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At my wits end and need advice regarding my grandparents and odd things going on at their apartment.

 
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At my wits end and need advice regarding my grandparents and odd things going on at their apartment.
I really dont know what to do anymore and am so sick and confused and just lost about who to turn to other than just praying and trusting in the Lord to prevail. Whats going on is that my grandmother has been experiencing very severe hallucinations or signs of dementia/schizophrenia basically telling my grandfather that theres ladies in the living room or in the air vents that keep singing to him all night long and begins to accuse my grandfather of covering up the fact that theyre there and yelling at him that he refuses to tell them to leave because he is having some sort of affair with them. She’ll drag me into this to get me on her side saying surely I hear them too and now she thinks im trying to cover for my grandfather.

When this happens he gets fearful and agitated and just prays against it claiming its attacks from the enemy or demons trying to tear their marriage apart and while I agree that spiritual warfare is very real, it upsets me that he says this because she is very obviously not well and needs medical evaluation but he says she refuses to go to a doctor and he isnt going to make her go and I really feel its getting to the point where we need to have her committed if thats the only way we can get doctors to see whats actually going on why shes having these symptoms.

The thing thats really weirding me out even more is that she kept saying she was hearing people outside in the parking lot outside her bedroom window and they were taunting her calling her name but me and my grandfather both didnt hear anyone or see anyone outside. But yesterday we had a local internet provider come install home internet and they had to run a line from the box outside, drill into the wall to the apartment unit and run the coaxial cable to the modem and well this morning our service was off suddenly and after resetting the modem and troubleshooting I went outside to look and the entire cable itself had been severed. I dont want to seem paranoid more than I already am but I just dont understand if someone is specifically targeting my grandparents to torment them or what but now im wondering if theres more truth to what shes experiencing that we thought were hallucinations?

I notified the apartment complex about this and its documented. The local police cant really do anything about it and theres no cameras in the apartment parking lot so its going to be really difficult to do anything to stop this from happening again. The ISP tech is coming out to repair the line tomorrow im just worried its going to keep happening and dont know what I should do.

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My grandparents dont really leave the house ever, my grandfather is retired and only leaves to go to the store for groceries or to take grandma to doctors appointments but it concerns me because he is very outspoken about his faith in Jesus Christ and hes the type to randomly evangelize to people and with the sociopolitical climate as heated as it is I worry if maybe someone got rubbed the wrong way by something he said and now theyre harassing them for it? Im not saying thats for sure whats going on just one option. Aside from that its a very small apartment building with only anout 20 or so tenants and not one with a lot of young kids or riff raff. The other weird thing is the neighbors next to us will often bang on the walls at odd hours of the night but we never see anyone over there and Ive tried going next door to talk to them about it but no one comes to the door and that really freaks me out.

Just wanted to get some feedback or suggestions on how to handle this. Also please pray for us if you are the praying type. I really appreciate it.

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If you treat it like someone is messing with you, it could be easier to understand? And tell grandma what is going on so she can know the voices are not her husbands girlfriends. Set some baby monitors up here and there. cheap and easy method of surveillance. Definitely let gm know you all think this is going on etc etc.. at least calm her down some. sounds horrible..

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That's so terrible. It's hard to tell what's really going on even if you do find a way to get her evaluated. It's probably both. I'll send some prayers your way. Best wishes.

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... seems some good security monitoring is in order! ...
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Setup a $60 Foscam camera and let it record onto a flash drive for a few days.
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Setup a $60 Foscam camera and let it record onto a flash drive for a few days.
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Ill look into this thank you.
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I have talked to senior citizens a lot in the
past years. A few of them became like your
grandmother. One lady told me that strangers
would come into her kitchen and cook while she
was trying to wash dishes. She yelled and screamed
at them to no avail. She drove the police crazy
with her " strangers " harassing her.
Its one of the effects of alzheimers disease.
Your grandmother needs help and to make sure
those around her understand what is happening to
her and her husband. There may be help out
there from alternative medicine. You have to
look for it.
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You need to get her to go to the mental health doctor so they can help evaluat her. My mother has schizophrenia, and has similar thoughts, so I am very familiar. However, she has been like that since her early 20's. Your Grandmother may have something that can be treated. In general, I am against taking any long term pharmaceuticals, but my Mom really needs them or can't manage to overcome her paranoia.
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You can get some cheap (price)ip cameras on Amazon for about $30. I have had these for about 4 years. They record about 10 seconds if there is any kind of motion and that service is free. All you buy is the camera. No subscriptions or monthly fees of any kind. You do need wifi though and setup is super easy. You can see whats going on in real time any time from your smart phone.

