Talmud and the Noahide laws! Deception? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 02/05/2019 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had to look up what they are. They seem realistic; only immoral people need fear them. Though those immoral people are now the majority... If you believe in Christ you are immoral and are to be beheaded watch the second video The Christ of Christianity IS the Anti Christ...which is why so many will follow him... You mean of fake Christianity or fake Judaism? |
darkwolf007
User ID: 77086694 United States 02/05/2019 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Louis in Richmond I had to look up what they are. They seem realistic; only immoral people need fear them. Though those immoral people are now the majority... If you believe in Christ you are immoral and are to be beheaded watch the second video The Christ of Christianity IS the Anti Christ...which is why so many will follow him... Noahide courts would certainly be enforcing laws that should be acceptable to Jews, Christians and Muslims. But we have many other laws, many thousands of them, that are far more specific. What is this terror about the Noahide Courts -- if they exist; actually I have not heard of them. And as for "watch the second video" I won't. I'll respond to the comment If you believe in Christ you are immoral and are to be beheaded Both Jews and Muslims believe that seeing Jesus as some part of a 3-part Godhead would be idol worship. The difference is in what people do about it. Jews will ignore the situation. Muslims will kill you. Is that clear enough? Recently two people were shot by Muslims on the Temple Mount, which as you know has a Muslim mosque on it at the moment and is controlled by Muslim forces. Of course they were not Muslims. They were also not Jews. They were Druze, i.e. Christians. Muslims HATE idol worshippers. I am just telling you what they think of Christians, and may I also point out that Jews are the ones doing the work to push back the Muslims out of Israel. Too bad Muslims are some of the most extreme hypocrites on Earth... They worship their sins, seek to infest each other with their own and each other's sins, and will do whatever it takes to Corrupt all around them in the most horrific of fashions. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 02/05/2019 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, we all have the God spirit in us. So why does one need an intermediary Who is the intermediary? We have the God spirt in us We don't become God at the snap of a finger Only Jesus did We have to grow into it God teaches us not the church but God Thru private prayer and meditation I can't emphasize this enough It is up to us as to how much it grows Jesus never is quoted to have said he was God. He said more often not to worship him, but maybe once he's quoted as saying he should be idolized as the one way, truth, life, the only way to come to the Father. Because one Jew said it about himself, do you believe it? Even when you know the Father is within you and loves you, without that aspect? Jesus brought freedom, you nutjobs. That's very important. You can only be a slave to the idol. Nobody can love idols. Jesus did not say I know the truth, He said, I am the Way, Truth, and the Life. If you stay slave of the law, you will never be able to comprehend what is true God's Love, what is Spirit of Truth and Freedom, Spirit of being true son of God, you will never be able to fulfill the law. Fake Christians, Catholics with their fake Jew brothers alike. Lusting for power will not save your asses from God's wrath. :thinkaboutit: If they're not willing to break their Luciferian and Satanic Programming at this point in time, Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo, then most likely they will wholeheartedly go with whichever Corrupt god suits them best when given the opportunity during the Great Camp FEMA Roundups phase. It's their lives and souls, Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo. If they want to kill themselves and each other they have that freedom. They have their free wills... for now. Right, Lust for Power enslaved them and made them blind. Wisdom of men of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 77086694 United States 02/05/2019 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Louis in Richmond I had to look up what they are. They seem realistic; only immoral people need fear them. Though those immoral people are now the majority... If you believe in Christ you are immoral and are to be beheaded watch the second video The Christ of Christianity IS the Anti Christ...which is why so many will follow him... You mean of fake Christianity or fake Judaism? Last I knew the Jesus Christ that is so well known in modern Christianity is quite possibly the graven image of the true Anti-Christ figure rather than Yeshua himself. Most likely Yeshua himself was a black man given the time frame and areas involved. I find it kinda funny how it seems as though every Apostle and other important figures in ancient Christianity are up to precisely detailed, but Yeshua himself? Nope... he might as well been a pink and purple polka dotted lizard man with as much personal details that are mentioned about him specifically. I don't mean his deeds. Literally every one of Yeshua's Magickal deeds have been replicated by many of the "demon magicians" planet wide over the last some decades now. I mean his hair color, type, skin color and type. Those types of personal details. