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Do not go to New Mexico..... looming water crisis

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Your SA idea was better if you hang in for the waves to pass.
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NM has problems with irrigation water down in the valleys.

However, the water in the mountains comes from yearly rain and snow melt replenishing the aquifers.

For example, the place I am looking at has over 70 inches of snow fall yearly on average.

Ref permaculture, I don't think I can do much of any kind of ag when the night temps in the summer average in the 40s.

One of the reasons I looked at New Mexico is that you can find relatively dry, mild weather above 7,000 feet. Farther north that altitude is near tree line.

BTW, my father was a cowboy from NM. When he retired he bought a small 825 acre ranch up near Las Vegas. He lived above 6,000 feet but had enough rainfall to grow corn and beans.
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Do not go to New Mexico..... looming water crisis

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Your SA idea was better if you hang in for the waves to pass.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


NM has problems with irrigation water down in the valleys.

However, the water in the mountains comes from yearly rain and snow melt replenishing the aquifers.

For example, the place I am looking at has over 70 inches of snow fall yearly on average.

Ref permaculture, I don't think I can do much of any kind of ag when the night temps in the summer average in the 40s.

One of the reasons I looked at New Mexico is that you can find relatively dry, mild weather above 7,000 feet. Farther north that altitude is near tree line.

BTW, my father was a cowboy from NM. When he retired he bought a small 825 acre ranch up near Las Vegas. He lived above 6,000 feet but had enough rainfall to grow corn and beans.
 Quoting: darth


Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
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Ref the comment about moving to Central America, I have not totally discarded that option.

I speak Spanish and have a lot of wonderful family down there with a choice of several countries to live in.

However, if the micro nova, pole flip hypotheses have any truth to them, the waves crossing Central America will NOT be survivable in any kind of shelter I can design.

Plus, that entire area is full of volcanoes that will be lighting up.

So, the mountain you decided to dig your cave/refuge into turns out to be an active volcano.

I also like NM because my kids, grand kids, etc. can come visit easily and not have to fly in.

Lastly, remember that this is a business idea, so I need to be near customers.
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Do not go to New Mexico..... looming water crisis

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Your SA idea was better if you hang in for the waves to pass.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


NM has problems with irrigation water down in the valleys.

However, the water in the mountains comes from yearly rain and snow melt replenishing the aquifers.

For example, the place I am looking at has over 70 inches of snow fall yearly on average.

Ref permaculture, I don't think I can do much of any kind of ag when the night temps in the summer average in the 40s.

One of the reasons I looked at New Mexico is that you can find relatively dry, mild weather above 7,000 feet. Farther north that altitude is near tree line.

BTW, my father was a cowboy from NM. When he retired he bought a small 825 acre ranch up near Las Vegas. He lived above 6,000 feet but had enough rainfall to grow corn and beans.
 Quoting: darth


Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
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Do not go to New Mexico..... looming water crisis

[link to nypost.com (secure)]

Your SA idea was better if you hang in for the waves to pass.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


NM has problems with irrigation water down in the valleys.

However, the water in the mountains comes from yearly rain and snow melt replenishing the aquifers.

For example, the place I am looking at has over 70 inches of snow fall yearly on average.

Ref permaculture, I don't think I can do much of any kind of ag when the night temps in the summer average in the 40s.

One of the reasons I looked at New Mexico is that you can find relatively dry, mild weather above 7,000 feet. Farther north that altitude is near tree line.

BTW, my father was a cowboy from NM. When he retired he bought a small 825 acre ranch up near Las Vegas. He lived above 6,000 feet but had enough rainfall to grow corn and beans.
 Quoting: darth


Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
 Quoting: darth


OK, I read the stories at the link.

Jack Spirko, who I listen to, is also a promoter of permaculture.

When I think of being a prepper at that altitude with that climate, I am thinking that some fruit trees are possible. A veggie garden will need a greenhouse.

Of course, we can also build a barn and board horses for people.

I would almost certainly build a good chicken house and yard since I love my fresh eggs more than almost any food that I grow. We rotate chickens through our garden areas here with great success. My chickens clean up the garden while consuming bugs and depositing wonderful fertilizer.

BTW, we have about 30 baby geese I just hatched out of the incubator. They would survive the cold climate there just fine as long as I can keep coyotes and bears away from them.
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NM has problems with irrigation water down in the valleys.

However, the water in the mountains comes from yearly rain and snow melt replenishing the aquifers.

For example, the place I am looking at has over 70 inches of snow fall yearly on average.

Ref permaculture, I don't think I can do much of any kind of ag when the night temps in the summer average in the 40s.

One of the reasons I looked at New Mexico is that you can find relatively dry, mild weather above 7,000 feet. Farther north that altitude is near tree line.

