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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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buy the latest Delorme atlas of your state and be prepared to travel secondary roads. and keep a compass in the car at all times.
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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buy the latest Delorme atlas of your state and be prepared to travel secondary roads. and keep a compass in the car at all times.
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Don't know if it's already been suggested, but it's a good thing to learn other people's skills. What I mean is, if you are the male and do the 'man stuff' round the place, it might be handy to learn to cook, do the washing, shopping, etc.

Learn to sew, how to get the kids dressed and fed, all that kind of stuff.

Ladies, if you can't already do it, learn the secret art of car maintenance, change a flat, change the oil. Etc.

Sweep a chimney, fix the roof, and so on.

It may come in handy before shtf, if you have an accident, or even the flu!


Nice thread OP. We've been off-grid for 16 years and still learning.

We've never had such a bad year for insect/rodent/animal problems with the gardens, crops and even in the house. I just earned about the mosquito fogger on here tonight - we don't seem to have them here, unless someone knows better!
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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buy the latest Delorme atlas of your state and be prepared to travel secondary roads. and keep a compass in the car at all times.
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Gas will be rationed..... so prepare for that as another control point.
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water could be critical.....

so I walked into Walmart looking for a non stick frying pan. Copper Chef was on clearance and it had a lid, $12. must have a lid to conserve fuel.

great pan at a great price, I use it every day....

funny thing was...2 critical reviews on Amazon about Copper Chef. I have no clue what they are talking about. best frying pan I've ever used.
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water could be critical.....

so I walked into Walmart looking for a non stick frying pan. Copper Chef was on clearance and it had a lid, $12. must have a lid to conserve fuel.

great pan at a great price, I use it every day....

funny thing was...2 critical reviews on Amazon about Copper Chef. I have no clue what they are talking about. best frying pan I've ever used.
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Cast iron. You can have mine when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers LOL. Very non-stick when properly seasoned (and used).

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Don't know if it's already been suggested, but it's a good thing to learn other people's skills. What I mean is, if you are the male and do the 'man stuff' round the place, it might be handy to learn to cook, do the washing, shopping, etc.

Learn to sew, how to get the kids dressed and fed, all that kind of stuff.

We've never had such a bad year for insect/rodent/animal problems with the gardens, crops and even in the house. I just earned about the mosquito fogger on here tonight - we don't seem to have them here, unless someone knows better!
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I do 95% of the shopping, 50% of the cooking and 50% of the washing. I changed a lot of diapers back in the day, too.

I must admit, I weld better than I sew. Just saying.
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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At the beginning of the Covid-19 shutdowns, my employer put a travel ban in place. I had to ask permission to leave the state.
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Don't know if it's already been suggested, but it's a good thing to learn other people's skills. What I mean is, if you are the male and do the 'man stuff' round the place, it might be handy to learn to cook, do the washing, shopping, etc.

Learn to sew, how to get the kids dressed and fed, all that kind of stuff.

We've never had such a bad year for insect/rodent/animal problems with the gardens, crops and even in the house. I just earned about the mosquito fogger on here tonight - we don't seem to have them here, unless someone knows better!
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I do 95% of the shopping, 50% of the cooking and 50% of the washing. I changed a lot of diapers back in the day, too.

I must admit, I weld better than I sew. Just saying.
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We've had a lot of mice this year too.
I'm the 'single parent' household/homestead. I am always learning but it seems as if there is always something else. When your average temp for the month is 10f, you are out of firewood and your furnace quits..you become a furnace repair expert. lol. If you live in an old house, you learn plumbing and basic electrical pretty quickly.
We also won't be running out of firewood again.
I taught my boys and my girls how to garden/can/small engine repair/butcher/clean/do laundry/cook/knit (one of my sons is still knitting his way through his EE PhD)/wildcraft..all the basics. Maybe they will never need these skills, but knowledge weighs nothing to carry out there into the world.

and welding is not my strong suit, although one of my sons is pretty darn good at it.
hf
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Don't know if it's already been suggested, but it's a good thing to learn other people's skills. What I mean is, if you are the male and do the 'man stuff' round the place, it might be handy to learn to cook, do the washing, shopping, etc.

