Atheists: If life is millions of years old

because they didn't.

Well, first of all, Homo Sapiens did not walk the earth for millions of years. Modern Homo Sapiens has been traced back to about 200,000 years. So we were only retarded for about 150,000 years or so.

Second of all, if it were not for the various religions killing each other and burning libraries and books, we could have made it to the moon in 4,000 years instead of 6,000. We would be exploring other star systems by now if it weren't for religion on this planet.

Finally, if you're attempting to discredit evolution in favor of the Neo-Christian 6,000 year creation story, you need to educate yourself on the topic. If you want to argue against evolution, you first have to *understand* evolution, which means you need to study it. Had you studied it in any seriousness and attained at the very minimum a basic understanding of it, you would not have even asked this question.

The reason I've read and studed the Bible and the Koran as an atheist? So I know what I'm talking about when I debate religious folks.

I think that what you point out about the "scar on Mars"
moves the "fall of mankind" further AWAY from our local
Earth catastrophies all the way out to what happens to
our solar system (with or without a "doom cycle.")...
and only 2 or 3 of the following "disaster scenarios" that plow
humanity back into the stone age would qualify for
that...UDECIDE!




AND...ABOUT THIS VIDEO (Posted on page 1)


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Man..I have listened to the first 25=28 minutes of this
video and I can tell I am going to have to watch it at least
a couple of times to "soak in" all the info Randall Carlson
is offering up with his presentation! I have a solid
background in geology (it was one of my college minors)...
and I am still have trouble keeping up with the pace of
what he's showing us. But it is well worth the extra repeats
to watch, especially because he's talking about the areas
where I currently live!

So...that being said...Here are just a few of the current
theories ALL IN ONE PLACE concerning the "Great Flood"/Earth
Disasters
12,000 years ago (that is NOT "Noah's Flood" of the Bible
which would have been a localized flood around the Mediterranean
--maybe 5 or 6,000 years ago--and blending THAT FLOOD with this
OLDER FLOOD to form "one story" as I understand it from sources I've read.)
GLP's "Adv.Search" option at top of screen right side
gives you the chance to search by "title or subject"
to find lots of threads covered by the following 5 or 6
"catastrophy theories."...Also...you can google for more
info (which all explain why humanity is 1,000,000s of years
old...but our greatest achievement by 2019 is the Taco Bell meal deal (I'm kidding):


1. The Vela Super Nova of 9,500 b.c.

Dr. Paul LaViolette who wrote the "reader-friendly version"
of catastrophic astronomy "Earth Under Fire" suggests that
a MOTHER STAR at the center of the Milky Way has a CYCLE
OF 12,000 YEARS where in it has a "Micro Nova" (much as we
are learning the sun has) and sends huge waves of exotic
energies and jets of gamma ray bursts outward to the edges
of the Milky Way and beyond. THIS "Galactic Super Wave"
TRIGGERED at least one (maybe more) red giant star to
go SUERNOVA which in turn sent dust, comets and other debris
toward our earth causing the flood and global quake.

Dr. LaViolette's website is at this link:
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Dr Stephen Mehler gives a "quick and dirty" on
the Vela Super Nova and what it did to ancient
Egypt--a theory which proves the pyramids are at
least 12,000 years old or older. Mehler stops short
of connecting the star Vela's supernova to the
Galactic Super Wave..but LaViolette explains the
connection in Earth Under Fire (and some Youtube videos)


2. THE COMET THEORY (Dr. Randal Carlson and Graham Hancock)

Similar to the Vela Super Nova idea from Paul Laviolette
but a much more "local event" to the earth is their theory
that a very large comet came through the solar system (they
do not give a source for this comet) and struck at RANDOM
--not as a cycle event--the ICE SHEETS of the Earth's
glaciers at the end of the last ice age. This is where Dr. Carlson's
video begins as he covers what happened specific to our
Pacific NW of the U.S. (although this would have been a
global flood of the NORTHERN HEMEISPHERE and not just
limited to the U.S. and Canada. Below is a thread and a
really excellent video I believe is superior to the one
featured from the poster...but that's for you to decide if you
choose to watch it.)
Thread: Christmas 9,500 b.c."Wave" in the Pacific NorthWest (U.S.A.)--What they didn't tell us in School!

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3. The Solar Micro-Nova (from researcher Dr. Douglas Vogt)

The GREATEST SECRET the U.S. has....

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1 hr. duration from researcher Dr. Douglas Vogt

Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,

This thread was posted by "Adragon" the end of December 2018 with
various parts of the series continuing with other posts
thru this month (2-2019) and is especially interesting, since
Dr.Vogt points out how this information has been systematically
suppressed by various governments around the planet for
decades and may even be why the U.S. Government set up
NASA in the 1950's. They needed to study whether this theory is TRUE
and how the heck we can survive the next "cycle" coming
up within 3 decades (or less.)

