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SovereignMe
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Ellenjay
User ID: 77217848 Australia 01/15/2019 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Exactly the scenario I worked out to save their lives. They HAD to be drugged unconscious, they HAD to be fed Oxygen non-stop, and they HAD to prevented from any random movement. My theory was to tightly wrap them in cling film type material, tight enough (mummy style) to prevent struggling, and flexible enough to bend around the corners of the tunnels. Worked perfectly, the kids lived. END OF STORY Stay well. |
SovereignMe
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Timur2020
User ID: 72423072 United States 01/15/2019 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity That's because you aren't one. The optics on that, necessary or not, are bad enough where dumb mob % is concerned. Not to mention the 200 opportunistic lawsuits now/later lawsuits and claims that keep you tied up in thai bullsheet 20 years or un grandstanding, whatever? Nothing can fk your life up on you like helping some bunch, unless that bunch is govt and its even worse. Anybody would do that and just be hoping they get out alive. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
PopeyeMan
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Timur2020
User ID: 72423072 United States 01/15/2019 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity See right there? "You sedated a minor, who was then abused.." True or not? Even asking the question and investigating the matter can make years of useless crap all these other people live by doing. Let alone if one of the little things had died or gotten brain damage/coma period, whatever - but just even openly honestly asking the question and answering that is some gordian knot of stupid others can waste thier time with. If you are going to have to face a state medical review or federal judge over a job or judgement call where injury/death ensued, you sure wouldn't want it to be in thailand! Last Edited by Timur2020 on 01/15/2019 07:51 AM "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
Timur2020
User ID: 72423072 United States 01/15/2019 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Yeah not really and it was because those guys said it would not work that they chose the alternate plan. They did not want to develop on his and time seemed obvious enough....but he made that crack....and never really said "why?"....and I don't doubt it. But I doubt either dr knew up front they were doping boys for a booger, could see the obvious circumstances and it was the whole gov and everybody involved, not them really doing much of the directing/authorising of anything. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
MissCleo
User ID: 76541118 United States 01/15/2019 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity See right there? "You sedated a minor, who was then abused.." True or not? Even asking the question and investigating the matter can make years of useless crap all these other people live by doing. Let alone if one of the little things had died or gotten brain damage/coma period, whatever - but just even openly honestly asking the question and answering that is some gordian knot of stupid others can waste thier time with. If you are going to have to face a state medical review or federal judge over a job or judgement call where injury/death ensued, you sure wouldn't want it to be in thailand! Really. Why was a man with a bunch of boys deep in a cave to begin with. People will go to great lengths to hide their activity. No witnesses deep inside that cave!!! But again the MSM makes a "heroic" story out of the whole thing without delivering the truth. The truth is in the hands of the First Responders and Judicial System. |
PopeyeMan
User ID: 77261936 United Kingdom 01/15/2019 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Remember the bit about the Thai Water Authority President and a few of his staff headed into the caves without telling the official rescue party? They took pumping equipment and enough food and supplies to last several weeks. In there for several days and no alarm was raised to say they were missing. Their presence was only discovered after they got trapped and the official rescue party found them inside the cave. Weird. Popeye |
KuvaszLove
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Feyra
User ID: 74968244 France 01/15/2019 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Not at all. That was the smartest thing they could ever do. If anything goes wrong...the government never takes the blame. They'll blame the foreigners. Of course...they had to fly in dozens of white guys to save those kids. From U.K., Aus and USA. They had no one locally that could do it |
SovereignMe
(OP) User ID: 65833029 United Kingdom 01/15/2019 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Not at all. That was the smartest thing they could ever do. If anything goes wrong...the government never takes the blame. They'll blame the foreigners. Of course...they had to fly in dozens of white guys to save those kids. From U.K., Aus and USA. They had no one locally that could do it I said it caught my eye. I didn’t say it was strange, nefarious or that I had a problem with it. Last Edited by SovereignMe on 01/15/2019 09:15 AM |
