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Nonfeminazi
(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the Facebook post OP is speaking of. Lynne Patton is feeling heartbroken. January 18 · Dear Haters: Since so many of you are asking, I am only going to say this ONCE, so please pay attention before any of you start breaking out the champagne: 1) I will be the first to concede that IF actual physical evidence exists that the President directly instructed Cohen to lie to Congress then, yes, it would be the ONLY accusation made against POTUS over the past three years that would worry me. Otherwise, it remains the word of one person over another with ZERO evidence. Period. One of whom is going to jail for perjury & fraud. 2) More notably, it should be known that Donald Trump does not use email and never has. Nor (up until his inauguration at least) does he text. Therefore, the likelihood of some “smoking gun” email or text is slim to none. It should also be known that any/all visitors to the West Wing must check their cell phones upon entry in a secure locker before meeting with the President. Omarosa was not a visitor. 3) Many of you may already know that I considered Michael Cohen to be one of my very best friends. Countless people can confirm that we were virtually inseparable during my employment at Trump - and that he is, single-handedly - responsible for introducing me to the Trump family and effectively changing my entire life. I would be lying if I didn’t admit that my heart still breaks for him and for his family, with whom I had grown extremely close. 4) What many of you may not be aware of is the fact that I can personally confirm that the ONLY reason Michael Cohen “turned on” the President of the United States is because Mueller threatened to throw his wife in jail for up to 30 years. Period. She is the co-guarantor of a $20M personal loan that Mueller discovered Michael secured back in 2015 by falsely inflating the value of his taxi medallions - effectively making her part & parcel to the federal charge of “Making False Statements to a Financial Institution,” to which Cohen ultimately plead guilty. This is also the reason why Cohen’s longtime taxi medallion partner, Evgeny “Gene” Freidman, was granted immunity. 5) Michael Cohen also told me (after they raided his apartment) that the reason why he elected to pay Stormy Daniels $130,000 by using his home equity loan - effectively committing bank fraud - instead of easily using the over $5M+ cash he has sitting in various stateside bank accounts is because his wife controls their finances and he simply did not want her to notice the missing money, as many husbands wouldn’t considering to whom it went. Period. Moreover, he confessed to me that he never imagined in a million years that Donald Trump would actually win the Presidency and that the misappropriation of his home equity loan would ever be exposed, since thousands of Americans misuse this type line of credit to pay for colleges, boats, cars and vacations every single day. 6) By Cohen’s own admission, Trump ceased all interest and communication in constructing Trump Tower Moscow in June 2016. Over a month before officially being declared the Republican nominee for President. To that end, it is NOT ILLEGAL for him to explore - nor deny - any “for profit” construction projects during the campaign, as he was still a civilian global real estate mogul. 7) BuzzFeed, themselves, officially admitted on CNN this morning that they have yet to independently confirm or see ANY evidence that corroborates their story. 8.) Most significantly, Mueller refused to recommend any leniency, nor lack of jail time (as he did for Michael Flynn), for Michael Cohen when he was sentenced to 3+ years in federal prison just last month. This would lead most legal experts to reasonably conclude that the Special Counsel deems information gleaned from Michael Cohen of little consequence or contribution. 9) Lastly, given that Michael Cohen is barred from discussing the Russian investigation when he testifies before the House Oversight Committee, it’s safe to conclude that his testimony on February 7th will effectively amount to nothing more than political theater and partisan fodder for late night hosts simply to embarrass a sitting President over past behavior he may or may not have engaged in as a private citizen. 10) In closing, Michael Cohen always wanted to be famous. Sadly, he has gotten his wish. I personally stopped communicating with Michael when it became known in May 2018 that he was defrauding various companies (from a Korean defense firm to a global pharmaceutical company) for millions of dollars by falsely claiming he could leverage his connection with the President to their favor. To me, that was the moment I knew our character, principles & loyalty to one another had finally diverged. Much like the moment I ultimately realized that Omarosa Manigault Newman was lying to me about the existence of an “N-word” tape. Like Cohen, it is no secret that Omarosa was one of my of very best friends. She and I developed the closest relationship out of everyone during the campaign, transition and newfound Administration. From sharing hotel rooms to texting and speaking up to 80 times per day, I considered her to be like a sister. Michael Cohen was like my family. While both of them often declared their loyalty to this President and his family in public, I realize now that neither of them FULLY understood the definition. You don’t give loyalty to get loyalty in return. You do it simply because