It pretty much gives us the "rest of the story" that OP
is looking for as to WHY HUMANS ARE 1,000,000S OF YEARS
ON THE PLANET and our advancements seem to be so pueny
in comparison to this timeline. The sun has a MICRO-NOVA
CYCLE of about 12,068 years where it erupts its dust
shell toward the inner solar system and creates chaos for
hundreds of years blowing all advanced civilizations back
to the STONE AGE in the process. So according to Dr. Vogt
...Humans have about 10,000 years "after the dust settles"
from the last Micro-Nova and the ice age comes and goes
again where they can RE-ESTABLISH CIVILIZATION and begin
over again. We are about 3 decades, according to Dr. Vogt
from the NEXT Solar Micro-nova...So we are essentially
as "good as it gets" this time around (and we haven't
colonized other planets to save ourselves, unfortunately.)


4. THE CORE OF THE EARTH IS DESTABLIZING...CAUSING A CRUSTAL
& MAGNETIC POLE SHIFT (AND THIS HAPPENS ON A CYCLE AS WELL)

The worries about what happens in the movie "2012."


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Great thread on "crustal pole shift"
Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , Updated Catastrophe video pg. 114

5. Immanuel Velikovsky's theories...from his book "Worlds
in Collision"

This has a multi-level events which pretty much throws
mankind back into the stone age...but not necessarily on
a neat 12,000 year timeline (as Carlson's, Hancock's, Mehler's,
or Dr. Vogt's theories.) Velikovsky sees the universe as
a huge billiar-ball game with things moving around...such
as Venus or Mars changing their positions in orbit and
causing great chaos...or eruptions from Jupiter and Saturn
that can send objects colliding in space, etc. A great BBC
Documentary on Velikovsky has been posted on GLP many times
and is still a very interesting watch. Link below:


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I did a couple of threads on the Velikovsky theories
as well as his "secret friendship" with Dr. Carl Jung
(Father of modern Analytical Psychology) I think is
a fair presentation:
Thread: Dr. Carl Jung's "Catastrophe-Art" Meets Velikovski, Vogt, Davidson and the Solar Micro-Nova--Did Jung KNOW?
and
Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video

6. The "END-TIMES RELIGIONS" (including Christianity,
Judaism, Hinduism and Islam)...

God creates, God is pleased...and watches, God assesses our progress
(good or bad over an undisclosed amount of time)...God is
disappointed and...God moves his hand to wipe out civilization to start
over again (or not.) Lots of videos on this one...Start with the
"10 Commandments" with Charleton Heston.


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(HD version restored.)

Good thread in this category:
Thread: Thought I'd something more to say...

There it is! Humanity doesn't have enough time
between global disasters to gain the scientific
knowledge (matched with MORAL WISDOM) to be able
to escape to the stars and realize our potential.
We appear to be "blessed" with a repeating cycle
of events THAT KEEPS US HERE...NOW...AS WE ARE.


O'sCookie

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Yes.


Fundaments.
Like the 7 or 8 layers of Troy.
A 100,000 years isn't long in geological terms, so no reason for stones to cease existing.
This day and age with ground-penetrating radar and remote-viewing it is much harder for such things to hide.


This is incorrect.
Frex the Great Pyramids of Gizeh were never missing.
Gizeh is a suburb of Cairo, you know.
Some pyramids were more or less buried, and we still found them.

70,000 years ago homo sapiens almost went extinct during the last ice age. There have been other natural and man-made disasters throughout human history that have impacted advancement.

But by your arguments it seems that you have already made up your mind that evolution is not valid, so why post the question?

We've been basically the same for 300,000 years give or take a few.

We've had 5 previous global civilizations completely wiped out, with exception to artifacts here and there.

The atlantis global civilization was lightyears ahead of what the global cabal allows us to see in our own tech.

it's for sure neither of you every evolved.

Now imagine if something was 10X as old, how much deeper it would be and difficult to find

nice fantasy. but the fossil record clearly shows
the humanoids were probably little more than monkeys
100,000 years ago.
(not space cadets flying back and forth from Mars)

The Ice Ages began 2.4 million years ago and lasted until 11,500 years ago. During this time, the earth's climate repeatedly changed between very cold periods, during which glaciers covered large parts of the world (see map below), and very warm periods during which many of the glaciers melted.

So your argument is that for ~200-300.000 years humans were surviving variating climates? Even still that seems a very, very long time for humans to survive without making any advancements, nor leaving a trace.

You would expect that if humans would have survived according to your theory, they would have by all means accomplished, atleast something (in 300.000 years) and there would be evidence. But there isnt. We have populated the earth in 6000 years, 7.7 billion people on the planet.

