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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74797622 United States 02/12/2019 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds Then how do you explain this. Thread: Sandy Hook Breakthrough folks !!! !!!! - Debunk this if you can Buy a Ridgefield HS yearbook and find the kids in that photo in the yearbook. I already found a photo. Its shows nine girls all standing together. Looks real to me. I mean get a Ridgefield yearbook from 2016, '17 and '18 and see if you can identify the kids. If the photo is of a middle school graduation then the girls would now be in high school. |
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User ID: 76882875 Canada 02/12/2019 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds A 2017 article quotes Hartford Hospital trauma director Lenworth Jacobs as being angered after he observed that children injured in the Sandy Hook shootings died unnecessarily from survivable wounds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 "Dr. Jacobs took it upon himself to review each of the autopsies, and what he found was that they each died from bleeding to death. Dr. Jacobs was angered and wanted to find a solution..." [link to issuu.com (secure)] You’ll recall Jacobs had actually been telephoned by the ME's office—most likely by Carver himself. According to a new statement from Jacobs' colleague: "My mentor who created this program [Stop the Bleed], Lenworth Jacobs, developed it because he saw that...those injuries, if treated appropriately at the scene, could have saved a few lives." (Dr. Suresh Agarwal, Chief of Trauma, UW Hospital, Oct 2017) 1:08 here: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] And finally: “When they analyzed [the victims], they realized that some of them had survivable injuries but had bled to death before they could be treated." (Dr. Jeffrey Kerby, director, UAB Division of Acute Care Surgery) [link to www.uab.edu (secure)] Contrast today's overdue frankness with the oft-cited 2013 bulletin from the American College of Surgeons, attributed to Carver and Jacobs: "Dr. Jacobs, the Chair of the State of Connecticut Committee on Trauma, who was deputized to participate in the review – revealed injuries in 26 victims that were immediately lethal." [link to bulletin.facs.org] Note the lawyerese: "revealed injuries in 26" implies injuries in all 26, without committing to it (two of these patients are in fact in the record as transported to the hospital breathing and with a pulse). More important is the subtle choice of "immediately lethal" instead of "immediately fatal." Iindications are clearer than ever that Connecticut state officials lied when they said no children injured at Sandy Hook could have been saved. According to Dr. Wayne Billups (Anderson & Rush) "a lot of these children" could have lived. [link to www.meridianstar.com (secure)] "A lot" is a staggering word. Note again Jacob's attributed 2017 statement that each died from bleeding to death. Even if only a few could have survived--and it seems clear the number is greater than a few--we absolutely must know why children died who could have lived.* We must expose as false the claim that "It doesn't matter, because no one could have been saved." Finally, we must call out those officials who have worked to keep the fatal law enforcement mistakes of December 14, 2012 hidden from the public, and from the parents. Jacobs just retired; maybe he's speaking more openly now? ------ *It's not enough to say they died "because EMTs didn't reach them in time." Given the unprecedented fatality rate, we must know exactly why EMTs didn't reach them in time. Children should be at least as worthy of study as gunshots, which were analyzed by an audio expert to the 1000th of a second. Where was the $6000 expert working to determine how each child could have been saved, or working to show that most died simply because there were only two ambulances present in the first hour of the response? Where, in fact, is ANY medical component of the CSP's Sandy Hook investigation? NOBODY died at Sandy Hook! It was a psyop from start to finish. Wake the fuck up! Seekinginformation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77366421 United States 02/12/2019 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds Makes wonder if the kid who was blamed was even a real person? Why would they not get the kids still alive treated and to the hospital? Why wait till the middle of the night to start pulling them out. It is against all the ways of handling emergencies. What were they hiding in there that they would let all these children die? It is just a strange case all around. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 02/12/2019 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds This is the chain reaction of failure: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 1. After 5 minutes of silence, shooting erupted again in the school as NPD officers fired on plainclothed state police 2. This eruption of shooting led NPD officers Chapman and Smith to think a suspect was firing again 3. Seconds later a boy burst out of Room 10 and either Chapman or Smith shot him 4. Police panicked trying to deal with this, and no one told the dispatcher there were 29 wounded. 5. The dispatcher had been told there were 2 wounded, and sent the appropriate number of ambulances for 2 wounded: 2. 6. The dispatcher did not declare an MCI i.e. call for more than 2 ambulances, because 2 wounded is not an MCI. 7. By the time dispatch found out there were 27 additional patients, half an hour had passed. 