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Time for a subject change, seems to me.

It's nearly spring, thank the good Lord, and that means time for starting seeds. I hope many now "get" how important growing your own food is, and that we cannot refuse to expend the work and energy any longer, but MUST get on it.

This year make a commmitment to yourself, if you are a newbie at growing things, to work at growing a set number and type of thing. Radishes grow easier than anything else, so put those at the top of your list. Radish and lettuce seed mixed together means radishes will break the surface of the soil, allowing lettuce seed to come up. Pick a few more of your favorites, and get to work.

All seed beds MUST be watered at least once a day until the seeds come up. Just soak the surface, so that the soil remains damp and the seedlings can break through. No water equals dead seeds.

Learn to watch for bugs predating your plants, and learn to water appropriately and sufficiently. After seeds break through soil, you must water to below the level of the bottom of roots. Otherwise the roots turn upward looking for water and thus end up sickly plants, soon to die. After you have watered as much as you believe necessary, stick your finger down in the dirt as far as it will go, and see how far down the soil is watered. Doubt it is as much as half an inch - only enough to sicken and kill the plant.

Okay, there's a start - who is on board to start gardening? I'll talk you through it, newbies, as long as you are working at it.
 Quoting: Pooka


The heirloom corn I have takes 120 days to grow. I have a variety of sweet corn that only takes 90 days to grow (golden bantam). I've been thinking I should really try that seed...but it's very old :(

I'll be amazed if I can get any to sprout!

- MC
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I have seen this Pooka, heard the Banshide...

Oh well Oh well...
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off to me cott cwipple of our world...

Blessings be upon all O' us....

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Interesting read. [link to www.askaprepper.com (secure)]

People will (in most environments) look at you askew if you carry a walking stick. Pay them no heed.
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I have seen this Pooka, heard the Banshide...

Oh well Oh well...
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Sowwy? Didn't get it. Never mind. I had temporarily forgot who the Banshide is - and I am sorry you have heard her. However, I feel her coming closer. Not quite within sound yet, but definitely nearer than six months ago.

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off to me cott cwipple of our world...

Blessings be upon all O' us....

Blessings agut, Dia agus 2 one N all...
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Feeling like I'm the cripple - definitely walk like it these days.
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Interesting read. [link to www.askaprepper.com (secure)]

People will (in most environments) look at you askew if you carry a walking stick. Pay them no heed.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


Love this!!! I used to walk with a cane always, and it was considered sexy.

I wouldn't care what people thought of me using a walking stick, and if they in fact saw me walking, they would quickly grasp why I needed it.

The article you linked has even more uses for the stick than I had considered, and I like it very much. It is great for safer walking, indeed - hang your belongings in a neckerchief or a burlap bag on the crook of it and save on your hands.

Thank you for the excellent post, Lance. 'Preciate you!
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There's a factoid to scare a person thoroughly! YIKES!!
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Yup. From the internet, hackers can mess with water, electric, nat-gas, traffic lights, communications, banking records, hospital records, pharmacy records, etc. etc.

Now is more important than ever to be prepped!

- MC



Absolutely! We MUST keep our heads on a swivel and be ready for everything and anything. Need to have anything at all that we might ever need right under our roofs and/or in our vehicles, because we don't know where the threat may come from, ever.

Water water water - we cannot have enough water, for so many reasons. Water purification methods - not just boiling, which may be ideal, but not always convenient and perhaps not even possible. Have tablets for purification, and bleach or, preferably, pool shock, and Sawyer minis. All the above, the more the merrier.

Have your new bathroom ready to go at a moment's notice, not trying to hold off and get the necessities when you begin to see it might be necessary. That's a huge mistake many make in prepping - waiting til the last moment, which does not exist.

Be certain to have forms of entertainment for all ages of your family. Preferably most which do not use batteries. Books, games, crayons, painting supplies - even paint by number just for relaxing. Remember that your children will gain age and change interests during this time, so account for that in your entertainment preps. Same with foods.

Some here do not have access to youtube - we don't need any comments about why that is - but anything you can think of that you have only seen recommended on youtube please post here for their assistance and advantage.

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The heirloom corn I have takes 120 days to grow. I have a variety of sweet corn that only takes 90 days to grow (golden bantam). I've been thinking I should really try that seed...but it's very old :(

I'll be amazed if I can get any to sprout!

- MC
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Corn does not do well at transplanting, even from little things where you started it inside. You could make cups from newspaper, or use those little cups made to plant in the ground, and start that excellent corn indoors, to see what will germinate, before taking up landscape with it.

As first - I have dibs on some of that corn seed, perhaps half a dozen, if it does well and you get to the seed-saving point. We have pretty short seasons here, and not very warm generally, so corn can be a difficulty. Would love just a few ears of my own home-grown.

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The heirloom corn I have takes 120 days to grow. I have a variety of sweet corn that only takes 90 days to grow (golden bantam). I've been thinking I should really try that seed...but it's very old :(

I'll be amazed if I can get any to sprout!

- MC
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Corn does not do well at transplanting, even from little things where you started it inside. You could make cups from newspaper, or use those little cups made to plant in the ground, and start that excellent corn indoors, to see what will germinate, before taking up landscape with it.

As first - I have dibs on some of that corn seed, perhaps half a dozen, if it does well and you get to the seed-saving point. We have pretty short seasons here, and not very warm generally, so corn can be a difficulty. Would love just a few ears of my own home-grown.
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'He who plants only corn, harvests only tears'...that was a quote I stole in the Mountains of Mexico...no attribution is possible.
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The heirloom corn I have takes 120 days to grow. I have a variety of sweet corn that only takes 90 days to grow (golden bantam). I've been thinking I should really try that seed...but it's very old :(

I'll be amazed if I can get any to sprout!

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80075339


Corn does not do well at transplanting, even from little things where you started it inside. You could make cups from newspaper, or use those little cups made to plant in the ground, and start that excellent corn indoors, to see what will germinate, before taking up landscape with it.

As first - I have dibs on some of that corn seed, perhaps half a dozen, if it does well and you get to the seed-saving point. We have pretty short seasons here, and not very warm generally, so corn can be a difficulty. Would love just a few ears of my own home-grown.
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I have flour-corn seed I could let you have now with a 98% sprout rate.

But it ain't sweet corn and it takes 120 days to grow. It has a high starch content so it's used for grinding into flour. (basically there is sweet corn, dent corn, and flour corn).

- MC
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Love it! And find it true!
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I have flour-corn seed I could let you have now with a 98% sprout rate.

But it ain't sweet corn and it takes 120 days to grow. It has a high starch content so it's used for grinding into flour. (basically there is sweet corn, dent corn, and flour corn).

- MC
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No, thank you. I have several kinds of corn seed.
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Reminder: Fuel and energy are used at every imaginable stage of food production.

As we watch fuel and energy prices go up...food prices will rise as well. And ESPECIALLY paper products!

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Reminder: Fuel and energy are used at every imaginable stage of food production.

As we watch fuel and energy prices go up...food prices will rise as well. And ESPECIALLY paper products!

- MC
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Also do remember that corn is used in the production of nearly everything - food and even many non-foods - so absence of good corn crops means absence of many, many products.
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Reminder: Fuel and energy are used at every imaginable stage of food production.

As we watch fuel and energy prices go up...food prices will rise as well. And ESPECIALLY paper products!

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80017521


Also do remember that corn is used in the production of nearly everything - food and even many non-foods - so absence of good corn crops means absence of many, many products.
 Quoting: Pooka


Hi, Pooka.

Well, here we are nearing Spring planting again.

I have all of my seeds ready. However, I need to move the chicken yard fence and cut down a few small oak trees.

Had a huge oak in the middle of the chicken yard. However, it was diseased at the base, and one night a year ago one of the tow trunks about 2 feet in diameter and 70 feet long fell on my barn.

I nearly fell off the barn roof while cutting it, so I decided that work is for young, agile folk now. As I slid down the sheet metal I let the saw fall off the roof and I used my hands to grab the ladder. Better to buy a new saw and save my hide!

Back in Dec. I had a contractor put a new roof on the barn. He had an assistant cut down the other half of the oak of the same size. I pulled it over with the tractor while he cut so it did not fall on the barn like before.

It took me about a week to cut it up with a chainsaw. However, I am getting stronger and can cut faster now. When I am done with the hydraulic splitter, I will have a LOT of firewood for prep.

Now, that chicken yard is not shady and is loaded with nutrients deposited over the years by my chickens.

That is the primary area that I will plant this year.

I have four cows in the pasture and one dairy cow in the front yard. All of them are turning hay into wonderful fertilizer for me.

I will slaughter one of the ones in the pasture and move the dairy cow, "Sweetheart", to the back pasture. The front yard will be excellent for low demand veggies such as okra and green beans.

I will then plant the field in the pasture to sunflowers and possibly some veggies that do well here. Will use electric fence to keep the cow off the crops.

We are NOT fully self-sufficient, but working on it.

When the big freeze hit Texas I was sorry I had not installed the wood stove in the house. It still sits by the barn.

However, I was well prepared with candles and kerosene lanterns which heated the house enough to be comfy.

We cooked outdoors on a propane burner, so I did not go without coffee!

Looking at the overall situation, I was WRONG about how fast the pandemic, economic depression, etc. would cause a crash. Our society is remarkably resilient.

However, the Big Freeze taught a lot of folks the value of being prepared.

I still expect more economic doom ahead.

For me, prepping is a multi year lifestyle. It was always something I wanted to do, and now we are well on our way to success.
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Reading my own post and need to clarify.

I plan to sell three of the cows in the back pasture. No room in the freezer for so many. The one I will slaughter is a young Jersey bull so worth more as hamburger and soup bones.

There were TWO trunks on that oak, not "tow". Duh.