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Crazy story. On one hand you have your grandma hearing things, but maybe it could be she's hearing the people that sliced your cable? The christ spreading gandpa might have made the neighbor mad since they don't answer? Or maybe they're using headphones possibly removed a hearing aid? Are they getting their nutrients? Coconut oil, tumeric, and cardio might improve their status.

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I’m sorry but what a bitch to accuse your grandpa of having affairs with her hallucinations. I can’t stand people like that. Yea she may be losing it, but you know he’s probably had to deal with her insecurity from way back.
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I’m sorry but what a bitch to accuse your grandpa of having affairs with her hallucinations. I can’t stand people like that. Yea she may be losing it, but you know he’s probably had to deal with her insecurity from way back.
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He really has had to deal with a lot but at the same time as an outside observer its really sad because she definitely is not well and something is causing her to believe these things as if they are a reality and she needs to get checked out but I dont know how to get her help.
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sounds to me like there is something toxic in their environment... new cell towers??? a new smart meter installed, how about black mold (in the basement) behind the walls in a bathroom ... do they have "pest control" who spray glyposate around the house to keep out bugs ...

last but not least ... what are they eating, is it organic like the food they were raised on ... are they getting all the nutrients (iodine) are they drinking tap water

why aren't your parents dealing with their parents ... why are you involved ... do you think you will inherit if they are moved to an Assisted living complex ? have you checked their meds for conflicts ...
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Is she on any meds? Any new meds? My grandmother takes Ambien and does alot of what you said your grandmother is doing. Almost to the T. She mostly does all of it after taking it, hallucinations and delusions wise. Also, was this sudden? Or slowly started? If it's alzheimers related, I will say, my great aunt in a few short months it seemed just deteriorated from it and it can quickly happen. I'm so sorry this is happening and I will also pray in Yeshua's name hf

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Aside from the mental aspect of Alzheimers, there is a chance she has a urinary tract infection. I've known several women who had mild infections but terrible hallucinations. They stopped after the infection was treated.

Praying for your grandparents and you - this is a stressful situation to be sure.
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Take her to the doctor.
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I’m sorry but what a bitch to accuse your grandpa of having affairs with her hallucinations. I can’t stand people like that. Yea she may be losing it, but you know he’s probably had to deal with her insecurity from way back.
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


My Dad had times when he accused my Mom of affairs - while he was in bed dying of bone cancer.

He was phasing in and out of reality.

When he was coherent he never remembered it.

She was taking care of him 24/7.

verysad

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Aside from the mental aspect of Alzheimers, there is a chance she has a urinary tract infection. I've known several women who had mild infections but terrible hallucinations. They stopped after the infection was treated.

Praying for your grandparents and you - this is a stressful situation to be sure.
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I've never heard of that before - but my mom was the same way for several years.

Now I know why verysad

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sounds to me like there is something toxic in their environment... new cell towers??? a new smart meter installed, how about black mold (in the basement) behind the walls in a bathroom ... do they have "pest control" who spray glyposate around the house to keep out bugs ...

last but not least ... what are they eating, is it organic like the food they were raised on ... are they getting all the nutrients (iodine) are they drinking tap water

why aren't your parents dealing with their parents ... why are you involved ... do you think you will inherit if they are moved to an Assisted living complex ? have you checked their meds for conflicts ...
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Its all a screwed up situation.. youre asking about my parents, well they divorced when I was ohh I dont know four or five years old I dont have much of a relationship with either of them and this is my dads mother and from what I get from him he’s never really forgiven her for putting him through a pretty crappy life as a child so he just brushes her off. The whole family is really screwed up and I’m kind of just caught in the middle of it all. Im curious though as my grandmother has metal implant prosthesis because of jaw injuries from abuse she suffered (not from my grandfather from back before she met him) and with the 5g rolling out lately if its affecting her even worse now. Thank you for bringing this point up.
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call an ambulance, when they get there

Tell them she has mental health issues to ignore

what she says.
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I’m sorry but what a bitch to accuse your grandpa of having affairs with her hallucinations. I can’t stand people like that. Yea she may be losing it, but you know he’s probably had to deal with her insecurity from way back.
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My Dad had times when he accused my Mom of affairs - while he was in bed dying of bone cancer.