BTW, my father was a cowboy from NM. When he retired he bought a small 825 acre ranch up near Las Vegas. He lived above 6,000 feet but had enough rainfall to grow corn and beans.
 Quoting: darth


Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
 Quoting: darth


OK, I read the stories at the link.

Jack Spirko, who I listen to, is also a promoter of permaculture.

When I think of being a prepper at that altitude with that climate, I am thinking that some fruit trees are possible. A veggie garden will need a greenhouse.

Of course, we can also build a barn and board horses for people.

I would almost certainly build a good chicken house and yard since I love my fresh eggs more than almost any food that I grow. We rotate chickens through our garden areas here with great success. My chickens clean up the garden while consuming bugs and depositing wonderful fertilizer.

BTW, we have about 30 baby geese I just hatched out of the incubator. They would survive the cold climate there just fine as long as I can keep coyotes and bears away from them.
 Quoting: darth


These are pretty hardy and feed off ticks
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Ref the comment about moving to Central America, I have not totally discarded that option.

I speak Spanish and have a lot of wonderful family down there with a choice of several countries to live in.

However, if the micro nova, pole flip hypotheses have any truth to them, the waves crossing Central America will NOT be survivable in any kind of shelter I can design.

Plus, that entire area is full of volcanoes that will be lighting up.

So, the mountain you decided to dig your cave/refuge into turns out to be an active volcano.

I also like NM because my kids, grand kids, etc. can come visit easily and not have to fly in.

Lastly, remember that this is a business idea, so I need to be near customers.
 Quoting: darth


Yeah... the only good place for SA is north western Brazil...... if I were planning that.... I would wait for this first nightmare to pass.

Ref the customers.....you gotta be able to survive a complete economic depression .... minimum 5 years.... if we’re lucky.

That’s why your farm was so perfect. But yeah.... I can see the appeal.
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Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
 Quoting: darth


OK, I read the stories at the link.

Jack Spirko, who I listen to, is also a promoter of permaculture.

When I think of being a prepper at that altitude with that climate, I am thinking that some fruit trees are possible. A veggie garden will need a greenhouse.

Of course, we can also build a barn and board horses for people.

I would almost certainly build a good chicken house and yard since I love my fresh eggs more than almost any food that I grow. We rotate chickens through our garden areas here with great success. My chickens clean up the garden while consuming bugs and depositing wonderful fertilizer.

BTW, we have about 30 baby geese I just hatched out of the incubator. They would survive the cold climate there just fine as long as I can keep coyotes and bears away from them.
 Quoting: darth


These are pretty hardy and feed off ticks
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 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


I tried Guineas a few years ago. They are a popular substitute for turkeys in Central America.

They began eating chicken eggs, so I moved them to my pasture with the cows.

Unfortunately, a bobcat ate them all in about a week.

I do LOVE that they each harmful bugs.

BTW, I have never seen a tick in this part of Texas. The fire ants eat them which is the only redeeming quality of fire ants.
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ARGH! Each = EAT

I think my brain is not running on all cylinders tonight.
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With our current situation I thought placing this here would be a good idea.

Stay safe, Much love~


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With our current situation I thought placing this here would be a good idea.

Stay safe, Much love~


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The one thing we have an abundance of here is clay. Red clay.

Thanks for that!
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With our current situation I thought placing this here would be a good idea.

Stay safe, Much love~


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The one thing we have an abundance of here is clay. Red clay.

Thanks for that!
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NM has problems with irrigation water down in the valleys.

However, the water in the mountains comes from yearly rain and snow melt replenishing the aquifers.

For example, the place I am looking at has over 70 inches of snow fall yearly on average.

Ref permaculture, I don't think I can do much of any kind of ag when the night temps in the summer average in the 40s.

One of the reasons I looked at New Mexico is that you can find relatively dry, mild weather above 7,000 feet. Farther north that altitude is near tree line.

BTW, my father was a cowboy from NM. When he retired he bought a small 825 acre ranch up near Las Vegas. He lived above 6,000 feet but had enough rainfall to grow corn and beans.
 Quoting: darth


Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
 Quoting: darth


OK, I read the stories at the link.

Jack Spirko, who I listen to, is also a promoter of permaculture.

When I think of being a prepper at that altitude with that climate, I am thinking that some fruit trees are possible. A veggie garden will need a greenhouse.

Of course, we can also build a barn and board horses for people.

I would almost certainly build a good chicken house and yard since I love my fresh eggs more than almost any food that I grow. We rotate chickens through our garden areas here with great success. My chickens clean up the garden while consuming bugs and depositing wonderful fertilizer.

