So let's talk abortion, from a man's perspective...

Well said Brief! I have 8 kids and my wife and I have taken responsibility for them. Watching them grow was great - except when they get to be adults.

You know what they say ... little kids little problems, big kids, big problems ;-)

But we love every single one of them!

I love your mom

What a saint

you chose well

She founded the local chapter of the Rape Crisis Center and spent the next four decades counseling women.

point being no one has the right to take their own life

or to take another

Me too...

I adore strong women... (just don't piss 'em off lol)

I'm pretty damn sure I've had two girls abort my baby without asking me how I felt. I would've been OK with being a single dad... these were my kids and they were murdered.

Abortions should be agreed upon by both parties if present, if she doesn't want it but he does what is the big deal? I understand that he wuoldn't have to actually carry the baby and breastfeed, but damn, after a few months a baby can be away from its mother so if she doesn't want to take the responsibility she can just giev it to the dad

RESPECT!

when they're right they're right

I am sorry about the death or you kids.

You will see them when you cross over and be with them.

But how do you really know? It was kept from you if it happened most likely

life operates according to Natural Laws. being fetus is necessary stage of life for everyone, it is not a choice. so, fetus not being a human being is a lie.

Shangri-La. Could someone please tell me where this wonderful place is where you all live?

I was a single mom beginning as soon as the deadbeat found out I was prego. We rarely spoke after he found out. I was heart broken. Only 2 kind things happened to me. One, my church choir gave me a shower and everyone brought diappers. At work, everyone pitched in brought me supper for a week after he was born. Oh, and I must say, a lot of people were gentle with me holding doors and things like that and it was mostly men. So thank you to the guys who are nice to a pregnant woman. Sometimes it means more than you could possibly imagine.

I had to have a C section as my pelvis is not shaped for birthing babies. He was stuck in the birth canal and his heatbeat would slow when I had contractions. At least I got the bikini cut and was able to stay at the hospital for 5 days with the child. Can any of you imagine having to take care of a baby by yourself after surgery?

When my mother found out, she didn't speak to me for a year.

In other words, it was hard and it was hell. I would never do it again and I would never wish it on anyone else. I don't think any of you understand the desparation of being single, pregnant, rejected by the father, and rejected by your family.

I was 29 at the time. I kept the child since there where no guarantees I would have another and I still loved the father.

I never married. Most men resent another man's son. All I know is that, until you have lived it, until you have been a single parent with no one to help you, until you have had to be both mother and father ( the bread winner), until you have had to take your sick child to day care, or had to leave him with a friend on Christmas day while he had strep and a raging fever because you had to go to work or loose your job, you just can't imagine how difficult it is to be a single parent and alone.

I would never do it again and I would never expect anyone else to do it.

Brief, thank God for men like you who are ready to accept their responsibility and may God damn those who are not.

For those who judge me, I would like to know how many of you have had sex outside of marriage. Only those who waited for marriage and have never had another sexual partner have the right to judge me, but, how many of you do anyway?

How many logical and rational women do you really know? 99% are emotional and reactionary. This is why there must be an intervening medium, to help bring reality into the picture...we need more counselors, mental health professionals

Last Edited by BRIEF on 02/01/2019 11:51 AM

I can see by their genetic traits that they are, but at this point it doesn't matter. They are my adult "children" now.

Imagine a world where abortion was never allowed and you and or your neighbors had to raise the child both financially and physically of a young adult who was pregnant out of wed lock in your neighborhood.


I know, but suspend your disbelief for a moment.



Imagine the lessons in your local high-school about abstance because kids immediate neighbor are very motivated and don't want to deal with raising stray kids.

Imagine the disruption people would feel over pornographic movies targeted to the youth.


Imagine the focus that would be place on families working together forever because the cost to society would be too much of a personal reality.


Instead we pay close to 700,000 dollars as a community in taxes for planned parenthood to kill and sell baby parts. Instead we embrace a condom mentality.