Do you see how you dont make any sense?

The fossil record?

Or your belief in scientists?

You think we found ever fossil?

because axis shift happen and knock people out. and then it starts again.

Officially the first evolved humans ON this planet became early human about 1 million years ago... This is in the UB. But we have been colonized by peoples from elsewhere since at least the days of the dinosaurs... LONG LONG before evolving Human appeared on this world.

Earth was seeded with beginning life about 550 million years ago... when it was settled enough to support. It was seeded per the norm with one celled stuff and early plant life.. because the atompshere was hugely carbon dioxide.. and plants are necessary to build up the oxygen necessary for animal life to appear.

they've been doing a good job of uncovering stuff for
the past 150 years. btw, if they find something they
are not going to suppress it, they are attention whores,
rust like the rest.

But we regularly find things that are billions of years old.
Archaeologists aren't the only people digging, you know.

The oldest archaeological site in the Netherlands is 500,000 years old, it's just a collection of flint-knappings, the basement of some prehistorical king would be easier to find.

There's absolutely no evidence for a civilisation predating the Holocene, and at some point the absence of evidence becomes evidence for absence.




Maybe they are just mistaken.
None of these claims can be verified.

Such an ginormous claim as "There is a God" requires very solid evidence, not hearsay.




Honestly, having to ask this question tells me that your school failed your biology education.
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They have evolved, why do you think that there are so many species fo krokodiles?
They are very well adapted to their environment though, so less evolutionary pressure as long as that environment doesn't change.
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Yes, the fossil record.
We have millions of specimen.


You want to call hundreds of thousand of people liars because their finding conflict with your preconcieved notions?
Really?


I have found fossils.
So can you.

Am I a liar?

There were atheists before Darwin and modern science.
Heck, Socrates was sentenced to death for being an atheist.



What kind of idiot would carbon date ROCKS!?


They DID make advances.
The quality and sophistication of the tools made and left behind continuously improves.
That's why we have terms like Paleolithic, Mesolithic, and Neolithic.


Just admit that you don't know anything about prehistory and are just talking out of your patute.
Any opinion based on ignorance is worth exactly as much as we paid for it.

Are you a fool defending the phoney theory of EVOLUTION? Got the mark of the beast eh?

If there would be sapiens 500.000 years ago that would have used tools that means just like my original post entails: that we have been retarded for millions(500.000) of years.

If any sapien was evolved enough to use any form of tool, it would be smart enough to produce. If this sapien would have lived for 500.000 years that means it would of have reproduced billions of these sapiens in 500.000 years. But where is the evidence, really? A 500.000 year old shell?

baloney!

writing

see air conditioners dehumidify.

before air conditioners you'd see how humidity destroys everything, but especially paper in a few mere years.

only the desert would have things like papyrus or books preserved for long periods of time, centuries even.

during ice age you would have had world wide high humidity. nothing would have been transferred across several generations. thus every generation would essentially be starting over, from scratch

You found a fossil, cool

Can you date it?
Can you source what animal it's from?

they have found "histories" embedded in single atoms.

Grasping at lies to uphold a 'theory' that bit the dust when DNA and what it is 'composed' of was discovered.
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There is not ONE KNOWN case of EVOLUTION today..no
historical fossils of one, not one.

Evolution = Adaptation


Even Darwin doubted his own theory and stated it was
JUST A THEORY that would only be proven by fossils and stated if none are found than it disproves it.


NONE HAVE BEEN FOUND.

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A shell which supposedly was used for a tool? LOL

Yeah, big advancement for 500.000 years

Why would you expect a person that doesn't believe in god to have any better knowledge of the functioning of the universe than anyone else? Atheists simply don't believe in a fanciful entity that supposedly exists even though there is no evidence. Atheists, more than believers, acknowledge the fact there are still some things mankind doesn't understand.

Maybe that's the time span it took (6000 years) -for people to finally find one another in farther regions of the planet. From there they go from being somewhat intelligent to very smart by ingesting new tool making methods, different and more efficient agriculture methods..kinda like the internet, but with people.. Idea sharing.

OP since you're here; what's your best guess as to how Satan achieved the feat of putting dinosaur bones in the depths of the earth in order to trick people?
It's something I've been having trouble fathoming as of late..

There are buildings in south america 12,000 years old. The pyramids are at least 8,000, probably older.

Interesting tidbit here, scientists and engineers agree if we decided to build the great pyramid tomorrow it would take hundreds of years with today's technology, IF it could be done at all. There's some doubt as to what country or group could amass the wealth and labor to do it.

I'm not an atheist and I believe in creator, but life on earth is billions of years old