8. Dispatch now called for more ambulances; by the time they got there, patients had bled a full hour. Yeah Connecticut state administration is paying her to say the CT state administration has committed 6 years of felonies. Not. This is all you honey!: 9. Connecticut and the town of Newtown still pay people to come to GLP and lie to you about all of this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 02/12/2019 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds By the way, huge kudos to GLP as a forum for free speech. Despite the fact that free speech includes allowing PR firms to pay people to shill here--possibly at an advantage, shall we say--it is in fact that very free speech, with all its ugly noise, that made it possible to get very close to determining what happened at Sandy Hook. All that PR firm money to convince people "many ambulances came but none were needed," and the same damn PR firm created the fake hoax [faux] movement, yet the very act of arguing with the paid PR shills got us to the truth. |
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User ID: 75251329 United States 02/12/2019 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds If memory serves me they weren't even transported to hospital. They were left in building until later that night or next day. They never happens period. If if person is dead after injury or in critical condition they attempts are made to save them in the ambulance or at the hospital before being pronounced dead at the scene when it has just happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77302489 2 children were taken to Danbury hospital. The rest were left in the building over night. I had never before and never since heard of leaving murder victims in situ for 24 hours. I;m inclined to think the cops accidentally shot a child as well. It explains most of the discrepancies in testimony and the lack of medical response. Lanza may have been framed since he died the previous day, likely murdered with his mother. Sandy Hook was the intersection of Chinese interests, LIBOR and probably child trafficking. So many big players were involved they had to create something on the order of the holocaust, a story that must never be challenged to put a lid on it forever. Last Edited by FlashBuzzkill on 02/12/2019 10:26 PM Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 02/12/2019 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds If memory serves me they weren't even transported to hospital. They were left in building until later that night or next day. They never happens period. If if person is dead after injury or in critical condition they attempts are made to save them in the ambulance or at the hospital before being pronounced dead at the scene when it has just happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77302489 2 children were taken to Danbury hospital. The rest were left in the building over night. I had never before and never since heard of leaving murder victims in situ for 24 hours. I;m inclined to think the cops accidentally shot a child as well. It explains most of the discrepancies in testimony and the lack of medical response. Lanza may have been framed since he died the previous day, likely murdered with his mother. Sandy Hook was the intersection of Chinese interests, LIBOR and probably child trafficking. So many big players were involved they had to create something on the order of the holocaust, a story that must never be challenged to put a lid on it forever. Yet surely we can agree that "All the children could have been saved if police hadn't made mistakes" is not a good cover story. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 02/12/2019 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds If memory serves me they weren't even transported to hospital. They were left in building until later that night or next day. They never happens period. If if person is dead after injury or in critical condition they attempts are made to save them in the ambulance or at the hospital before being pronounced dead at the scene when it has just happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77302489 2 children were taken to Danbury hospital. The rest were left in the building over night. I had never before and never since heard of leaving murder victims in situ for 24 hours. I;m inclined to think the cops accidentally shot a child as well. It explains most of the discrepancies in testimony and the lack of medical response. Lanza may have been framed since he died the previous day, likely murdered with his mother. Sandy Hook was the intersection of Chinese interests, LIBOR and probably child trafficking. So many big players were involved they had to create something on the order of the holocaust, a story that must never be challenged to put a lid on it forever. Also far more than that were taken to hospital. See: Thread: Sandy Hook: How many victims were in Room 10? |
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User ID: 76627076 United States 02/13/2019 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds I love it that you guys keep having to shell out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Bring it, because I ain't going away, and the first responders are starting to talk. Your interest extends as far as you paycheck; mine is eternal. ....says the Coward hiding behind its anonymous i.d. lol! Dream as you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.... Only the gentle are ever really strong.... Christ Jesus is the Way.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 02/13/2019 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds I love it that you guys keep having to shell out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Bring it, because I ain't going away, and the first responders are starting to talk. Your interest extends as far as you paycheck; mine is eternal. ....says the Coward hiding behind its anonymous i.d. lol! Mm hmm because Seven7seven is on your birth certificate. Try again. Sandy Hook is a massive liability case: Most children had survivable wounds. |