He was phasing in and out of reality.

When he was coherent he never remembered it.

She was taking care of him 24/7.

verysad

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Thank you so much for the prayers and the picture, my grandfather loves her so much and I just cant imagine how it breaks his heart having to go through this and he literally never leaves her side or talks to anyone its very gutwrenching watching all this to be honest with you it hurts so bad.
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call an ambulance, when they get there

Tell them she has mental health issues to ignore

what she says.
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I need to do this, Jake. My names Christopher by the way. I’m just really scared how they will react but you know what its probably going to be the only way to get her to the doctors and get the help she needs. Please pray for me and for them. I appreciate your being rather direct about this.
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Aside from the mental aspect of Alzheimers, there is a chance she has a urinary tract infection. I've known several women who had mild infections but terrible hallucinations. They stopped after the infection was treated.

Praying for your grandparents and you - this is a stressful situation to be sure.
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I was thinking this as well. Hallucinations due to a urinary tract infection may sound odd, but it can happen. It’s something to look into.

Also, is it possible that a rodent or squirrel could have chewed through the cable line? This is a pretty common occurrence with fiber optic lines.
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Aside from the mental aspect of Alzheimers, there is a chance she has a urinary tract infection. I've known several women who had mild infections but terrible hallucinations. They stopped after the infection was treated.

Praying for your grandparents and you - this is a stressful situation to be sure.
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I was thinking this as well. Hallucinations due to a urinary tract infection may sound odd, but it can happen. It’s something to look into.

Also, is it possible that a rodent or squirrel could have chewed through the cable line? This is a pretty common occurrence with fiber optic lines.
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I put a link to a picture of the cable itself you can tell it was cut its too clean to have been an animal chewing it.
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It sounds a lot like schizophrenia her hearing voices nobody else hears. She needs to be put on medication asap.
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Just take her in to a clinic.
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How old are they?
If late sixties they are probably messed up from drugs they
are taking.
If more like eighties, this is fairly normal dementia.
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Happened to my Grandmother recently, she kept hearing people behind Her fireplace

my Father and I went to investigate, obviously nobody there

long story short, Doctor tested Her found out She had onset

DIABETES, couple of pills later right as rain.

Grandmother back to full health in less than a week, as for the cable.......well I have no idea,

could be a disgruntled neighbour due to television volume?
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Aside from the mental aspect of Alzheimers, there is a chance she has a urinary tract infection. I've known several women who had mild infections but terrible hallucinations. They stopped after the infection was treated.

Praying for your grandparents and you - this is a stressful situation to be sure.
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I was thinking this as well. Hallucinations due to a urinary tract infection may sound odd, but it can happen. It’s something to look into.

Also, is it possible that a rodent or squirrel could have chewed through the cable line? This is a pretty common occurrence with fiber optic lines.
 Quoting: Rabbit In The Hat


This is what should be looked into especially if the changes were sudden. UTI can cause delirium. Very common in elderly women.
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My mom was the same. I finally had to take her into my home to care for her.

She just didn't feel safe, that's when they conjur up voices and paranoia. Perfectly natural part of aging, they need assisted living situation and can no longer live alone.

It was an honor to care for my mom for 7 years. As soon as she felt safe she normalized a little. I put her into a routine, gave her the things she needed (food, shelter, clothing).

I just went along with her hallucinations, held her hand, asked her questions about what was going through her head until she realized she was safe, many times, just allowing her to comfort herself and go to sleep.

Time to have a family meeting and set up some care for the old folks. I did it alone, no relatives to help.





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