it’s the right thing to do. I am not a rich person. Nor am I poor. People who have known the Trump family for less than a year are now signing multi-million dollar book deals. I have known them for 10. I know what’s written in their pre-nups & in their wills. I know what they think of certain people, the details of their family lives - good or bad. I know their medical histories & even the passcodes to their emails, credit cards, computers and homes. NOT ONCE has it EVER crossed my mind to share that information in exchange for monetary gain. Not even in the multiple millions. Nor will it ever. Feel free to call me either the dumbest loyalist on the face of the earth, or the poorest member of their inner circle. I, on the other hand, simply choose to call myself a NORMAL FRIEND. Normally I would take fakebook posts claiming to know someone coming from some unknown with a grain of salt. HOWEVER, this is the same woman who was standing behind Meadows today during Cohens testimony. Look at her her in the Hill article I posted and then check out the hearing video when the that idiot muslim congress critter accused Meadows of being racist. Same woman. This girl is legit. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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User ID: 77237948 United States 02/27/2019 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #5...I thought the bank/lender requires both the husband & wife to sign off on home equity/mortgage loans. It's protection against the very thing he uses as an excuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18455166 Nope. Can I Get a Home Equity Loan Without a Spouse's Signature? ... While you can get a home equity loan without your spouse as a co-borrower, you can't get it without his consent. Even if his name isn't on the deed, if the property used as collateral is your marital residence, the spouse must agree to the loan. |
Nonfeminazi
(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. I have been wondering how the man could be so stupid as to call Trump a racist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53651439 It did seem like he is pressured. I was thinking his Masonic masters called in a do or die type of favor. But this works just as good. We need to spread this far and wide. Use your emails and send the links to your friends. They have to know why Cohen did what he did and also who this woman is and why the muslim called her a prop and Meadows a racist. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
Nonfeminazi
(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the Facebook post OP is speaking of. Lynne Patton is feeling heartbroken. January 18 · Dear Haters: Since so many of you are asking, I am only going to say this ONCE, so please pay attention before any of you start breaking out the champagne: 1) I will be the first to concede that IF actual physical evidence exists that the President directly instructed Cohen to lie to Congress then, yes, it would be the ONLY accusation made against POTUS over the past three years that would worry me. Otherwise, it remains the word of one person over another with ZERO evidence. Period. One of whom is going to jail for perjury & fraud. 2) More notably, it should be known that Donald Trump does not use email and never has. Nor (up until his inauguration at least) does he text. Therefore, the likelihood of some “smoking gun” email or text is slim to none. It should also be known that any/all visitors to the West Wing must check their cell phones upon entry in a secure locker before meeting with the President. Omarosa was not a visitor. 3) Many of you may already know that I considered Michael Cohen to be one of my very best friends. Countless people can confirm that we were virtually inseparable during my employment at Trump - and that he is, single-handedly - responsible for introducing me to the Trump family and effectively changing my entire life. I would be lying if I didn’t admit that my heart still breaks for him and for his family, with whom I had grown extremely close. 4) What many of you may not be aware of is the fact that I can personally confirm that the ONLY reason Michael Cohen “turned on” the President of the United States is because Mueller threatened to throw his wife in jail for up to 30 years. Period. She is the co-guarantor of a $20M personal loan that Mueller discovered Michael secured back in 2015 by falsely inflating the value of his taxi medallions - effectively making her part & parcel to the federal charge of “Making False Statements to a Financial Institution,” to which Cohen ultimately plead guilty. This is also the reason why Cohen’s longtime taxi medallion partner, Evgeny “Gene” Freidman, was granted immunity. 5) Michael Cohen also told me (after they raided his apartment) that the reason why he elected to pay Stormy Daniels $130,000 by using his home equity loan - effectively committing bank fraud - instead of easily using the over $5M+ cash he has sitting in various stateside bank accounts is because his wife controls their finances and he simply did not want her to notice the missing money, as many husbands wouldn’t considering to whom it went. Period. Moreover, he confessed to me that he never imagined in a million years that Donald Trump would actually win the Presidency and that the misappropriation of his home equity loan would ever be exposed, since thousands of Americans misuse this type line of credit to pay for colleges, boats, cars and vacations every single day. 6) By Cohen’s own admission, Trump ceased all interest and communication in constructing Trump Tower Moscow in June 2016. Over a month before officially being declared the Republican nominee for President. To that end, it is NOT ILLEGAL for him to explore - nor deny - any “for profit” construction projects during the campaign, as he was still a civilian global real estate mogul. 