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User ID: 76627076 United States 02/13/2019 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds I love it that you guys keep having to shell out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Bring it, because I ain't going away, and the first responders are starting to talk. Your interest extends as far as you paycheck; mine is eternal. ....says the Coward hiding behind its anonymous i.d. lol! Mm hmm because Seven7seven is on your birth certificate. Try again. Sandy Hook is a massive liability case: Most children had survivable wounds. No. Last Edited by Seven7seven on 02/13/2019 12:36 AM Dream as you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.... Only the gentle are ever really strong.... Christ Jesus is the Way.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69765771 United States 02/13/2019 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds I love it that you guys keep having to shell out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Bring it, because I ain't going away, and the first responders are starting to talk. Your interest extends as far as you paycheck; mine is eternal. ....says the Coward hiding behind its anonymous i.d. lol! Mm hmm because Seven7seven is on your birth certificate. Try again. Sandy Hook is a massive liability case: Most children had survivable wounds. No. You may be right - It could be that all children had survivable wounds. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds Ever heard of fake news? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42270646 Now ask yourself who owns most of the news outlets now! Do your research. I already have. Yes, the news was fake. The news cycle immediately headlined, "Many ambulances came, but none were needed." The exact opposite was true, in the first hour of the response: There were exactly two ambulances for 29 patients. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77021014 United States 02/13/2019 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds "Dr. Jacobs took it upon himself to review each of the autopsies, and what he found was that they each died from bleeding to death. Dr. Jacobs was angered and wanted to find a solution..." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 Ponder that for a minute. Clearly, we are not talking about only a "few" children, but many. The fact that children at Sandy Hook School died as a result of police mistakes should have been shouted from the hilltops. NOT because we want to shame people, but because without that level of shouting, the average American had--and still has--no idea that the most critical failure in the Sandy Hook response has gone completely unaddressed. YES we are re-training, nationwide, on hemorrhage control. That's because many medical professionals know Sandy Hook kids died unnecessarily. YES we are re-training on evacuation and reunification procedures, because emergency response administrators know the Sandy Hook evac and reunification was a train wreck. We are NOT retraining on how exactly police failed to declare an MCI, a failure which set in motion a catastrophic chain reaction resulting in only two ambulances being sent for 29 gunshot wound victims in the first hour. No helicopters?? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds "Dr. Jacobs took it upon himself to review each of the autopsies, and what he found was that they each died from bleeding to death. Dr. Jacobs was angered and wanted to find a solution..." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 Ponder that for a minute. Clearly, we are not talking about only a "few" children, but many. The fact that children at Sandy Hook School died as a result of police mistakes should have been shouted from the hilltops. NOT because we want to shame people, but because without that level of shouting, the average American had--and still has--no idea that the most critical failure in the Sandy Hook response has gone completely unaddressed. YES we are re-training, nationwide, on hemorrhage control. That's because many medical professionals know Sandy Hook kids died unnecessarily. YES we are re-training on evacuation and reunification procedures, because emergency response administrators know the Sandy Hook evac and reunification was a train wreck. We are NOT retraining on how exactly police failed to declare an MCI, a failure which set in motion a catastrophic chain reaction resulting in only two ambulances being sent for 29 gunshot wound victims in the first hour. No helicopters?? Exactly. There were no helicopters, for the exact same reason that there wasn't a third (or fourth or fifth) ambulance in the first hour: No one in the dispatch center knew they were needed. |