rosicrucian1
User ID: 76960994 Canada 01/15/2019 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: SovereignMe The world was told the 12 Thai cave boys would swim to freedom but that was a LIE to soothe their parents - as a new book reveals how they were drugged and handcuffed before they were rescued ... To calm nerves, the parents were told the boys were being taught how to dive and the media reported that each of them would be tethered to an air hose and then swim out with one rescue diver in front and another behind. This was untrue. Those who’d been inside the flooded tunnels knew there was no way a child who had never dived before could make it through the muddy and treacherous obstacle course. The only hope was to sedate them, put oxygen-fed masks with silicone seals over their faces and let the expert cave divers carry them out. But it was crucial that the masks fitted tightly, otherwise they might drown, and there was an issue with size. Dozens of full-face masks were procured, but most were for adults. Only four were suitable for children, and there were doubts that even these would do for the smallest boys. As for sedating them, that would need specialists, and a call went out to two vastly experienced Australian cave divers, Dr Richard Harris, an anaesthetist known by all as Dr Harry, and his friend and dive partner Craig Challen, a retired vet. Dr Harry, who ran a course teaching emergency service workers how to dive, would take on the highly delicate task of putting the boys to sleep, while, with his clinical expertise, Challen would be able to check on them as they were dived out. As they flew in, both men were acutely aware of the mammoth risks involved and asked the Thai government for diplomatic immunity. There was a real possibility that some — possibly all — the boys would die, and understandably they did not want to be blamed. and the crime is? the boys are lucky to be alive period. “the devil is a foe to the blood” Prof. Minor |
SovereignMe
(OP) User ID: 65833029 United Kingdom 01/15/2019 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Not at all. That was the smartest thing they could ever do. If anything goes wrong...the government never takes the blame. They'll blame the foreigners. Of course...they had to fly in dozens of white guys to save those kids. From U.K., Aus and USA. They had no one locally that could do it I said it caught my eye. I didn’t say it was strange, nefarious or that I had a problem with it. Did I say there was a crime? Am I suggesting there was actual wrongdoing? Nope. Last Edited by SovereignMe on 01/15/2019 09:23 AM |
FeedYourHead
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Superstrings R' Us
User ID: 70672556 United Kingdom 01/15/2019 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Yep! All the cave diving experts at the rescue advised the Thai government that the flexible submarines would not work. The kids were happy to be drugged and handcuffed and it saved their lives. Their parents could not be told because they might have objected and forced the government not to sedate the boys. The divers knew that this would risk the rescue to the point that some of the boys would die. So their parents could not be told. |
Avýssou
User ID: 77290468 Finland 01/15/2019 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity the case is connected to human trafficking. without the flooding, we would have never heard of them. call it a divine intervention. but the coach is not innocent guy. now they made it into a cash cow ritual. don't buy the book. note: why 12? 12=L. No soccer team only has 12 players. Last Edited by Avýssou on 01/15/2019 10:08 AM | "In emptiness there is good but no evil. Wisdom exists, logic exists, the Way exists, mind is empty." | "Let your inner mind be unclouded and open, placing your intellect on a broad plane." | Revelations: 21 & 22 | Isaiah 40:31 | When there is a lightshow in the clouds, but no lightning, no thunder: It's alien factions battling. | Q749 "Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes. The end won't be for everyone. That choice, to know, will be yours." Q |
beenthruthat
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NM 156
User ID: 39903149 United States 01/15/2019 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Exactly the scenario I worked out to save their lives. Quoting: Ellenjay They HAD to be drugged unconscious, they HAD to be fed Oxygen non-stop, and they HAD to prevented from any random movement. My theory was to tightly wrap them in cling film type material, tight enough (mummy style) to prevent struggling, and flexible enough to bend around the corners of the tunnels. Worked perfectly, the kids lived. END OF STORY Stay well. This ^ It was the only way to retrieve them. Sedated and secure, not ssure why the parents are so upset, all of their children SSURVIVED unharmed. It was a risky procedure but well worth iit. Look around, is this the end that you have foreseen? The pain, the misery in us all What was it that you knew? Will we one day learn it too? And together build another way, to the morning Or will it ever come again? You've poisoned all our hopes We have nothing now, and what of the children? What has this done to them? Damn you for the pain that they must feel... |