BTW, we have about 30 baby geese I just hatched out of the incubator. They would survive the cold climate there just fine as long as I can keep coyotes and bears away from them.
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Darth, look into the possibility of building a walipini on your new property. It's an old concept and makes wonderful sense. Just watch out for those scorpions in NM! I went to school in Artesia and used to go camping up in Cloudcroft area, extremely beautiful, garden of eden vibes up there!
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Scott lives where you are typing about? He lives at a fairly high elevation zone. I'm not taking the piss. I'm telling you you have a contact if you connect and say 'Lance WIldwood' said I might learn something from you vis a vi buying a property near you. This is my student (first) and a student of Scott's. [link to permaculture.org (secure)] Dive in, don't diss. The reason for people who know things you don't, is so that you can learn things you never imagined.
 Quoting: Saint Lance the Odd from BC


OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
 Quoting: darth


OK, I read the stories at the link.

Jack Spirko, who I listen to, is also a promoter of permaculture.

When I think of being a prepper at that altitude with that climate, I am thinking that some fruit trees are possible. A veggie garden will need a greenhouse.

Of course, we can also build a barn and board horses for people.

I would almost certainly build a good chicken house and yard since I love my fresh eggs more than almost any food that I grow. We rotate chickens through our garden areas here with great success. My chickens clean up the garden while consuming bugs and depositing wonderful fertilizer.

BTW, we have about 30 baby geese I just hatched out of the incubator. They would survive the cold climate there just fine as long as I can keep coyotes and bears away from them.
 Quoting: darth


Darth, look into the possibility of building a walipini on your new property. It's an old concept and makes wonderful sense. Just watch out for those scorpions in NM! I went to school in Artesia and used to go camping up in Cloudcroft area, extremely beautiful, garden of eden vibes up there!
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 Quoting: Windsage


Excellent idea! Thanks.

Yes, NM has scorpions, rattlers, etc. Up where I am looking you have to protect your livestock from the bears.

A relative of mine had a home in Ruidoso. She was cooking waffles for our breakfast.

Suddenly, there was a commotion of birds out in the back yard. I walked to the sliding glass door which was open.

There was a 300 lb. black bear standing there close enough that I could have reached out and touched his nose.

He wanted some WAFFLES!

I simply closed the glass door and he ran away.

No breakfast for bruin.
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If there is a Grocery Outlet store near you, they have some great prices on canned foods, and they have sea salt in one pound containers for a dollar each, good price. They are sometimes hit or miss on what's available, and watch out for the "Use by" dates, but you can get some great bargains there.
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OK, I did not understand your comment at first.

Not dissing; I simply think ag would be difficult.

Checking your link now.

And THANKS for the tip!
 Quoting: darth


OK, I read the stories at the link.

Jack Spirko, who I listen to, is also a promoter of permaculture.

When I think of being a prepper at that altitude with that climate, I am thinking that some fruit trees are possible. A veggie garden will need a greenhouse.

Of course, we can also build a barn and board horses for people.

I would almost certainly build a good chicken house and yard since I love my fresh eggs more than almost any food that I grow. We rotate chickens through our garden areas here with great success. My chickens clean up the garden while consuming bugs and depositing wonderful fertilizer.

BTW, we have about 30 baby geese I just hatched out of the incubator. They would survive the cold climate there just fine as long as I can keep coyotes and bears away from them.
 Quoting: darth


Darth, look into the possibility of building a walipini on your new property. It's an old concept and makes wonderful sense. Just watch out for those scorpions in NM! I went to school in Artesia and used to go camping up in Cloudcroft area, extremely beautiful, garden of eden vibes up there!
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 Quoting: Windsage


Excellent idea! Thanks.

Yes, NM has scorpions, rattlers, etc. Up where I am looking you have to protect your livestock from the bears.

A relative of mine had a home in Ruidoso. She was cooking waffles for our breakfast.

Suddenly, there was a commotion of birds out in the back yard. I walked to the sliding glass door which was open.

There was a 300 lb. black bear standing there close enough that I could have reached out and touched his nose.

He wanted some WAFFLES!

I simply closed the glass door and he ran away.

No breakfast for bruin.
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hiding I live in north Idaho, we have bears up here, too! My trash can lid has teeth marks....
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I was not there, but my parents went camping with the rest of the family in Cloudcroft. They were at a National Forest campground.

They heard a commotion outside at about midnight.

There was a bear sitting there on its butt with their ice chest in his lap. He ripped the lid off with his jaws.

He expertly pulled out a jar of mayo and UNSCREWED the top with his jaws and paws before licking out the contents. He did not break the glass jar. Ate a pound of bacon plastic and all.

They could do nothing but watch.
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If there is a Grocery Outlet store near you, they have some great prices on canned foods, and they have sea salt in one pound containers for a dollar each, good price. They are sometimes hit or miss on what's available, and watch out for the "Use by" dates, but you can get some great bargains there.
 Quoting: Windsage


Grocery Outlet is my go-to for sure.

They have the best price on organic ground beef in town. Also the best price on butter. A great wine selection, too!
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You should read this thread...LOTS of good info! Tart cherries to stop inflammation...other health info too.