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake If you believe in Christ you are immoral and are to be beheaded watch the second video The Christ of Christianity IS the Anti Christ...which is why so many will follow him... You mean of fake Christianity or fake Judaism? Last I knew the Jesus Christ that is so well known in modern Christianity is quite possibly the graven image of the true Anti-Christ figure rather than Yeshua himself. Most likely Yeshua himself was a black man given the time frame and areas involved. I find it kinda funny how it seems as though every Apostle and other important figures in ancient Christianity are up to precisely detailed, but Yeshua himself? Nope... he might as well been a pink and purple polka dotted lizard man with as much personal details that are mentioned about him specifically. I don't mean his deeds. Literally every one of Yeshua's Magickal deeds have been replicated by many of the "demon magicians" planet wide over the last some decades now. I mean his hair color, type, skin color and type. Those types of personal details. And the name Joshua (same as Yeshua) was already taken, as the man who took the Israelites into the promised land as Moses died. The sixth book of the Old Testament. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 02/05/2019 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake If you believe in Christ you are immoral and are to be beheaded watch the second video The Christ of Christianity IS the Anti Christ...which is why so many will follow him... You mean of fake Christianity or fake Judaism? Last I knew the Jesus Christ that is so well known in modern Christianity is quite possibly the graven image of the true Anti-Christ figure rather than Yeshua himself. Most likely Yeshua himself was a black man given the time frame and areas involved. I find it kinda funny how it seems as though every Apostle and other important figures in ancient Christianity are up to precisely detailed, but Yeshua himself? Nope... he might as well been a pink and purple polka dotted lizard man with as much personal details that are mentioned about him specifically. I don't mean his deeds. Literally every one of Yeshua's Magickal deeds have been replicated by many of the "demon magicians" planet wide over the last some decades now. I mean his hair color, type, skin color and type. Those types of personal details. The major thing which makes Christianity different from other religions is Resurrection from the dead. Do you know anyone capable of doing it? And that is main reason why He was crucified, He made ancient secrets revealed for every single soul, something like Tesla figured out that electricity is free in the air for everyone. All Gnostic Apocrypha, Torah, New Testament have enough description of Jesus Christ. Also Transfiguration, when Holy Spirit uplifts and makes body Holy, even changes its molecular composition. That's only in Christianity. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AC Reborn 71318064 The Christ of Christianity IS the Anti Christ...which is why so many will follow him... You mean of fake Christianity or fake Judaism? Last I knew the Jesus Christ that is so well known in modern Christianity is quite possibly the graven image of the true Anti-Christ figure rather than Yeshua himself. Most likely Yeshua himself was a black man given the time frame and areas involved. I find it kinda funny how it seems as though every Apostle and other important figures in ancient Christianity are up to precisely detailed, but Yeshua himself? Nope... he might as well been a pink and purple polka dotted lizard man with as much personal details that are mentioned about him specifically. I don't mean his deeds. Literally every one of Yeshua's Magickal deeds have been replicated by many of the "demon magicians" planet wide over the last some decades now. I mean his hair color, type, skin color and type. Those types of personal details. The major thing which makes Christianity different from other religions is Resurrection from the dead. Do you know anyone capable of doing it? And that is main reason why He was crucified, He made ancient secrets revealed for every single soul, something like Tesla figured out that electricity is free in the air for everyone. All Gnostic Apocrypha, Torah, New Testament have enough description of Jesus Christ. Also Transfiguration, when Holy Spirit uplifts and makes body Holy, even changes its molecular composition. That's only in Christianity. Gnosticism is related to Sabbateanism, which has been firmly rejected by Jews as a misreading of the Zohar. Are you a Gnostic? The resurrection you cite was witnessed far less reliably visibly than Moses receiving the Torah at Mount Sinai. But a change in molecular composition sounds like something that could be verified by science. Has it been? Has the experiment been tried? . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 02/05/2019 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last I knew the Jesus Christ that is so well known in modern Christianity is quite possibly the graven image of the true Anti-Christ figure rather than Yeshua himself. Most likely Yeshua himself was a black man given the time frame and areas involved. I find it kinda funny how it seems as though every Apostle and other important figures in ancient Christianity are up to precisely detailed, but Yeshua himself? Nope... he might as well been a pink and purple polka dotted lizard man with as much personal details that are mentioned about him specifically. I don't mean his deeds. Literally every one of Yeshua's Magickal deeds have been replicated by many of the "demon magicians" planet wide over the last some decades now. I mean his hair color, type, skin color and type. Those types of personal details. The major thing which makes Christianity different from other religions is Resurrection from the dead. Do you know anyone capable of doing it? And that is main reason why He was crucified, He made ancient secrets