Hartford Hospital trauma director "angered" after finding Sandy Hook children had survivable wounds

Except that the state suppressed this information as hard as it could. It even forced Dr. Jacobs to publish a murky joint "statement" with Carver saying (sort-of, but not really) that no one could have survived.

Sandy Hook is simply a liability case, albeit far from a simple liability case.

In insurance liability (in wrongful death suits, for example), is calculated down to the percent.

For example, the school left the boiler room door open; it didn't give Lauren Rousseau a key; it didn't enforce the district's (claimed) classroom door security protocols, etc. etc. etc.

That's just the school; then we have the fact that most children could have lived DESPITE being shot. That liability should be calculated between the Newtown Police Department, possibly Newtown Emergency Communications Center, and of course personally by officers who had an individual role so significant that they personally might bear a liability (or criminal charge).

And on and on and on and on.

I remember the early days when PR firm employees came to the Sandy Hook threads and worked diligently to try and get the third ambulance "on scene" as early as possible in the December 14 response.

"Redding was there by 10:17," etc. etc.

No way.

We now have Redding's own testimony saying that not only were they not on scene by 10:17, they actually DIVERTED from the school call and went instead to the teacher having breathing difficulties at a nearby business.

And God if I only had the patience to go back and tell the Metaflunk posers to stuff it, lol. But I don't.

Every single one of those frauds is putting kids' lives in danger by perpetuating the myth that there are "no lessons to be learned" from SH.

Posting anonymously on GLP, Alex?

No, but I'd like to meet Alex if s/he agrees with me about the wound descriptions.

"Jacobs and other like-minded surgeons formed a group that expanded to include law enforcement and other first responders who developed strategies for helping victims survive.

In many school shootings, more victims could be saved if someone had at least slowed their bleeding.

"It takes a long time, longer than it takes to bleed to death, to clear the classroom, secure it and make sure there's not another shooter," he said. "The person who is going to save you is the person right beside you.""

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"During the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, countless victims bled to death before they made it to the hospital. The harrowing scene led to this very commission of trauma surgeons, emergency responders, and law enforcement officials committed to stopping the bleed and helping more people survive these tragic events."

[link to columbiasurgery.org]

Debunk this.

The TRUTH doesn't have endless loose ends and conflicting stories.

This pile of lies does.

Good luck.

Well.

Clearly the non-disclosure agreements have expired.

We now have doctors starting to give actual statistics as to how many children had survivable wounds.

"If we go back to Sandy Hook, about a third of those children could have been saved had we had this operational," said Dr. Thomas Scalea, physician-in-chief at the R Adams Cowley Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore, and one of the campaign's instructors. "The paramedics aren't going to get there right away."

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There are competing truths here, for sure.

There is the truth that police made deadly mistakes, and the truth that their lawyers don't want those deadly mistakes known.

There is also the truth that some of the trauma physicians--and even some police officers themselves--want the truth of the deadly mistakes known.

CSP Sgt Bill Cario, for example, worked very hard in his final report to drop big hints and timestamps showing the Newtown police statements (most of them) were untrue. There's even one Newtown officer who does this.

The final report is a pile of lies, to be sure, but there are truths hidden throughout.

Please feel free to bring forward Whatever PROOF you can find. I'll look over your OP in more detail but it seems to me like more conflicting stories, which do help to dispel the clear lie of the official story but I still want to know why no first responders were allowed in, why bodies were supposedly removed at night off camera and who the fuck exactly pronounced these supposed kids dead. And quite a few more questions but I don't have all day.

I'd love to see something conclusive. I sifted pretty thoroughly through the Bullshit back in the day, let's just say I know the difference between Sandy Hook and St Rose Of Lima...

The problem in the first hour was that there were hardly any first responders to let in.

For a full 30 minutes, dispatcher Bob Nute was told there were "two down." So he sent the appropriate number of resources: two ambulances.

Keep in mind this is an all-volunteer town; all ambulance staff are volunteers, and Newtown shares a single paramedic between three towns.

They literally sent two ambulances and one paramedic to a scene that had 29 gunshot wound victims, because no on told them there were more than two patients.

Why is a longer story, but it's absolutely provable that the dispatcher knew nothing of the additional patients.

When he DOES find out, his emotion is palpable. He knows damn well what it means that no other ambulances have been called for 30 minutes, because it will be another 30 minutes before they can then get there.

That's a full hour for people to bleed.

The victims were pronounced dead by paramedics John Reed, Cassavechia and one other.

..."KID'S STUFF"...BEST LINE EVER...!



SHOULD WE START OT WORRRY?

Your brain is a false flag.

Lmao

Lmao

WHO, exactly, had survivable wounds?

For starters, the children who were transported in police cars or fly cars (later lied about as having never been transported).

Thread: Sandy Hook: How many victims were in Room 10?

These school shooters are different than the standard " set perimeter and negotiate" type of scenarios....the shooter is trying to rack up a body count and not interested in negotiations.....


The responds have to be an immediate aggressive assault neutralizing the shooter to minimize casualties....

I agree!

"“In a situation like Sandy Hook where you have an active shooter, EMS can’t get into the building until they’re sure it’s safe,” Kerby says. “When they analyzed [the victims], they realized that some of them had survivable injuries but had bled to death before they could be treated. So if there had been people inside the building who had the tools and training, they possibly could have stopped the bleeding and saved lives.”"

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The doctor who analyzed the victims was not at Sandy Hook that day. Have William Cario, Patrick Dragon, William Blumenthal, Matt Cassavechia, John Reed, or Bernie Meehan said that the victims they saw and attempted to resuscitate with defibrillators, had survivable wounds?

We don't know what they said because their original reports are 100% redacted. Only a CSP employee's "summary" is available for each.

However, Carver phoned Jacobs and told him what he was seeing.

And I don't think you want Cario's statement on the Room 12 boy declassified.

And you don't have to be at the crime scene to analyze an autopsy. GSW to the arm + deceased = all you need to know.

Many or most of the Sandy Hook pediatric victims had survivable wounds, period.

The Hartford Consensus says otherwise

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The report says they died almost immediately. Show me a direct quote from Jacobs where he says they had survivable wounds.

Rachel Scott and the majority of the Columbine victims, if not all were left overnight for what it's worth. I remember seeing a picture somewhere of her lifeless body.

The Sandy Hook victims weren't left overnight, amazing how much people get wrong about this. They read some claim somewhere, then pass it on. It gets passed on so many times, people accept it as fact.

Carver says they were removed at approximately 10:30



The bodies were left in Columbine, cops had to search the school for bombs.

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Davis said once the school was found to be secure, investigators would be allowed into the building and the bodies inside would be removed"

Last Edited by TomShillington on 03/28/2022 11:53 PM