Learn to sew, how to get the kids dressed and fed, all that kind of stuff.

We've never had such a bad year for insect/rodent/animal problems with the gardens, crops and even in the house. I just earned about the mosquito fogger on here tonight - we don't seem to have them here, unless someone knows better!
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I do 95% of the shopping, 50% of the cooking and 50% of the washing. I changed a lot of diapers back in the day, too.

I must admit, I weld better than I sew. Just saying.
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Good for you c62, remember, specialisation is for insects.hf
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Sorry, Crunch, about removing your response to the ugly poster, but I do not wish to leave ugly posts in the thread. I know it's hard not to smack them with their own foolishness.

I do not disagree with you about his fate! LOL
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Sorry, Crunch, about removing your response to the ugly poster, but I do not wish to leave ugly posts in the thread. I know it's hard not to smack them with their own foolishness.

I do not disagree with you about his fate! LOL
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Sometimes, I do tend to speak my mind. Sorry you had to clean up the mess. ;)
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We've had a lot of mice this year too.
I'm the 'single parent' household/homestead. I am always learning but it seems as if there is always something else. When your average temp for the month is 10f, you are out of firewood and your furnace quits..you become a furnace repair expert. lol. If you live in an old house, you learn plumbing and basic electrical pretty quickly.
We also won't be running out of firewood again.
I taught my boys and my girls how to garden/can/small engine repair/butcher/clean/do laundry/cook/knit (one of my sons is still knitting his way through his EE PhD)/wildcraft..all the basics. Maybe they will never need these skills, but knowledge weighs nothing to carry out there into the world.

and welding is not my strong suit, although one of my sons is pretty darn good at it.
hf
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I learned to fix things myself because I could not afford to pay somebody else to do it.

I was always mechanically inclined, for lack of a better term. I always fixed my own cars, etc.

Then I became a homeowner in this armpit of a community about 35 years ago. Something always needed attention. I guess I should be thankful my dad was a journeyman electrician before moving on to engineering. My father in law was an electrician. My wife's grandfather was a plumber (after piloting a B-24 over Europe in WWII). My wife's cousin has a tile business and I worked as a helper when times were tough.

I guess some of it rubbed off on me. I fix everything myself. I do admit the next time I need to pull my well pump, I will likely need some help as that thing seems to have gotten heavier over the years.
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We've had a lot of mice this year too.
I'm the 'single parent' household/homestead. I am always learning but it seems as if there is always something else. When your average temp for the month is 10f, you are out of firewood and your furnace quits..you become a furnace repair expert. lol. If you live in an old house, you learn plumbing and basic electrical pretty quickly.
We also won't be running out of firewood again.
I taught my boys and my girls how to garden/can/small engine repair/butcher/clean/do laundry/cook/knit (one of my sons is still knitting his way through his EE PhD)/wildcraft..all the basics. Maybe they will never need these skills, but knowledge weighs nothing to carry out there into the world.

and welding is not my strong suit, although one of my sons is pretty darn good at it.
hf
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I learned to fix things myself because I could not afford to pay somebody else to do it.

I was always mechanically inclined, for lack of a better term. I always fixed my own cars, etc.

Then I became a homeowner in this armpit of a community about 35 years ago. Something always needed attention. I guess I should be thankful my dad was a journeyman electrician before moving on to engineering. My father in law was an electrician. My wife's grandfather was a plumber (after piloting a B-24 over Europe in WWII). My wife's cousin has a tile business and I worked as a helper when times were tough.

I guess some of it rubbed off on me. I fix everything myself. I do admit the next time I need to pull my well pump, I will likely need some help as that thing seems to have gotten heavier over the years.
 Quoting: Crunch62


So, my well is in my garage. (wtf?) but it used to be across the street, sometime in the last 170 years so I guess that is an improvement especially since across the street is now someone else's property.