rosicrucian1
User ID: 76960994 Canada 01/15/2019 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity That is exactly what I was thinking as I read this, why couldn't they just ride a tiny submarine [/quote it is heavy and you have to get it in there for one.. also the area was shaped like a serpentine shape on the horizontal.. picture it... areas where there was water and breaks or openings.. that is why they used divers because no water craft of any kind could go straight through. “the devil is a foe to the blood” Prof. Minor |
Halsey Knox
User ID: 77239290 United States 01/15/2019 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Never thought about it much but now that it comes out, it makes total sense. If they had been conscious they would have had to deal with their panic & claustrophobia. Of course now dozens of people will be coming out saying "I told you that's what they were going to do...." yet I don't recall hearing anyone say "the kids need to be sedated". LOL. "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." -Edward Bernays |
Tubbs
User ID: 71358211 United States 01/15/2019 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Exactly the scenario I worked out to save their lives. Quoting: Ellenjay They HAD to be drugged unconscious, they HAD to be fed Oxygen non-stop, and they HAD to prevented from any random movement. My theory was to tightly wrap them in cling film type material, tight enough (mummy style) to prevent struggling, and flexible enough to bend around the corners of the tunnels. Worked perfectly, the kids lived. END OF STORY Stay well. as a diver i got to laugh at the Oxygen comment in your thread lol Is This The Real World Or Is It Just Fantasy. |
Sublime Paragon
User ID: 73685065 United Kingdom 01/15/2019 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Exactly the scenario I worked out to save their lives. Quoting: Ellenjay They HAD to be drugged unconscious, they HAD to be fed Oxygen non-stop, and they HAD to prevented from any random movement. My theory was to tightly wrap them in cling film type material, tight enough (mummy style) to prevent struggling, and flexible enough to bend around the corners of the tunnels. Worked perfectly, the kids lived. END OF STORY Stay well. as a diver i got to laugh at the Oxygen comment in your thread lol As an experienced rescue diver of over 25 years, you can use pure oxygen underwater - depends on depth and partial pressures. But yes I think they were referring to normal air tanks with a forced flow full face mask. Although not being sure about depth or what drugs they used on them - It could of been pure O2. Fatality, Out of Sanity. ------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. ------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 01/15/2019 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Good. As a low-skilled diver myself, I know cave diving is very hard. Teach the kids to do it over a few days? No way, they would panic, forget things, get themselves and maybe the rescuers killed. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 01/15/2019 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity Exactly the scenario I worked out to save their lives. Quoting: Ellenjay They HAD to be drugged unconscious, they HAD to be fed Oxygen non-stop, and they HAD to prevented from any random movement. My theory was to tightly wrap them in cling film type material, tight enough (mummy style) to prevent struggling, and flexible enough to bend around the corners of the tunnels. Worked perfectly, the kids lived. END OF STORY Stay well. as a diver i got to laugh at the Oxygen comment in your thread lol As an experienced rescue diver of over 25 years, you can use pure oxygen underwater - depends on depth and partial pressures. But yes I think they were referring to normal air tanks with a forced flow full face mask. Although not being sure about depth or what drugs they used on them - It could of been pure O2. O2 would have been OK, but so would regular air, or nitrox or trimix. The pressure at almost zero depth would not cause any risk of oxygen toxicity. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
~Jazzy~
Forum Administrator 01/15/2019 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Thai cave rescue: parents lied to. Kids drugged and handcuffed. Doctors requested diplomatic immunity It doesn't bother me HOW they got them out. It's how they felt they needed to LIE to the parents about it. It shows how far this world has turned into a snowflake ridden pansy party. You need to knock my kid out or they'll die? Knock away. At least they have a chance that way. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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