the 4 gospels. They created a figurehead Lamb of God named Iesu or Jesus who was a composite of several famous spiritual teachers who had earlier lived and in some cases been killed for their beliefs. For the Epistles they had the writings of the sage and philosopher Apollonius of Tyana who was born approx 4 AD and lived to 100 AD and had traveled throughout the East including to India, and was made into a god after his death. They adapted his life and writing to become Paul of Tarsus preaching a new religion, used his early life travels in Judea to become part of the Jesus story. In his final years Apollonius wrote what came to be known as the Revelation. Another part of the Jesus composite was an Essene named Joshu or Yeshu who lived in the time frame 100 BC and was stoned for blasphemy. Then the Romans destroyed the original sources, burned the libraries, and book burnings continued for many years thereafter by the Church. But it has been claimed by some priests who have seen them, that the Vatican has kept copy of the originals in their Archives, and that those who have seen them no longer believe in the religion they are teaching. Sources: Antiquity Unveiled by J.S.M. Ward, Did Jesus live 100 BC by G.R.S. Mead, Oahspe, Book of Eskra, Chapters XLII - XLVIII. Your in for a HOT surprise if you don't repent! Now answer my question above. Last Edited by S.O.S. on 12/29/2018 11:14 AM Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
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SavedByGraceAlone
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SavedByGraceAlone
User ID: 72282624 United States 12/29/2018 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know about the rest of what he said but the part about it being a state religion by Constantine is accurate and not in any way denied by Christianity. and apparently the part about priests not believing what they teach is true also..just a bunch of sick pedophiles.. SavedByGraceAlone |
Larry Poppins
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diverdan01
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The Dr.
User ID: 77192604 United States 12/29/2018 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all that was really true, you would think they would have recorded it sooner!? Quoting: Warrior Spirit [link to www.pbs.org (secure)] Fail! A Century is 100 years, The four gospels were written down within 20 to 60 years of Christs death. Mostly these accounts were told by word of mouth. Making a written record was not a common way of doing things back then, as most people could not read or write. PBS is not an authority on the Gospel. They are misleading people to start with. You trying to mislead people on what they said (which was wrong to start with) and that is even worse. PBS said, "Written over the course of almost a century", not over a century. When 60 years or less, becomes "almost a Century": then I guess that is part of their Common core math, showing itself. “An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” ~ Benjamin Franklin |
3643297
User ID: 76832232 United States 12/29/2018 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize the book of revelation was the last one written by John on Patmos when he was in his 90s. However the rest were written much earlier. And Paul wrote what he did by revelation of the Holly Spirit - And God has a great memory (not good for you...). Quoting: S.O.S. What you need to ask yourself is how do you get 12 men to be tortured to death for a lie (if Yeshua did not rise from the dead bodily and it was a lie) with no chance of riches or earthly glory??? Not one account of any recanting as they were being skinned alive or crucified upside down... But those deaths were documented to show the world had power over them.... So you see the question you ask is not the right one. After the new religion was created, the new Church adapted the martyrdom stories of those who had been killed, crucified, thrown to the lions, killed as sport in the arenas, during the past 300 years, throughout the vast Roman Empire, no matter what beliefs they had, and made them into the early martyrs of the new religion. A new religion is made more compelling if it can also show a history of martyrdom for the faith. ‘Lives of the Saints’ by Omer Englebert has listed and described all the martyrs made into saints by the Church, and it is clear from the stories of those who lived prior to 300 AD that the various beliefs they were killed for had little or no resemblance to Christianity or Jesus. They believed strongly and refused to recant and preferred to die, or were simply punished because they were considered troublemakers because they didn’t stick to the state-sanctioned religions. This has happened throughout the ages and is certainly not unique to Christianity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77211179 United States 12/29/2018 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all that was really true, you would think they would have recorded it sooner!? Quoting: Warrior Spirit [link to www.pbs.org (secure)] Why do you call them gospels? (just asking) and Luke never met Christ.. he was a student of Paul... who was stupid and misunderstood.. but Lukes is better than some in there... The apostles with the except of Mark did not leave writings. its was their students who did later. Luke did make his own recordings in terms of writing though.. of his teachings... |
Baloney
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marcomartim
User ID: 76828746 Brazil 12/29/2018 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Roman invasion that destroyed the Temple, destroyed almost everything in Israel including the books. But there is still a fragment of the Gospel of Mark that was possibly written in the First Century The gifts of the Holy Spirit, you do not receive in a school of charlatans Beware of misinformation agents, they are infiltrating everywhere Most of the things that have taught you about the story, is a farce The truth is still out there *It's easy to tame sheep... |
WarrenPeace
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75230193 United States 12/29/2018 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never existed and is not a real person that lived. baloney! Saying Baloney doesn't make it wrong. Real proof is required for your viewpoint. Josephus was born in 37 AD. He was no more a historical witness to Jesus than I am to Gerald Ford. I was born in 76. I can write about things other people say he did. It's circumstantial. There is no proof of Jesus, only proof of Christians in the 1st century. It's not the same thing. There are no books written by anyone who saw him 1st hand. Not even the gospels are first hand accounts from the original people. It's all fakery and mental illness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75230193 United States 12/29/2018 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never existed and is not a real person that lived. baloney! Saying Baloney doesn't make it wrong. Real proof is required for your viewpoint. Josephus was born in 37 AD. He was no more a historical witness to Jesus than I am to Gerald Ford. I was born in 76. I can write about things other people say he did. It's circumstantial. There is no proof of Jesus, only proof of Christians in the 1st century. It's not the same thing. There are no books written by anyone who saw him 1st hand. Not even the gospels are first hand accounts from the original people. It's all fakery and mental illness. |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately a lot of the original materials were burned by the newly formed state religion as blasphemy, by the 4th century. Quoting: *Seb* Besides the war in Israel 66 - 70 AD, Christians were persecuted by Rome all the way up to Constantine's decree in 312 AD. Then you have the Muslim invasion that began after Muhammed died, and spread into even southern Europe. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
TheLordsServant
User ID: 41112308 United States 12/29/2018 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus never existed and is not a real person that lived. baloney! Saying Baloney doesn't make it wrong. Real proof is required for your viewpoint. Josephus was born in 37 AD. He was no more a historical witness to Jesus than I am to Gerald Ford. I was born in 76. I can write about things other people say he did. It's circumstantial. There is no proof of Jesus, only proof of Christians in the 1st century. It's not the same thing. There are no books written by anyone who saw him 1st hand. Not even the gospels are first hand accounts from the original people. It's all fakery and mental illness. Nonsense. It's generally accepted that Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. 9 Secular Sources Josephus (Jewish historian) Tacitus (Roman historian) Pliny the Younger (Roman politician) Phlegon (freed slave who wrote histories) Lucian (Greek satirist) Celsus (Roman philosopher) Mara Bar Serapion (prisoner awaiting execution) Suetonius Thallus Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 12/29/2018 01:37 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |