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T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 72722600 Netherlands 02/20/2019 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? Quoting: 589 tbh thats how learning stuff works.. first you know nothing. then as you go on you learn more and more. but thats aside from the topic (i dont see what this has to do with athism tbh) or me agreeing or not. |
StudMuffin
User ID: 76986460 United States 02/20/2019 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? Quoting: 589 Or if evolution is the real deal..then why out of billions of species to ever grace planet earth, why only human beings evolved to have advanced intelligence? Out of billions of species..only one (us) evolved to have our kind of intelligence. [-StudMuffin-] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76860697 United States 02/20/2019 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? Quoting: 589 Airtight logic you got there, poindexter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52055181 United States 02/20/2019 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians: please explain why no one has ever sailed off the edge of the flat earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52055181 This isn't a christian thread but they'd probably benefit. So far though atheists haven't really provided an argument but got rekt and ran scared. My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? Don't be silly, we both know atheism is solely instituted on exactly that question You couldn't be more wrong. Atheist: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods" It's like asking - Atheists: why do shop at Costco but not Sam's Club. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77335774 United States 02/20/2019 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians: please explain why no one has ever sailed off the edge of the flat earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52055181 This isn't a christian thread but they'd probably benefit. So far though atheists haven't really provided an argument but got rekt and ran scared. My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? I am curious why atheists don't believe in god or the supernatrual when there are numerous reports of OBE's, NDE's, spirits-souls, and high probability of an after life. Science today cannot explain everything, but there are numerous reports from people about such things... are all of them lying? |
Arius
User ID: 6964360 United States 02/20/2019 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 589 If humans started building cities 20000 years ago, why did we surpass them x1000 in 6000 years? Obviously if humans were smart enough to build cities, in 25000 years. They would have accomplished something. If otherwise what changed so drastically? Building with giant rocks is not the same as modern tech. The populations of those early people were very small. The true geniuses who are capable of advancing entire societies are rare and far in between. We are still using Teslas AC power grid 150 years after he invented it. Still using NAZI rocket engines. etc, etc Building with giant rocks would be considered monolithic, meaning it would stand the test of time. Like the pyramids, gobleki tepe or baalbek. However, it is not technologically "advanced" to build a pyramid with todays standards. It just takes a lot of horsepower. Pyramids are just artificial hills so are the most stable form to build with if you have not invented steel I beams yet. Pour sand out of a bucket and it will form a pyramid shaped hill. Domino effect. It takes the invention of a particular invention to advance. Once the advancement occurs, other technology can come along. Once man knew how to control and create fire look what occurred after? Once the wheel was founded look what occurred. These advancements in civilizations can't occur until something first comes along such as the farming example used above. Until man figured out how to tend the lands to farm and how to herd properly, we were nomadic. All starts from when a particular technology is created which webs out. That's why it's important that we continue to advance our technology in all fields of science. |
The Gullible Skeptic
User ID: 76497926 United States 02/20/2019 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? Quoting: 589 Been many rises and falls of civilization. Probably a much more civilization existed before our current one. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8547422 United States 02/20/2019 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea is that civilizations rise and then are wiped out in a cycle by catastrophe. So of course, we don't remember those previously destroyed. There are echoes of this in many world religions. Noah's flood is one example. Quoting: gmigriff THIS^ There is evidence that organized civilization created structures, etc. well before what we understand within our accepted historical record. Gobekli Tepe is at least 11,000 years old The Sphinx may be at least 7,000+ years old More and more ancient structures are being found all over the world. There is even the theory of Antarctica having entire "cities" under the ice that existed before earth crust displacement caused the continent to become the frozen environment it is today. Here's a question for athiests... If we're all just a result of some random big bang event that occurred billions of years ago then what existed before then? If nothing existed, then what caused the big bang? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77083844 Netherlands 02/20/2019 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 589 This isn't a christian thread but they'd probably benefit. So far though atheists haven't really provided an argument but got rekt and ran scared. My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? Don't be silly, we both know atheism is solely instituted on exactly that question You couldn't be more wrong. Atheist: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods" It's like asking - Atheists: why do shop at Costco but not Sam's Club. Ofcourse that is the definition of atheism but its supporters are strengthened and complemented on darwinistic ideaology |
psyoptics
User ID: 70873621 United States 02/20/2019 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea is that civilizations rise and then are wiped out in a cycle by catastrophe. So of course, we don't remember those previously destroyed. There are echoes of this in many world religions. Noah's flood is one example. Quoting: gmigriff Noah's flood.. another beautiful story. Another bearded guy who managed to build a boat out of wood and fit 2 of every single animal on it, and manage to have enough food to feed them for 40 days and nights.... smh Guess he had invented turbine engines also so that he could get from continent to continent in time to save the animals before the flood You may have missed his point. The flood story isn't a one off thing and intended focus isn't about a dude and a boat with animals. It exists in many cultures and varies somewhat but 'echos' a common theme. Humans were almost wiped out by a great flood. [link to youtu.be (secure)] and this may not have been the only ELE over the years....... something very bad happened in India a long tome ago....... tech used to create structures all over this planet we today can not reproduce.....even with all our tech....... now the one thing evolution does not include......outside intervention...... some will call them gods...other just aliens......but the outcomes was the same. a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
TheOracle'sCookie
User ID: 76948143 United States 02/20/2019 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | title--didn't think you would get many reasonable replies bringing in "apples and oranges" topic where Atheism and evolution are connected...but by gosh, you did it! I'm only directing you, personally, to this thread and the "featured video" which will blow your socks off if you are REALLY interested in knowing why humans have supposedly been on the planet for "millions of years" yet here we are where we are (that's a subjective opinion, right?) I'm also thinking we should be at the level of STAR TREK by now...but we are far from it. So...check out the video and the discussion on this thread for how I would answer YOU PERSONALLY. Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Featured video on this thread is: [link to youtu.be (secure)] LISTEN WITH YOUR WHOLE MIND TO JUST THE FIRST 5 MINUTES (even rewind and listen 2 or 3 times to his first comments..."This will make you mad.") So, IMHO your ANSWER is there. And here is the "poster child image" for Dr. Vogt's video: O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 02/20/2019 02:07 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52055181 United States 02/20/2019 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians: please explain why no one has ever sailed off the edge of the flat earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52055181 This isn't a christian thread but they'd probably benefit. So far though atheists haven't really provided an argument but got rekt and ran scared. My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? I am curious why atheists don't believe in god or the supernatrual when there are numerous reports of OBE's, NDE's, spirits-souls, and high probability of an after life. Science today cannot explain everything, but there are numerous reports from people about such things... are all of them lying? I totally believe in OBE's, NDE's spririts and souls and I know that I'm am eternal and that I'm a spirit occupying a human body. However I do not believe in God or gods. I don't know how old the Earth is and neither do you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77083844 Netherlands 02/20/2019 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea is that civilizations rise and then are wiped out in a cycle by catastrophe. So of course, we don't remember those previously destroyed. There are echoes of this in many world religions. Noah's flood is one example. Quoting: gmigriff THIS^ There is evidence that organized civilization created structures, etc. well before what we understand within our accepted historical record. Gobekli Tepe is at least 11,000 years old The Sphinx may be at least 7,000+ years old More and more ancient structures are being found all over the world. There is even the theory of Antarctica having entire "cities" under the ice that existed before earth crust displacement caused the continent to become the frozen environment it is today. Here's a question for athiests... If we're all just a result of some random big bang event that occurred billions of years ago then what existed before then? If nothing existed, then what caused the big bang? You should take carbon dating with a little grain of salt though. Saying Gobekli tepe is 11.000 years old isnt an exact estimate. It's more like between 5000-11000 years old, meaning scientists estimate it on its maximum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52055181 United States 02/20/2019 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52055181 My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? Don't be silly, we both know atheism is solely instituted on exactly that question You couldn't be more wrong. Atheist: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods" It's like asking - Atheists: why do shop at Costco but not Sam's Club. Ofcourse that is the definition of atheism but its supporters are strengthened and complemented on darwinistic ideaology What age do people who don't believe in the Easter Bunny believe the Earth is? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77083844 Netherlands 02/20/2019 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You couldn't be more wrong. Atheist: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods" It's like asking - Atheists: why do shop at Costco but not Sam's Club. Ofcourse that is the definition of atheism but its supporters are strengthened and complemented on darwinistic ideaology What age do people who don't believe in the Easter Bunny believe the Earth is? We both know you're running out of arguments. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52055181 United States 02/20/2019 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52055181 You couldn't be more wrong. Atheist: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods" It's like asking - Atheists: why do shop at Costco but not Sam's Club. Ofcourse that is the definition of atheism but its supporters are strengthened and complemented on darwinistic ideaology What age do people who don't believe in the Easter Bunny believe the Earth is? We both know you're running out of arguments. If all people that don't believe in God believe that the Earth is the same age then surely by your logic all people that don't believe in the Easter Bunny must have the same belief about the earths age. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77335774 United States 02/20/2019 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 589 This isn't a christian thread but they'd probably benefit. So far though atheists haven't really provided an argument but got rekt and ran scared. My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? I am curious why atheists don't believe in god or the supernatrual when there are numerous reports of OBE's, NDE's, spirits-souls, and high probability of an after life. Science today cannot explain everything, but there are numerous reports from people about such things... are all of them lying? I totally believe in OBE's, NDE's spririts and souls and I know that I'm am eternal and that I'm a spirit occupying a human body. However I do not believe in God or gods. I don't know how old the Earth is and neither do you. Ok admittedly I did not know that about atheists. I thought they do not believe in anything besides physical nature and that we happen to have life by random luck, born, and die forever. So the main contention is about god or a creator? So how do atheists explain how the entire universe functions? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52055181 United States 02/20/2019 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52055181 My point is that being an Atheist has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs of the age of the earth. Just as being a Christian has absolutely nothing to do with ones beliefs that the earth is flat or round. Being an atheist merely means one does not believe in god. What is so difficult about this that you just can't seem to get it trough your thick skull? I am curious why atheists don't believe in god or the supernatrual when there are numerous reports of OBE's, NDE's, spirits-souls, and high probability of an after life. Science today cannot explain everything, but there are numerous reports from people about such things... are all of them lying? I totally believe in OBE's, NDE's spririts and souls and I know that I'm am eternal and that I'm a spirit occupying a human body. However I do not believe in God or gods. I don't know how old the Earth is and neither do you. Ok admittedly I did not know that about atheists. I thought they do not believe in anything besides physical nature and that we happen to have life by random luck, born, and die forever. So the main contention is about god or a creator? So how do atheists explain how the entire universe functions? Atheism is simply the non belief in God or gods. You would have to ask each individual atheist to get their views on the universe etc. It's not like we have a book like your Bible that programs us all to the same belief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75313639 United States 02/20/2019 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolution doesn't occur over night, but as things become more evolved, the jump in advancement exponentially increases. What does that have anything to do with the fact there is no superior being in the sky with a beard opening a gate for you to get in. Quoting: Masturbation_Specialist Evolution? LOL No such thing and now scientists are now coming forth calling BS i=on it. Stick to materbating you heathen. |
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psyoptics
User ID: 70873621 United States 02/20/2019 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a little skeptical at first when I saw your thread Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie title--didn't think you would get many reasonable replies bringing in "apples and oranges" topic where Atheism and evolution are connected...but by gosh, you did it! I'm only directing you, personally, to this thread and the "featured video" which will blow your socks off if you are REALLY interested in knowing why humans have supposedly been on the planet for "millions of years" yet here we are where we are (that's a subjective opinion, right?) I'm also thinking we should be at the level of STAR TREK by now...but we are far from it. So...check out the video and the discussion on this thread for how I would answer YOU PERSONALLY. Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Featured video on this thread is: [link to youtu.be (secure)] LISTEN WITH YOUR WHOLE MIND TO JUST THE FIRST 5 MINUTES (even rewind and listen 2 or 3 times to his first comments..."This will make you mad.") So, IMHO your ANSWER is there. And here is the "poster child image" for Dr. Vogt's video: O'sCookie and this......what did this to mars????? [link to mars.nasa.gov (secure)] huge scar on the face of Mars. a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76879092 United States 02/20/2019 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a little skeptical at first when I saw your thread Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie title--didn't think you would get many reasonable replies bringing in "apples and oranges" topic where Atheism and evolution are connected...but by gosh, you did it! I'm only directing you, personally, to this thread and the "featured video" which will blow your socks off if you are REALLY interested in knowing why humans have supposedly been on the planet for "millions of years" yet here we are where we are (that's a subjective opinion, right?) I'm also thinking we should be at the level of STAR TREK by now...but we are far from it. So...check out the video and the discussion on this thread for how I would answer YOU PERSONALLY. Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Featured video on this thread is: [link to youtu.be (secure)] :FairUSE: LISTEN WITH YOUR WHOLE MIND TO JUST THE FIRST 5 MINUTES (even rewind and listen 2 or 3 times to his first comments..."This will make you mad.") So, IMHO your ANSWER is there. And here is the "poster child image" for Dr. Vogt's video: :DrkUrizen: O'sCookie and this......what did this to mars????? [link to mars.nasa.gov (secure)] huge scar on the face of Mars. Mars was born that way, you planophobe! |
Nemesis8
The Greatest Light User ID: 73697154 United States 02/20/2019 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? Quoting: 589 Cyclical planetary cataclysms. Tic...Tic..Tic. Yes - Ages of Mankind... We are in the Judgmental Era of the Fourth Age already. Best be prepared. "Fiat Lux et Veritas" |
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The Searcher
User ID: 77386153 United Kingdom 02/20/2019 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Not strange at all Human. You are unaware of past and present events. Your World has had Millions of Civilisations that have come and gone. It is a natural Cycle that you and all others have no knowledge of. The passing of your Binary Star's interrupts/can destroy Epoch's and is a continual process. Just as now your are going through one of these Cycles and your World is undergoing an Expansion event. The result of these changes will leave your current populations greatly denuded and a new Cycle will begin. Your Modern World will end to be born again. Some past Civilisations have withstood these changes and have progressed further than you have Today. The last great one was 12k Solar Orbits ago. This is the sequence. 1MSS+10 AT X 1BDS+7x3.2/6. Less than 1 SO to Position X. The Earth created humans because it needed plastic |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 02/20/2019 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If life and sapiens already walked the earth for millions of years why is it that there is only a few thousand years of civilization and history? Seems strange. That means in 6000 years we went to the moon, and for millions of years we were retarded? Quoting: 589 it means that up to 100,000 years ago, our forebearers were little more than monkeys. |
Spinman
User ID: 75437066 United States 02/20/2019 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys running around? Why haven't alligators evolved in 8 million years? "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. John Adams |