No one wants to take the time inside our families and communities to hold up families as a great plan for raising kids we disconnect from the consequences.


We know how this stuff works and we can do better.

My daughter is in the hospital labor room right now. This is number 2 for her. My wife is there with her, but not the father.
Daughter said she has thought about giving it up for adoption.
I told her No. "I didn't give away any of mine." I think that's what she wanted to hear. Because she knows she cannot make it on her own with 2 babies. And me and her Mother are here for her.
I asked her if she has figured out what causes it yet.
My point is this..... Humans do what Humans do. But I don't think abortion is ever the answer.
I hope this one is not as LOUD.


Welcome to the World Maelee. Watch out for the men, they lie.

Signed
Pap

Nagger babies are cute until they get big...

Men, by and large, couldn't care less.

For the few that do, how many would take responsibility?

Only 4% of men fight in court for their kids, so, I'm thinking it will be a lot less over sperm.

Last Edited by HarshingMyMellow on 02/01/2019 11:27 AM

Your logic is flawed, because you seem to think that a man's orgasm should obligate a woman to risk her life to gestate his spawn. How is that "equal rights"?

You think it's somehow "equal" for two people to have an orgasm while only one assumes the very real physical risk of gestation?

Equality is great when it can be achieved, but in a reality in which only genetic females are capable of incubating a child to viability, the closest we can come to reaching equality is to admit that only the person who is being used as life support should have the right to choose whether or not to do so.

In a perfect world, only wanted fetuses would be conceived and every wanted fetus would be carried to healthy term. This is not a perfect world. Tough choices have to be made all the time.

Men are so quick to blame women for choosing to abort, but the truth is that nobody is forcing these men have a choice, too. They get to choose where to spill their seed. THAT is how they get a choice when it comes to abortion. By not knocking up women who don't want to become mothers.

And what are your thoughts on rape/incest abortions? Do you think that exceptions should be made?

First of all you're nuts. I stopped at three because it was all I could handle with making sure I spent equal amounts of quality time with them. Even to the point that I would take each one, once a year, on a weekend trip with just one on one, he and I.

Secondly, I never had any problems out of my kids, big or small...I mean petty things don't count.

Last Edited by BRIEF on 02/01/2019 11:31 AM

you cant not allow it

it will happen

regardless

however imagine a time when women never do because they understand the sacredness of life

both men and women

God wants us to choose

otherwise He would have never given us a soul

however he can come and judge the nations

which he will as he did Sodom

I agree with you Brief, I agree 100 per cent with you my dear.

There’s nothing more beautiful than a baby...a baby is such a miracle...a baby is a way to say I love you so much that I want to exist more people like you... a baby is a new hope, new beginning... a baby is everything!

And men should never forget that his precious seed is growing inside her body and all the emotional and hormonal changes she will have to go through for 40 weeks..meanwhile they don’t face any changes at all.

Women have been treated with no consideration by the father of their children leading to this horrible crime, called abortion!

i doubt that you can get there....

Yep. Human nature (male nature) is programmed to flourish and multiply. DNA of the human species wants to keep replicating itself. Hence, the horny nature of people, particularly guys.

That may be one reason why more people than otherwise would be the case are seduced by the idiocy of sociopolitical liberalism and people of the left. They figure a permissive, tolerate-tolerate society will be easier to exploit, sexually-speaking too.


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questions for you: how much risk for the woman that she should lose her life in childbirth? I bet the numbers are low.

the problem here is the lack of control the woman has over her body before gestation even happens.

if we had less illegit births they maybe we could provide for all of them eg. the state? although not ideal since it deters from family bonding which humans knew for nearly a million years.

nobody is forcing people to irresponsibly reproduce and then to murder their inconvenient outcome.

lastly: do you think it is fair for the 'state' to force men to pay for children that women decide to bear due to a one night stand? Here the logic is reversed and yet we find this to be acceptable.