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On My Heart For Some Time Now.... Controversial But Just Conjecture; We Won't KNOW Until We KNOW

 
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On My Heart For Some Time Now.... Controversial But Just Conjecture; We Won't KNOW Until We KNOW
To lay it out straight.... Do all human beings possess a Soul?


Pretty easy to argue with this, IF you're an atheist or agnostic; but what would be Your Point???

If Lester says, maybe you got no soul anyway; What's IT to you?

I mean, if you don't Believe In God, or can't Identify HIM from HIS Revealing Witnesses; your soul really don't matter to you, does it?



There's Scripture for this interpretation/conjecture.

Matthew 22:1-14 (which will cite below) Basically Says, From Jesus' OWN Parable, that The Purpose Of Christianity and The Gospel, and Christ's Redemption of man: IS To ANSWER Father-God's CALL and Abide In and With HIM, NOW & FOREVER!

Perhaps a bit more elaborated than Jesus' Witness there, but the whole parable is about those vassals The King invited to attend The Wedding Feast For HIS Son, and the vassals (those invited to be HIS Guests) spurn HIS Invitation and Ignore HIM and HIS Servants.

The concluding Witness in verse 14 is "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!"




Maybe at this moment in following along, you think: "Well, out of 8Billion people on Earth, (if we all have a Soul), only a 'few' would still be a great many..."

Yet, in an earlier Witness, (Matt 16:13-20) Jesus Asks HIS Apostles, whom HE overhears discussing what the townfolk are saying about HIM being Elijah or Moses returned: "WHO Do You Say I AM?"

ONLY Simon Barjona (Peter) KNOWS: "Thou Art The Christ! SON Of The Living God!"

Continuing on, Jesus Marvels that Peter KNOWS WHO HE IS and Says "Only The Father Could Have Put That KNOWLEDGE Upon his heart". (citation to follow in another post)...

Jesus Says, still in Matt 16: That THIS KNOWLEDGE is 'the rock' Upon Which I Build MY Church!"

This KNOWLEDGE, (KNOWING WHO HE IS), Was Given To Each Who Has IT BY HIS Father...



So....

If God The Father didn't ENABLE YOU To KNOW WHO Jesus IS, what do you need a Soul for? Would Father have even Given you one????


Why do the heathen rage?

Why does Scripture Witness the "world" rejoicing for days and giving gifts once the Two Witnesses lie dead on that street in Jerusalem?



What matters is not "why" my conjecture May Be True...
What matters is YOU, (IF you Claim Christ as a Believer).

There's even more to establish this perspective...

Jesus Witnesses in Matt 13:11-15 In Answer to HIS Disciples question "Why do you always teach using parables? v.10)

HIS Witness IS that HE Uses The Parable in order that those who seek with their intellect rather than their heart might NOT Understand. "Lest they be converted and I Should Have To Heal them".

Who Knows what God Has Planned for those who would not Answer HIS Call???

Up To YOU to Choose-Elect To Trust HIM Fully with all you are and all you ever can be, and Come Unto HIM in surrender...


Our lives are a Gift From The Father.
Your heart either Hears and KNOWS HIS Call, or it doesn't.

Does it matter how you live your life, if you won't Answer Father's Call? Not really...

Jesus Witnesses many times that Christians have expectations (made from reliance upon self) which God will NOT meet...


What's the purpose of your having a Soul if you can't Trust God Fully and Completely; and also Tell HIM So???


The carnal-heart (or "stony heart" per Ezekiel 36:26) Is a liar. ONLY Father Can Deliver Us from it's deceit and delusions.

Jesus Witnesses in John 3:7 "Marvel not that I Say unto you; Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" and in John 14:6 "... No man Cometh Unto The Father but BY ME!"


So....

If it hasn't ever been Told To You Plainly: If you Claim and Love Christ Jesus, KNOW WHO HE IS; then IT IS Because Father Has Called You to Abide With HIM...

But YOU Have To Come Unto HIM and make your offering. Giving HIM ALL You ARE: good and bad, surrendering self and self-will to Live With and Through HIM.

Or, you don't....



All you think you understand and know is colored by your carnal-heart.

Only By Coming Unto The Father can we Be Born-Again and Delivered from our carnality and self-willed lives.

Only Through The Father are we Enabled to KNOW and DO HIS Will.


Living IN and Through HIS Will IS HIS Desire For Us.

Until you've Been Born-Again, nothing else in your life matters.


Scriptures to follow...
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Matthew 22

1. And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2. The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,


3. And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6. And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


8. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

11. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12. And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

14. For many are called, but few are chosen.


Pretty much, the above citation is Jesus' Witness of what Christianity Is All About...