revealed for every single soul, something like Tesla figured out that electricity is free in the air for everyone. All Gnostic Apocrypha, Torah, New Testament have enough description of Jesus Christ. Also Transfiguration, when Holy Spirit uplifts and makes body Holy, even changes its molecular composition. That's only in Christianity. Gnosticism is related to Sabbateanism, which has been firmly rejected by Jews as a misreading of the Zohar. Are you a Gnostic? The resurrection you cite was witnessed far less reliably visibly than Moses receiving the Torah at Mount Sinai. But a change in molecular composition sounds like something that could be verified by science. Has it been? Has the experiment been tried? I am not Gnostic, no way. I just like some interesting verses from Gospels of Thomas. Yes, but you will not believe it, cause it will contradict your viewpoint. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: darkwolf007 Last I knew the Jesus Christ that is so well known in modern Christianity is quite possibly the graven image of the true Anti-Christ figure rather than Yeshua himself. Most likely Yeshua himself was a black man given the time frame and areas involved. I find it kinda funny how it seems as though every Apostle and other important figures in ancient Christianity are up to precisely detailed, but Yeshua himself? Nope... he might as well been a pink and purple polka dotted lizard man with as much personal details that are mentioned about him specifically. I don't mean his deeds. Literally every one of Yeshua's Magickal deeds have been replicated by many of the "demon magicians" planet wide over the last some decades now. I mean his hair color, type, skin color and type. Those types of personal details. The major thing which makes Christianity different from other religions is Resurrection from the dead. Do you know anyone capable of doing it? And that is main reason why He was crucified, He made ancient secrets revealed for every single soul, something like Tesla figured out that electricity is free in the air for everyone. All Gnostic Apocrypha, Torah, New Testament have enough description of Jesus Christ. Also Transfiguration, when Holy Spirit uplifts and makes body Holy, even changes its molecular composition. That's only in Christianity. Gnosticism is related to Sabbateanism, which has been firmly rejected by Jews as a misreading of the Zohar. Are you a Gnostic? The resurrection you cite was witnessed far less reliably visibly than Moses receiving the Torah at Mount Sinai. But a change in molecular composition sounds like something that could be verified by science. Has it been? Has the experiment been tried? I am not Gnostic, no way. I just like some interesting verses from Gospels of Thomas. Yes, but you will not believe it, cause it will contradict your viewpoint. What's the evidence for it? . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no covenant with Noah in the Bible, hence no Noahite laws for his descendants. There is but one Covenant with humanity from God: Numbers 15:29 One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether a native-born Israelite or a foreigner residing among you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 02/05/2019 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo The major thing which makes Christianity different from other religions is Resurrection from the dead. Do you know anyone capable of doing it? And that is main reason why He was crucified, He made ancient secrets revealed for every single soul, something like Tesla figured out that electricity is free in the air for everyone. All Gnostic Apocrypha, Torah, New Testament have enough description of Jesus Christ. Also Transfiguration, when Holy Spirit uplifts and makes body Holy, even changes its molecular composition. That's only in Christianity. Gnosticism is related to Sabbateanism, which has been firmly rejected by Jews as a misreading of the Zohar. Are you a Gnostic? The resurrection you cite was witnessed far less reliably visibly than Moses receiving the Torah at Mount Sinai. But a change in molecular composition sounds like something that could be verified by science. Has it been? Has the experiment been tried? I am not Gnostic, no way. I just like some interesting verses from Gospels of Thomas. Yes, but you will not believe it, cause it will contradict your viewpoint. What's the evidence for it? I want you to dig to find the answer if you are really interested in it. Let the Light of the Truth guides you in your journey. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no covenant with Noah in the Bible, hence no Noahite laws for his descendants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 There is but one Covenant with humanity from God: Numbers 15:29 One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether a native-born Israelite or a foreigner residing among you. 27And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. 28And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. Yes, and non-Jews had equal access to the Tabernacle and, later, the Temple, to bring offerings. It was required of Jewish men several times per year, but others including non-Jews could also bring offerings. Of course only Levites, one of the Israelite families, could be priests in the Temple. As for the Noahide Laws, they are the accumulation of laws given up to that time, starting in the Garden of Eden. One change was made: Genesis 9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. So God had told Adam and Eve to eat only plants, but now Noah could also eat meat of animals, but (as interpreted by rabbis) they had to slaughter them first, not eat from the animal or pull it apart while it was still alive. Also we see the beginning of the rule that meat is to be drained of blood before eating. Last Edited by oniongrass on 02/05/2019 01:44 AM . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: oniongrass Gnosticism is related to Sabbateanism, which has been firmly rejected by Jews as a misreading of the Zohar. Are you a Gnostic? The resurrection you cite was witnessed far less reliably visibly than Moses receiving the Torah at Mount Sinai. But a change in molecular composition sounds like something that could be verified by science. Has it been? Has the experiment been tried? I am not Gnostic, no way. I just like some interesting verses from Gospels of Thomas. Yes, but you will not believe it, cause it will contradict your viewpoint. What's the evidence for it? I want you to dig to find the answer if you are really interested in it. Let the Light of the Truth guides you in your journey. So, no evidence to offer. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77192604 United States 02/05/2019 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of deception here: 1) Noahide laws are given by God, not Man. So they can not be changed or ignored. 2)You can not redefine a set of laws by a book written hundreds of years later. 3) The Apostles summed up the Noahide laws in Acts 15:29, for the Gentile believers to obey. 4) Nor can you "prophetically" apply a meaning to them that does not exist. Your "Birth right" belongs to God and Jesus and you can not sell it or lose it. 5)Following them only gives the Rabbi's a basis to legally judge you as a righteous and holy Gentile, by their standards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no covenant with Noah in the Bible, hence no Noahite laws for his descendants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 There is but one Covenant with humanity from God: Numbers 15:29 One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether a native-born Israelite or a foreigner residing among you. 27And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. 28And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. Yes, and non-Jews had equal access to the Tabernacle and, later, the Temple, to bring offerings. It was required of Jewish men several times per year, but others including non-Jews could also bring offerings. Of course only Levites, one of the Israelite families, could be priests in the Temple. As for the Noahide Laws, they are the accumulation of laws given up to that time, starting in the Garden of Eden. One change was made: Genesis 9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. So God had told Adam and Eve to eat only plants, but now Noah could also eat meat of animals, but (as interpreted by rabbis) they had to slaughter them first, not eat from the animal or pull it apart while it was still alive. Also we see the beginning of the rule that meat is to be drained of blood before eating. Again, there is no covenant with Noah in the Bible. Only orders, like the ones given to Adam and Eve, they did not obey ... A covenant is something else. Do not let the rabbis deceiving you as a non-Jew. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no covenant with Noah in the Bible, hence no Noahite laws for his descendants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 There is but one Covenant with humanity from God: Numbers 15:29 One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether a native-born Israelite or a foreigner residing among you. 27And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. 28And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. Yes, and non-Jews had equal access to the Tabernacle and, later, the Temple, to bring offerings. It was required of Jewish men several times per year, but others including non-Jews could also bring offerings. Of course only Levites, one of the Israelite families, could be priests in the Temple. As for the Noahide Laws, they are the accumulation of laws given up to that time, starting in the Garden of Eden. One change was made: Genesis 9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. So God had told Adam and Eve to eat only plants, but now Noah could also eat meat of animals, but (as interpreted by rabbis) they had to slaughter them first, not eat from the animal or pull it apart while it was still alive. Also we see the beginning of the rule that meat is to be drained of blood before eating. Again, there is no covenant with Noah in the Bible. Only orders, like the ones given to Adam and Eve, they did not obey ... A covenant is something else. Do not let the rabbis deceiving you as a non-Jew. I am a Jew, and I can read plain English too. A promise was made. That's King James Version there, a translation that most Christians accept. I wish I could read it for myself from the Hebrew, but I cannot read modern Hebrew let alone ancient Hebrew. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no covenant with Noah in the Bible, hence no Noahite laws for his descendants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 There is but one Covenant with humanity from God: Numbers 15:29 One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether a native-born Israelite or a foreigner residing among you. 27And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. 