Breitbart: TRUMP SHOCK: ‘PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP’ COMING FOR MORE FOREIGNERS

Wow.

Trump employs lots of H-1B people at his resorts. Do what I say and not what I do.

copied this from an earlier thread:

Last year, 86,000 H1-B visas were issued to foreigners. So let's say they can now get citizenship, they are married, have a few brothers or sisters and have two kids. Here's how chain migration works:

H1-B visa holder + spouse + two kids = 4 immigrants

Parents of both spouses = 4 immigrants

Brothers and sisters pf the H1B immigrants = 4 immigrants

Total: 12 * 86,000 = 1,032,000 potential new immigrants who will have permanent residency and allowed to work or obtain welfare with a pathway to citizenship each year.

Chain migration resulting in a million new immigrants each year, legally competing for jobs or getting welfare.

Great! Cause our system is BROKEN and needs to be fixed. If we know you're a good guy and your visa is running out, these processes need to be more effective.

Do you get your healthcare thru the fedexchg? Then you know exactly the red tape I'm talking bout here.

fix it with a pathway to citizenship and then by letting in 1,000,000 new immigrants each year through chain migration so they can compete with Americans for jobs and drive wages down in the process.

reminder - here is what Trump said about H1Bs during the campaign:

Thread: Trump: I want to scrap all H1B visas

Some quotes regarding H1B visa from Donald Trump:

"I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”

March 3, 2016

“I know the H-1B very well. And it’s something that I, frankly, use, and I shouldn’t be allowed to use it. We shouldn’t have it. Very, very bad for workers. And second of all, I think it’s very important to say, well, I’m a businessman and I have to do what I have to do. When it’s sitting there waiting for you, but it’s very bad. It’s very bad for business in terms of — and it’s very bad for our workers and it’s unfair for our workers. And we should end it.”

March 10, 2016

And then onApril 8 2017, Trump signed the “Buy American and Hire American” executive order

I've bought land. Third world foreigners not welcome.

I want them to all be scandinavian.

hope were getting the wall.

gave up hope long ago.

What can he do with them already on the ground?

What could anybody do ............Deport them all, even them born in the USA?

Easiest way, secure the border tight,...... go through all illegals and sort the "wheat from the chaff"

expel/extradite all the "chaff", finger print plus DNA first,....... grant immunity to what remains,

with a caveat that any crime whatsoever committed = immediate removal from country.

From there on well ...............

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Take a look at what President Trump has tried to do ....


Tax cut ......the Fed up the interest

build the wall ......the Dems won't grant

Pull out of Syria ......the Military plus deep state

It's not for trying is it?.... At each turn he's knocked back,

what would be your solution?

Last Edited by clock on 01/12/2019 04:56 AM

H1B visas are temporary. They are initially valid for the three years and may be extended for another three, but after that the foreigner must leave for at least one year before they can apply for another H1B. So if Trump did what he said he would do during the campaign and eliminate the H1B visa program and Hire American (which he hasn't), all we would have had to do is wait out the validity and in a few years they would all be gone.

What Trump proposed yesterday was a pathway for citizenship, which would allow them to stay, become US citizens and then begin the chain migration of bringing their entire family over.

Last Edited by Sardonicus Landshark on 01/12/2019 05:03 AM

Who is screening these people?

Thanks for your insight it's appreciated, and yes I fully agree with you

I knew nothing of the H1B..........Sardonicus Landshark

Last Edited by clock on 01/12/2019 05:09 AM

It's a valid and vital question, somebodies in charge of that department.

There is no screening apart from whatever the sponsoring employer wants to do such as a Skype interview.

Here's what Ann Coulter retweeted:

What happened to #AmericaFirst? The H1-B program has been hurting American college graduates for a long time. It's killing American scientists &programmers & lowering wages. Replacing Americans with foreign labor is shameful and shows you are putting

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I could get behind this IF the H1-B program cuts its numbers by 2/3 (minimum) or even end the H1-B program altogether. It's a trade-off. Making them citizens would increase the competitive edge of American workers, but only if they are not replaced 1:1 with more H1-B workers.

So how does giving foreigners citizenship and boosting chain migration by more than one million foreigners per year increase the competitive edge of American workers?

By pushing wages lower and making it harder for Americans to get jobs?

Because current H1-B workers become citizens (placing them on our side of the competition), and future H1-B workers are highly reduced or eliminated altogether. It's a big if, but it's the only way I would get behind this plan.

Why not just do away with the program?

Do you know that there are 1.5 million h-1b workers in this country waiting to get greencard ? Now if you include their spouses and kids the total would be around 4-5 million. So if every one of them is offered path to citizenship, our kids will have nothing left but be on welfare for the rest of their lives.

i could get behind what trump said about h1b visas during the election:


“The influx of foreign workers holds down salaries, keeps unemployment high, and makes it difficult for poor and working class Americans — including immigrants themselves and their children — to earn a middle class wage. … We need companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office not USCIS [U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services].”

"I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”

“I know the H-1B very well. And it’s something that I, frankly, use, and I shouldn’t be allowed to use it. We shouldn’t have it. Very, very bad for workers. And second of all, I think it’s very important to say, well, I’m a businessman and I have to do what I have to do. When it’s sitting there waiting for you, but it’s very bad. It’s very bad for business in terms of — and it’s very bad for our workers and it’s unfair for our workers. And we should end it.”

so now not only is he not eliminating h1b visas, he is adding on the benefit of giving them citizenship and starting massive chain migration of their families to further compete with american workers or just go on welfare.

whatever happened to "hire american"?

The H1B programs needs numerous reforms along with this pathway to citizenship concession.

Fix the problem with this program and I would be on board with legal immigration and citizenship for people who work.

Need migrant labor worker programs to be reformed as well. There is no doubt that agriculture and construction sectors benefit from common labor and tradesman skills. If Americans want these jobs, they need to get out of Momma's basement and go get a job.

MANY more people have been awarded citizenship in the last 40 years than came here in the Ellis Island years. Immigration was reduced drastically in the 1920s to assimilate the Ellis Island people in. As a result, wages went up, extreme abuse of sweatshops were curtailed, child labor in factories ended, and crime rates went down in the large cities. We must stop immigration for decades to even get a handle on what is already here.

I remember "Buy American, Hire American".

But this is a 180 degree flip.

Why?

GOOD.

Immigration is the life blood of America -- and what this country is all about ...