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User ID: 77197203 United States 02/13/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds This quagmire is making my skin crawl. “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds The police audio proving this, ironically, has been available from day one. The 911 comes in at 9:35; dispatcher doesn't send more than two ambulances for half an hour. When an EMTs voice appears on the med frequency saying "Call for everything," the dispatcher's voice then breaks when he starts toning people out; he knows the ramifications of his having sent only 2 rigs for 30 minutes to a scene that actually needed him to send "everything." |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds Let me see the bodies...thank you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73634474 And laughing dad maybe he would not laugh upon seeing her non-laughable dead corpse..... Neither US police nor media publish photos of deceased (white) American children, unless a photo has been submitted as an exhibit in a jury trial. You don't see photos of children who have died in car crashes, for example, even though those accident scenes are far more accessible to journalists (and citizens) than the scene of a school shooting. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds "Stop the Bleed was developed by medical professional after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting that killed 20 children and six staff members in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012... "'Many of those lives could have been saved if someone would have known how to stop the bleeding,' she said.' [link to www.jsonline.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds "When the American College of Surgeons looked back at the Sandy Hook school shooting, they found that some deaths could have been prevented if people on site were trained in basic bleeding control techniques," explained Dr. Jeff Kerby, a professor of surgery at the University of Alabama School of Medicine in Birmingham." [link to medicalxpress.com (secure)] WHO? Who, exactly, could have lived? State police documented every, single bullet, casing, bullet fragment, down to its literal GPS coordinates - but as far as the children's deaths, we just say "Some could have been prevented?" WHOSE deaths could have been prevented? Which children? Which classroom? Who? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40508446 Canada 02/13/2019 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds "Dr. Jacobs took it upon himself to review each of the autopsies, and what he found was that they each died from bleeding to death. Dr. Jacobs was angered and wanted to find a solution..." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 Ponder that for a minute. Clearly, we are not talking about only a "few" children, but many. The fact that children at Sandy Hook School died as a result of police mistakes should have been shouted from the hilltops. NOT because we want to shame people, but because without that level of shouting, the average American had--and still has--no idea that the most critical failure in the Sandy Hook response has gone completely unaddressed. YES we are re-training, nationwide, on hemorrhage control. That's because many medical professionals know Sandy Hook kids died unnecessarily. YES we are re-training on evacuation and reunification procedures, because emergency response administrators know the Sandy Hook evac and reunification was a train wreck. We are NOT retraining on how exactly police failed to declare an MCI, a failure which set in motion a catastrophic chain reaction resulting in only two ambulances being sent for 29 gunshot wound victims in the first hour. No helicopters?? Exactly. There were no helicopters, for the exact same reason that there wasn't a third (or fourth or fifth) ambulance in the first hour: No one in the dispatch center knew they were needed. Or its because it was all fake. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69950254 United States 02/13/2019 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 Ponder that for a minute. Clearly, we are not talking about only a "few" children, but many. The fact that children at Sandy Hook School died as a result of police mistakes should have been shouted from the hilltops. NOT because we want to shame people, but because without that level of shouting, the average American had--and still has--no idea that the most critical failure in the Sandy Hook response has gone completely unaddressed. YES we are re-training, nationwide, on hemorrhage control. That's because many medical professionals know Sandy Hook kids died unnecessarily. YES we are re-training on evacuation and reunification procedures, because emergency response administrators know the Sandy Hook evac and reunification was a train wreck. We are NOT retraining on how exactly police failed to declare an MCI, a failure which set in motion a catastrophic chain reaction resulting in only two ambulances being sent for 29 gunshot wound victims in the first hour. No helicopters?? Exactly. There were no helicopters, for the exact same reason that there wasn't a third (or fourth or fifth) ambulance in the first hour: No one in the dispatch center knew they were needed. Or its because it was all fake. Thread: Sandy Hook: Who Started the Hoax Movement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77350518 United Kingdom 02/13/2019 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds The "no first responders were allowed to enter" is early disinfo. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254 There weren't any first responders on scene TO allow to enter. They weren't even toned out until after 10:03 a.m. That's a full half hour after patients began bleeding. I would say this thread is disinfo, the "anger" by the trauma director is disinfo. |