28And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. Yes, and non-Jews had equal access to the Tabernacle and, later, the Temple, to bring offerings. It was required of Jewish men several times per year, but others including non-Jews could also bring offerings. Of course only Levites, one of the Israelite families, could be priests in the Temple. As for the Noahide Laws, they are the accumulation of laws given up to that time, starting in the Garden of Eden. One change was made: Genesis 9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. So God had told Adam and Eve to eat only plants, but now Noah could also eat meat of animals, but (as interpreted by rabbis) they had to slaughter them first, not eat from the animal or pull it apart while it was still alive. Also we see the beginning of the rule that meat is to be drained of blood before eating. Again, there is no covenant with Noah in the Bible. Only orders, like the ones given to Adam and Eve, they did not obey ... A covenant is something else. Do not let the rabbis deceiving you as a non-Jew. I am a Jew, and I can read plain English too. A promise was made. That's King James Version there, a translation that most Christians accept. I wish I could read it for myself from the Hebrew, but I cannot read modern Hebrew let alone ancient Hebrew. Noah was not promised any salvation. Only given provisions for his earthly life. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: oniongrass 27And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. 28And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. Yes, and non-Jews had equal access to the Tabernacle and, later, the Temple, to bring offerings. It was required of Jewish men several times per year, but others including non-Jews could also bring offerings. Of course only Levites, one of the Israelite families, could be priests in the Temple. As for the Noahide Laws, they are the accumulation of laws given up to that time, starting in the Garden of Eden. One change was made: Genesis 9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. So God had told Adam and Eve to eat only plants, but now Noah could also eat meat of animals, but (as interpreted by rabbis) they had to slaughter them first, not eat from the animal or pull it apart while it was still alive. Also we see the beginning of the rule that meat is to be drained of blood before eating. Again, there is no covenant with Noah in the Bible. Only orders, like the ones given to Adam and Eve, they did not obey ... A covenant is something else. Do not let the rabbis deceiving you as a non-Jew. I am a Jew, and I can read plain English too. A promise was made. That's King James Version there, a translation that most Christians accept. I wish I could read it for myself from the Hebrew, but I cannot read modern Hebrew let alone ancient Hebrew. Noah was not promised any salvation. Only given provisions for his earthly life. OK he was not promised "salvation". Nor was Abraham, nor Moses, nor David. You said no promise was made, now you're talking about a specific promise of "salvation". . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 Again, there is no covenant with Noah in the Bible. Only orders, like the ones given to Adam and Eve, they did not obey ... A covenant is something else. Do not let the rabbis deceiving you as a non-Jew. I am a Jew, and I can read plain English too. A promise was made. That's King James Version there, a translation that most Christians accept. I wish I could read it for myself from the Hebrew, but I cannot read modern Hebrew let alone ancient Hebrew. Noah was not promised any salvation. Only given provisions for his earthly life. OK he was not promised "salvation". Nor was Abraham, nor Moses, nor David. You said no promise was made, now you're talking about a specific promise of "salvation". Salvation = the Covenant from God with the willing people. David was given promise of the messiah coming in his blood line. Moses was given promise of another like him to accomplish his lifework. Abraham was given Isaac miraculously. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: oniongrass I am a Jew, and I can read plain English too. A promise was made. That's King James Version there, a translation that most Christians accept. I wish I could read it for myself from the Hebrew, but I cannot read modern Hebrew let alone ancient Hebrew. Noah was not promised any salvation. Only given provisions for his earthly life. OK he was not promised "salvation". Nor was Abraham, nor Moses, nor David. You said no promise was made, now you're talking about a specific promise of "salvation". Salvation = the Covenant from God with the willing people. David was given promise of the messiah coming in his blood line. Moses was given promise of another like him to accomplish his lifework. Abraham was given Isaac miraculously. I think you have a novel interpretation there of "salvation" that would be unfamiliar to most Christians! What do you mean about Moses? He was told that Joshua, who had been a servant, would take the Israelites into the promised land, and I think he saw that happening as he died. But nobody says Joshua was like Moses, successful as Joshua was. Noah was given dominion over all the animals and birds, even to eat them (humanely). That ain't nothing. He wasn't set apart from other humans because he and his family WERE the only remaining humans. Last Edited by oniongrass on 02/05/2019 02:11 AM . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 02/05/2019 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo I am not Gnostic, no way. I just like some interesting verses from Gospels of Thomas. Yes, but you will not believe it, cause it will contradict your viewpoint. What's the evidence for it? I want you to dig to find the answer if you are really interested in it. Let the Light of the Truth guides you in your journey. So, no evidence to offer. I did not say that. There is more evidence than number of hair on my head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 Noah was not promised any salvation. Only given provisions for his earthly life. OK he was not promised "salvation". Nor was Abraham, nor Moses, nor David. You said no promise was made, now you're talking about a specific promise of "salvation". Salvation = the Covenant from God with the willing people. David was given promise of the messiah coming in his blood line. Moses was given promise of another like him to accomplish his lifework. Abraham was given Isaac miraculously. I think you have a novel interpretation there of "salvation" that would be unfamiliar to most Christians! In the Old Testament the ancient people had been learning the power of God step by step, it took them many generations before realizing how powerful Monotheism is and that The power reaches beyond the afterworld. Them came the messiah preaching resurrection and Christianity got born. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you mean about Moses? He was told that Joshua, who had been a servant, would take the Israelites into the promised land, and I think he saw that happening as he died. But nobody says Joshua was like Moses, successful as Joshua was. Quoting: oniongrass Similar with the promise to David, Solomon was unable to fulfill personally. Jesus had to come instead. |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: oniongrass OK he was not promised "salvation". Nor was Abraham, nor Moses, nor David. You said no promise was made, now you're talking about a specific promise of "salvation". Salvation = the Covenant from God with the willing people. David was given promise of the messiah coming in his blood line. Moses was given promise of another like him to accomplish his lifework. Abraham was given Isaac miraculously. I think you have a novel interpretation there of "salvation" that would be unfamiliar to most Christians! In the Old Testament the ancient people had been learning the power of God step by step, it took them many generations before realizing how powerful Monotheism is and that The power reaches beyond the afterworld. Them came the messiah preaching resurrection and Christianity got born. "Salvation" is a word that, to the best of my knowledge, does not appear in the Old Testament, and I am pretty sure it's nowhere in the first 5 books of the OT . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you mean about Moses? He was told that Joshua, who had been a servant, would take the Israelites into the promised land, and I think he saw that happening as he died. But nobody says Joshua was like Moses, successful as Joshua was. Quoting: oniongrass Similar with the promise to David, Solomon was unable to fulfill personally. Jesus had to come instead. No it wasn't similar to what you say was the promise to David. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
oniongrass
User ID: 77265497 United States 02/05/2019 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks guys, I am going to bed, I hope you found my comments useful or at least interesting. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76393895 Slovakia 02/05/2019 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76393895 Salvation = the Covenant from God with the willing people. David was given promise of the messiah coming in his blood line. Moses was given promise of another like him to accomplish his lifework. Abraham was given Isaac miraculously. I think you have a novel interpretation there of "salvation" that would be unfamiliar to most Christians! In the Old Testament the ancient people had been learning the power of God step by step, it took them many generations before realizing how powerful Monotheism is and that The power reaches beyond the afterworld. Them came the messiah preaching resurrection and Christianity got born. "Salvation" is a word that, to the best of my knowledge, does not appear in the Old Testament, and I am pretty sure it's nowhere in the first 5 books of the OT [link to biblehub.net (secure)] |
RomanianGuy
User ID: 77314248 Romania 02/05/2019 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake I'm pretty sure Jesus said to love your enemies and pray for those that persecute you?? Absolutely Jesus said those words!! But you see these people in your videos don't believe in Jesus as messiah and God incarnate. So I can give you the scripture where God the Father says, Isaac I loved but Esau I HATED!! The truth is that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and all who follow Him can expect persecution ie: out of date Noahide laws!! You talk of Jesus the God incarnate and then you talk of God the Father. So he's both the father and the son and then goes on to commit suicide saying it's the Father's will? Sounds like split personality but what's in fact is the deluded dogma of later Church "fathers". Jesus is from everlasting to everlasting. He (Jesus) is the Word made flesh!! Jesus is the Son of God the Father. Jesus has all the powers of God the Father yet still is the Son. Jesus does the will of His Father in heaven. The Holy Spirit is God too!! They are all God and yet all 3 distinctive persons. It is a complete mystery and I will never get my head fully wrapped around it until I'm able to meet Jesus face to face when I'm called home. No man can truly give you a difinitive and accurate description of the "Holy Trinity" as it's just out of our minds capability to do. And I am in no way ashamed to say to you that I just don't fully understand it. That's just a jibberish theory created by the mind of man. A bunch of old church fathers created this persona you worship as God. They held meetings on what to say Jesus was. And yes, they intended to create a complete mystery since oriental religious mysteries were a big thing back in their day in the Roman Empire. |
Ozric
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Ozric
User ID: 76792171 United States 02/05/2019 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | edited for the dbl post glitch Last Edited by Ozric on 02/05/2019 12:37 PM I do exist, I'm pretty sure :) |