But every time it rains hard, the top part of the well was getting submerged in run off and our water would get cloudy (yuck) so I put a sump pump in near our well head, resealed the cap and gave thanks yet again for our Berkey (ftr, one of my kids put a glass of milk into the Berkey and it filtered great although I ended up having to replace the $100 filters)

But yes, necessity is the mother of invention or something like that.

cheers
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We've had a lot of mice this year too.
I'm the 'single parent' household/homestead. I am always learning but it seems as if there is always something else. When your average temp for the month is 10f, you are out of firewood and your furnace quits..you become a furnace repair expert. lol. If you live in an old house, you learn plumbing and basic electrical pretty quickly.
We also won't be running out of firewood again.
I taught my boys and my girls how to garden/can/small engine repair/butcher/clean/do laundry/cook/knit (one of my sons is still knitting his way through his EE PhD)/wildcraft..all the basics. Maybe they will never need these skills, but knowledge weighs nothing to carry out there into the world.

and welding is not my strong suit, although one of my sons is pretty darn good at it.
hf
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I learned to fix things myself because I could not afford to pay somebody else to do it.

I was always mechanically inclined, for lack of a better term. I always fixed my own cars, etc.

Then I became a homeowner in this armpit of a community about 35 years ago. Something always needed attention. I guess I should be thankful my dad was a journeyman electrician before moving on to engineering. My father in law was an electrician. My wife's grandfather was a plumber (after piloting a B-24 over Europe in WWII). My wife's cousin has a tile business and I worked as a helper when times were tough.

I guess some of it rubbed off on me. I fix everything myself. I do admit the next time I need to pull my well pump, I will likely need some help as that thing seems to have gotten heavier over the years.
 Quoting: Crunch62


So, my well is in my garage. (wtf?) but it used to be across the street, sometime in the last 170 years so I guess that is an improvement especially since across the street is now someone else's property.

But every time it rains hard, the top part of the well was getting submerged in run off and our water would get cloudy (yuck) so I put a sump pump in near our well head, resealed the cap and gave thanks yet again for our Berkey (ftr, one of my kids put a glass of milk into the Berkey and it filtered great although I ended up having to replace the $100 filters)

But yes, necessity is the mother of invention or something like that.

cheers
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Yes, invention due to necessity is a mother...

+1 on the Berkey. The pot growers are putting God knows what on their crops around here. We don't drink the well water anymore without filtration.
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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buy the latest Delorme atlas of your state and be prepared to travel secondary roads. and keep a compass in the car at all times.
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Fantastic advice! I’ve got the Delorme atlas for Idaho but totally forgot to get a compass😝. BTW the Mormons are having a communications exercise this coming weekend where each member is to check in with a team captain to be sure every member of the church can be reached in an emergency. Something must be up....
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I have tried in the past to set aside a supply of dark chocolate as part of my food preps. The only problem is, I keep eating it all LOL. I tried to think of a way I could stop myself from eating it and I think I have a solution. I went to Costco and bought four of their 2 pound boxes of Hershey‘s cocoa. They have been sitting quietly on the shelf and not calling out to me. I think it’s because it takes some actual effort to turn it into something edible like hot cocoa, chocolate cake, or fudge.

I bought them at Costco for about 7 1/2 dollars for each can which is the best price I have seen. You can also get it pretty cheaply at a Walmart. Shelf stable for a couple of years.
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We've had a lot of mice this year too.
I'm the 'single parent' household/homestead. I am always learning but it seems as if there is always something else. When your average temp for the month is 10f, you are out of firewood and your furnace quits..you become a furnace repair expert. lol. If you live in an old house, you learn plumbing and basic electrical pretty quickly.
We also won't be running out of firewood again.
I taught my boys and my girls how to garden/can/small engine repair/butcher/clean/do laundry/cook/knit (one of my sons is still knitting his way through his EE PhD)/wildcraft..all the basics. Maybe they will never need these skills, but knowledge weighs nothing to carry out there into the world.

and welding is not my strong suit, although one of my sons is pretty darn good at it.
hf
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I learned to fix things myself because I could not afford to pay somebody else to do it.