The Wedding Garment which 'friend' does not possess is Your Born-Again Heart...

"Friend" is Rejected. Put out into the darkness because he/she was crasher... There's another "crasher" citation in Luke 13:22-28. Different Witness, but Jesus Cites Father's Rejection in the same fashion.

This Witness is very straightfoward as to those who spurned The King's Invitation and how Other Guests were then sought and found...



Here's the Matt 16 citation where Jesus Witnesses that ONLY HIS Father Puts KNOWLEDGE OF WHO HE IS On Our Heart...
13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14. And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16. And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
20. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.


KNOWING WHO Jesus IS.... THIS Is YOUR Invitation From Father-God.
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I do believe that some are born without souls. Empty vessels given unto evil.
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To put Jesus early Witness into perspective, let's review John 3:1-17, where Nicodemus, a pharisee comes to Jesus because he 'knows' Jesus is Of The Father....

1. There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?


10. Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?


13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:


15. That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


Three Times Jesus Witnesses "Ye MUST Be Born-Again".
Theree Times (15-17) HE Witnesses the conditional aspect of God's Salvation.

Nicodemus does NOT Know Ezekiel 36:26-27
The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Jesus Says to Nic: "Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?"


Nic continued to observe Jesus and even paid for HIS Tomb and burial, but never "Got IT"...
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Does it matter to me whether the rest of the world has a Soul?

Not at all... You see, God's Will IS Always and Entirely PERFECT!

HE Has Given me more than everything I could have even hoped would exist... It's like all I could imagine wanting in life was on Jay's Tray (Let's Make A Deal) which I settled for (all I could ask for), but then God Showed me the things behind the curtain that were endless and infinite...

I never asked for anything, just that HE Accept me as the wretch and sinner I Knew I Was.


There's more verses that can be posted.

Many will argue that The Gospel hasn't been preached all over the world; but it has and for over 100years.


I was Given To Know that the Strait Gate had closed, almost 15yrs ago.

My witnessing has, since April 10, 2004 been aimed at Christians... Those who Claim HIM but never took action...


Faith without works is dead...
The 'works' this verse verse refers to is making your Leap Of Faith; Taking Action, ANSWERING FAther's CAll..


Matthew 7:21-23 is The Concise Witness of Rejection...
Christ isn't Witnessing about "the world"...
Look at verse 22, those pleading for entry into Heaven, did Miracles, Prophesied, and Cast-Out demons In HIS Name!
In verse 21 though, HE Says HE ONLY KNOWS those "Who DO The Will Of MY Father"

. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Referring back to Ezekiel 36:27... Only BY Being Born-Again are we Enabled to KNOW and DO Father's Will.

The verse 22 miracle-doing Christians never Came Unto The Father... They remained "workers of iniquity" meaning self-willed. They weren't Born-Again...


But, are you? Born-Again? Do you Hear/See The Gospel with your heart???
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I do believe that some are born without souls. Empty vessels given unto evil.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Great to see you!

Maybe not to do evil, per se; but just Not Called.

We will KNOW one day... Christ's 1000yr reign will be enough time for a new way or whatever Father Has Planned.

Living The Born-Again Life has shown me I have no need for anxiety or fear, much less worry. God's Will IS Always Perfect!
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I mentioned Matt 13:11-15...

Jesus has just Given the parable of The Sower

10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?


11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed;

lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
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On My Heart For Some Time Now.... Controversial But Just Conjecture; We Won't KNOW Until We KNOW

I agree, I won't know what awaits me until I die. They keep saying "We see you burning in Hell", but I won't know until I die.

I just hate how they, them Hotep folk, was hanging wit me steady telling me, "Please kill Me right now" and a lot of times when they say that it's like they gagging in reaction to something they seeing as well.

What's crazy about this WHOLE entire thing, is it sort of "escalated". Like we didn't start off housed together when this started back in 2014, this just slowly started to escalate slowly...

I can never get the straight of anything cuz of so many lies. When I inquire or want to get any information out of them, I am simply insulted or referred back to a phony trumped up charge based off of thoughts.

They said that generating E was going to do something, when I asked them what it would do, they talked to me like I was a fucking idiot. Then when I was trying to do different electricity experiments...they were having all types of fits when they themselves don't appear to have any type of "book" intelligence. What they have far more than intelligence is strength in numbers and divinity.

Most of the ones that was wit me last week left, but they were the ones who would call me a "Stupid Bitch". Dealing wit them is straight exhausting.





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