I should add that my productivity is down since I passed 70. I planned all of my tree felling and firewood prep for January. Behind schedule but I can keep cutting thru the Summer.

We will end up with years of firewood. TBH, I am prepping so that my wife will never run out even if I am not here someday to fell trees and split wood.

Every prep I do is with my wife and extended family in mind. Not just working for personal survival.
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Got a deal on a brand new wood splitter today. Normally about $1500 at Home Depot. Got it for $800. Brand new.
Runs great.

The guys selling it were operating out of a garage. Hmmm? Wonder where they got all the stuff they are selling?

Will have plenty of firewood for next year.

I am living The Life! The Queen cooked steaks, potatoes, rice, and tortillas on her outdoor wood kitchen tonight.

Enjoying the end of dinner with some Pinot Noir.

One of my preps was a bunch of frozen pineapple juice, 5 gallon jugs, and fruit wine yeast. When the Pinot starts running out, will try making pineapple wine.

Price per glass will be about one half of what I pay at the store for a cheap, table wine.

One other prep was a bunch of jugs of vinegar and 100 lbs. of salt. If you have those, you can preserve a lot of food in case electricity fails. If SHTF does NOT come, we will use those anyway.
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Hey all!~

Thank ya all for the green.

Pinning again cause I so think this thread can help so many.

Blessings and Much Love!~

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re: pooping

lived once in a situation where I had access only to a warm interior, no plumbing.

Got a 5 gallon bucket, a toilet seat, plastic garbage bags.

Propped the bucket with the seat on top against a wall, put a bag in to line it, and hightailed it to home depot where they were happy to supply me with all the free sawdust I wanted. They put it in big black plastic bags, and I picked it up. I'd tell them a day or two before i needed it and they got it for me every time.

so you put the sawdust at the bottom of the bag, do your business, then cover it completely with another layer of sawdust.

doesn't matter if you pee and poop together.., I am a woman, i did so, the layer of sawdust on top prevented any smell from being released.

Someone with room to store it could likely get a large amt of sawdust.

It works better than cat litter and dried leaves.
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having the industrial strength trash bags from hardware stores are beneficial too.


you can wrap saplings in a circle and put the bag down thru the middle and make a raft.

you can use as a sleeping bag to trap heat.

dry storage to keep things dry

cut it down the side and make a tent/tarp shelter.

us it as a layer and barrier to waterproof a more permanent lean to shelter.

Dollar stores are great too, I have bought dental floss for many uses, tampons for packing gauze and fire starter, hand sanitizer for wound care and fire starter extender, saws, small crow bars, box cutters for skinning game, long burn candles, sterno, batteries and tons of other things.

shower curtains for water proofing lean to or other wooden shelters


Google $1 store preps for some other ideas

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Got a deal on a brand new wood splitter today. Normally about $1500 at Home Depot. Got it for $800. Brand new.
Runs great.

The guys selling it were operating out of a garage. Hmmm? Wonder where they got all the stuff they are selling?

Will have plenty of firewood for next year.

I am living The Life! The Queen cooked steaks, potatoes, rice, and tortillas on her outdoor wood kitchen tonight.

Enjoying the end of dinner with some Pinot Noir.

One of my preps was a bunch of frozen pineapple juice, 5 gallon jugs, and fruit wine yeast. When the Pinot starts running out, will try making pineapple wine.

Price per glass will be about one half of what I pay at the store for a cheap, table wine.

One other prep was a bunch of jugs of vinegar and 100 lbs. of salt. If you have those, you can preserve a lot of food in case electricity fails. If SHTF does NOT come, we will use those anyway.
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i watch moonshiners quite a bit and i know you can make your own moonshine for personal consumption. I have thought about looking for a mini still to have to make alcohol to barter with in shtf scenarios. I live near the moonshine capitol of the world. Need to get some yeast i guess
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SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
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Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Plant perennials. Purslane is one I'm looking forward to see coming up again. With the weather changes we should focus on them. Comfrey is a must.....
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Reminder: Fuel and energy are used at every imaginable stage of food production.

As we watch fuel and energy prices go up...food prices will rise as well. And ESPECIALLY paper products!

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80017521


Also do remember that corn is used in the production of nearly everything - food and even many non-foods - so absence of good corn crops means absence of many, many products.
 Quoting: Pooka


An old Mexican saying...he who only plants corn, harvests only misery.
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I removed a couple posts - one for insulting the entire thread and another for repeating that post as well as arguing.
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There is no prepping for Communism, other than prepping your soul.
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I removed a couple posts - one for insulting the entire thread and another for repeating that post as well as arguing.
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'Tis your role.
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Reminder: Fuel and energy are used at every imaginable stage of food production.

As we watch fuel and energy prices go up...food prices will rise as well. And ESPECIALLY paper products!

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80017521


Also do remember that corn is used in the production of nearly everything - food and even many non-foods - so absence of good corn crops means absence of many, many products.
 Quoting: Pooka


An old Mexican saying...he who only plants corn, harvests only misery.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC



Keyword: "only".

- MC





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