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More evidence the system is breaking down...the ORGANIC section in my grocery store is gone.

They have scattered the organic items in with the regular items...there were so few organic items it would have looked pathetic.

The organic juice was now mixed in with the Hi-C and the V-8. They had no organic cranberry juice...2 black-sherry (I took them both)...and about 8 blueberry (I took 2).

I doubt we will see any more.

I also noticed a can of "Super Greens" nutrition powder was half the size at the same price.

Many MANY items out of stock or low.

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Local basil seeds are really hard to find. I bet it because it is easily grown indoors and the seed producers weren't thinking about that aspect. Best item for seed storage, for most, obviously not all...an ammo case. Kept in a cool place.
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There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents

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Any idea if those are available to the public?
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It is elemental iron, has a gray, flaky appearance. Easy to obtain, must be stored without oxygen or water
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There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents

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Any idea if those are available to the public?
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It is elemental iron
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There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents

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Any idea if those are available to the public?
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It is elemental iron
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You can find this iron material in hand warmer packets.

However, when I used to go backpacking on short trips, I preferred my stove made out of a tuna can which weighed about one ounce. Burned hexamine tablets in it to warm up water for coffee, instant oatmeal, etc. No smoke for those who want to be stealthy.

BTW, check out utube backpacking videos. You can make your own equivalent to MREs much cheaper.

One of my faves was using dry potato flakes, powdered milk, and parmesan cheese along with some spices in a ziplock. Add to hot water and get potato cheese soup in minutes.

There are lots more recipes online.
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Forget the hexane...use twigs
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04/26/2021 04:12 AM
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More evidence the system is breaking down...the ORGANIC section in my grocery store is gone.

They have scattered the organic items in with the regular items...there were so few organic items it would have looked pathetic.

The organic juice was now mixed in with the Hi-C and the V-8. They had no organic cranberry juice...2 black-sherry (I took them both)...and about 8 blueberry (I took 2).

I doubt we will see any more.

I also noticed a can of "Super Greens" nutrition powder was half the size at the same price.

Many MANY items out of stock or low.

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My local Super1 market in north Idaho was almost completely out of canned cat food. I asked the assistant manager who was checking my groceries what happened to all the cat food. He said they were having trouble getting the re-order in, and he added that there were many things that they weren't able to stock. The suppliers just don't have it. Now if you think about it, there is no obvious reason for this, as covid is not as big a deal anymore. Quarantines have been lifted, trucks are rolling, spring is in the air. But the shelves are starting to be empty AGAIN.

So anybody who is not stocking up on essentials is going to be sorry in a couple of months.
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04/26/2021 04:51 AM

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More evidence the system is breaking down...the ORGANIC section in my grocery store is gone.

They have scattered the organic items in with the regular items...there were so few organic items it would have looked pathetic.

The organic juice was now mixed in with the Hi-C and the V-8. They had no organic cranberry juice...2 black-sherry (I took them both)...and about 8 blueberry (I took 2).

I doubt we will see any more.

I also noticed a can of "Super Greens" nutrition powder was half the size at the same price.

Many MANY items out of stock or low.

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78295595


My local Super1 market in north Idaho was almost completely out of canned cat food. I asked the assistant manager who was checking my groceries what happened to all the cat food. He said they were having trouble getting the re-order in, and he added that there were many things that they weren't able to stock. The suppliers just don't have it. Now if you think about it, there is no obvious reason for this, as covid is not as big a deal anymore. Quarantines have been lifted, trucks are rolling, spring is in the air. But the shelves are starting to be empty AGAIN.

So anybody who is not stocking up on essentials is going to be sorry in a couple of months.
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No reason? Something Shakespeare never said was 'you've got to be kidding'! The Evergreen jamming and delaying shipping was a VERY bid deal. When you look at a product, lets say canned cat food, where do the components come from? The metal for the can may be mined up State, but it is then shipped to ????? for processing and conversion into the simple can. That can may then be shipped somewhere else to be filled and sealed. Then shipped back to wherever the company that 'makes it' is located to be labeled. It then goes out to the wholesalers who ship it to the POS companies. ONE 'glitch', like the butterfly wing causing a wind storm in SIberia, and it all breaks down fairly rapidly. 'Made in the USA', or for me 'Canada' may just be stating where the label was printed.

Edit 'forgot the alternative duh'!
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04/26/2021 05:11 AM

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Now that I started thinking along the lines of cat food...which in a SHTF scenario you would either eat or make it learn to live outdoors, dogs shouldn't roam or they will pack up. So...if you want to be a good neighbour should it come to it, you would have to either turn fido into a stew or find a way to provide for him/her.
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In fact it might be time to repost that whole forums link
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These are people who are actively designing resilience, not just prepping for 'some day'. Plus they are fun though I don't visit there often.
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