I was always mechanically inclined, for lack of a better term. I always fixed my own cars, etc.

Then I became a homeowner in this armpit of a community about 35 years ago. Something always needed attention. I guess I should be thankful my dad was a journeyman electrician before moving on to engineering. My father in law was an electrician. My wife's grandfather was a plumber (after piloting a B-24 over Europe in WWII). My wife's cousin has a tile business and I worked as a helper when times were tough.

I guess some of it rubbed off on me. I fix everything myself. I do admit the next time I need to pull my well pump, I will likely need some help as that thing seems to have gotten heavier over the years.
 Quoting: Crunch62


So, my well is in my garage. (wtf?) but it used to be across the street, sometime in the last 170 years so I guess that is an improvement especially since across the street is now someone else's property.

But every time it rains hard, the top part of the well was getting submerged in run off and our water would get cloudy (yuck) so I put a sump pump in near our well head, resealed the cap and gave thanks yet again for our Berkey (ftr, one of my kids put a glass of milk into the Berkey and it filtered great although I ended up having to replace the $100 filters)

But yes, necessity is the mother of invention or something like that.

cheers
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Yes, invention due to necessity is a mother...

+1 on the Berkey. The pot growers are putting God knows what on their crops around here. We don't drink the well water anymore without filtration.
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We also filter the well water for drinking/cooking/coffee maker(mostly due to minerals) but live at the top of the hill and are surrounded by certified organic grain fields and orchards thank goodness. I looked at a house that was at the bottom of a hill that was all conventional corn/soybean and passed on it. That well was 12 feet. The one I have now is spring fed and there is a beautiful spring at the bottom of my property line as well.

Love my old house but holy smokes, what a money pit! lol

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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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How do you envision this?

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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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It is wrap it up time. Interstate travel will become restricted at some point. Probably before the end of October.
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How do you envision this?

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At the beginning of the Covid-19 lockdowns my employer put a new policy in place that required employees to request permission to leave the state.

New York has a policy that effectively bans travel from certain states, requiring a two week quarantine on arrival from any of those areas.

It probably wouldn't be a ban on travel since the Constitution prohibits that, it would be burdensome requirements.
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More on potential forbidding of growing one's own food.

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What's the shelf life of wheat?

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Anyone having the desire and wherewithal to pin this thread please do so. I don't have enough green to upgrade myself - first time ever - have spent 200 green trying to upgrade friends and the upgrades won't work, but even Admin cannot return the green to my account. Yechhh Nevertheless, we need to keep the thread available to those in need of life-saving information.

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I’ve been collecting 18650s from throw away laptop batteries or from cheap bats from like batteryhookup or battery learancejouse so I can have nice little power packs to take on the run that can handle running electric stuff like a burner or whatever you can make a lightweight 12v 100AH BAT with a 1000W inverter and you have emergency power for on the run
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A 1000W inverter would likely draw around 100 amps (depending on inverter efficiency). That's a major wiring set up (2 gauge main feeds, series/parallel battery arrangements, etc) and a large number of 18650s (if you can get 4 amps safely from all cheap 18650s that's 100 cells, 25 parallel sets of 4 in series for 14.8 volts no load) to pull that off. You better solder that all up before you lose land power.

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I have a possible solution for mice...moth balls.

About 2 months ago I was in my basement & I heard a mouse scratching...I tossed about 6 moth balls around because it was the only thing I had at the moment (only 6 in various places because I didn't want to stink up the house with moth balls).

Now the nights are getting into the 40's and that's when the mice like to come inside...so I set out 4 glue traps and a few poison baits (as usual for autumn).

After 2 weeks I have nothing in the traps and no baits have been touched.

I think the moth balls annoyed any critters enough to leave.

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