7) BuzzFeed, themselves, officially admitted on CNN this morning that they have yet to independently confirm or see ANY evidence that corroborates their story. 8.) Most significantly, Mueller refused to recommend any leniency, nor lack of jail time (as he did for Michael Flynn), for Michael Cohen when he was sentenced to 3+ years in federal prison just last month. This would lead most legal experts to reasonably conclude that the Special Counsel deems information gleaned from Michael Cohen of little consequence or contribution. 9) Lastly, given that Michael Cohen is barred from discussing the Russian investigation when he testifies before the House Oversight Committee, it’s safe to conclude that his testimony on February 7th will effectively amount to nothing more than political theater and partisan fodder for late night hosts simply to embarrass a sitting President over past behavior he may or may not have engaged in as a private citizen. 10) In closing, Michael Cohen always wanted to be famous. Sadly, he has gotten his wish. I personally stopped communicating with Michael when it became known in May 2018 that he was defrauding various companies (from a Korean defense firm to a global pharmaceutical company) for millions of dollars by falsely claiming he could leverage his connection with the President to their favor. To me, that was the moment I knew our character, principles & loyalty to one another had finally diverged. Much like the moment I ultimately realized that Omarosa Manigault Newman was lying to me about the existence of an “N-word” tape. Like Cohen, it is no secret that Omarosa was one of my of very best friends. She and I developed the closest relationship out of everyone during the campaign, transition and newfound Administration. From sharing hotel rooms to texting and speaking up to 80 times per day, I considered her to be like a sister. Michael Cohen was like my family. While both of them often declared their loyalty to this President and his family in public, I realize now that neither of them FULLY understood the definition. You don’t give loyalty to get loyalty in return. You do it simply because it’s the right thing to do. I am not a rich person. Nor am I poor. People who have known the Trump family for less than a year are now signing multi-million dollar book deals. I have known them for 10. I know what’s written in their pre-nups & in their wills. I know what they think of certain people, the details of their family lives - good or bad. I know their medical histories & even the passcodes to their emails, credit cards, computers and homes. NOT ONCE has it EVER crossed my mind to share that information in exchange for monetary gain. Not even in the multiple millions. Nor will it ever. Feel free to call me either the dumbest loyalist on the face of the earth, or the poorest member of their inner circle. I, on the other hand, simply choose to call myself a NORMAL FRIEND. #5...I thought the bank/lender requires both the husband & wife to sign off on home equity/mortgage loans. It's protection against the very thing he uses as an excuse. Umm...my experience with that is no they don't. I know someone who got one with just their name (they were the only one responsible for the loan) even though there were two names on the deed. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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User ID: 76863067 United States 02/27/2019 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Post that on Mark Meadows twitter please Quoting: Jake 4) What many of you may not be aware of is the fact that I can personally confirm that the ONLY reason Michael Cohen “turned on” the President of the United States is because Mueller threatened to throw his wife in jail for up to 30 years. Period. She is the co-guarantor of a $20M personal loan that Mueller discovered Michael secured back in 2015 by falsely inflating the value of his taxi medallions - effectively making her part & parcel to the federal charge of “Making False Statements to a Financial Institution,” to which Cohen ultimately plead guilty. This is also the reason why Cohen’s longtime taxi medallion partner, Evgeny “Gene” Freidman, was granted immunity. This needs to go viral!! Blackmail, entrapment, just plain evil! This is not what "special council" is to be |
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User ID: 75950402 United States 02/27/2019 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The assholes will probably subpoena here now. They just want to hurt anyone attached to Trump in any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18455166 The one female dem was asking Cohen for names so they could haul them in This will go on through the election..... They made fools of themselves today, Cohen almost appeared to be on the Republican side with a majority of his answers ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #5...I thought the bank/lender requires both the husband & wife to sign off on home equity/mortgage loans. It's protection against the very thing he uses as an excuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18455166 Nope. Can I Get a Home Equity Loan Without a Spouse's Signature? ... While you can get a home equity loan without your spouse as a co-borrower, you can't get it without his consent. Even if his name isn't on the deed, if the property used as collateral is your marital residence, the spouse must agree to the loan. Ummm...maybe Cohen has more than one property. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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User ID: 77147464 United States 02/27/2019 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out this woman's facebook post. She explains why Cohen flipped and is lying his ass off about Trump. Check out #4 of the post Quoting: Nonfeminazi [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] And now look at this: [link to thehill.com (secure)] And do you guys recognize her? She is the same woman who was standing behind Meadows when than hussy muslim congresswoman accused Meadows of racism and using her as a prop! Lynne Patton. Can we put a magnifying glass on Mueller, I mean the man was director of the FBI during 9/11 that fact alone means he is a bad actor that needs a closer look at.... I think he was put in by deep state to be gatekeeper on their behalf.....Trump was such a wild card and TPTB were afraid of him after the ruckus he made with Obamas certificate....lhe might be guarding the pantry for the deep state.... Regardless Mueller your days will end badly This is why there are some that think he's actually part of the "plan" Trump and the White Hats have that dirt on him, and he was given the choice - do the right thing, or we bury you. |
Nonfeminazi
(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there's that.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 ...and maybe Trump used and abused him and Cohen ain't takin all the heat Kinda unfolding like a Mafia case.. the only using and abusing was done by Muller. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76996739 United States 02/27/2019 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #5...I thought the bank/lender requires both the husband & wife to sign off on home equity/mortgage loans. It's protection against the very thing he uses as an excuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18455166 Nope. Can I Get a Home Equity Loan Without a Spouse's Signature? ... While you can get a home equity loan without your spouse as a co-borrower, you can't get it without his consent. Even if his name isn't on the deed, if the property used as collateral is your marital residence, the spouse must agree to the loan. I imagine it was a Home Equity Line of Credit. It would require his wife's signature to get the line of credit, but not to make withdrawals. So they probably had an existing HELOC and he simply went into the bank one day and took out the $10k. Once the HELOC is opened, then it sits there like a credit card waiting until you need to use it. You don't need both signatures on a joint credit card purchase. You only need the initial signature when you get the credit card. After that, either can do all the spending they want. Same for HELOCs. |
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User ID: 77237948 United States 02/27/2019 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #5...I thought the bank/lender requires both the husband & wife to sign off on home equity/mortgage loans. It's protection against the very thing he uses as an excuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18455166 Nope. Can I Get a Home Equity Loan Without a Spouse's Signature? ... While you can get a home equity loan without your spouse as a co-borrower, you can't get it without his consent. Even if his name isn't on the deed, if the property used as collateral is your marital residence, the spouse must agree to the loan. I imagine it was a Home Equity Line of Credit. It would require his wife's signature to get the line of credit, but not to make withdrawals. So they probably had an existing HELOC and he simply went into the bank one day and took out the $10k. Once the HELOC is opened, then it sits there like a credit card waiting until you need to use it. You don't need both signatures on a joint credit card purchase. You only need the initial signature when you get the credit card. After that, either can do all the spending they want. Same for HELOCs. well after all he was a lawyer. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18455166 United States 02/27/2019 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there's that.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 ...and maybe Trump used and abused him and Cohen ain't takin all the heat Kinda unfolding like a Mafia case.. the only using and abusing was done by Muller. link? There's a 69 year old man sitting in a prison cell, solitary confinement over a fucking process crime. Look that up for starts and but for the grace of God while you're at it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76996739 United States 02/27/2019 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The one thing that smells really funny about this is her stating that using his HELOC for this was bank fraud and that many Americans misues their HELOCs. That's false. HELOCs CAN be used for anything. Banks even now give people credit cards tied to their HELOCs to be used anywhere Visa or MC are accepted. So not sure at all what that has to do with bank fraud. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74740437 United States 02/27/2019 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When your wife is threatened with 20 years of prison, you will say and agree to anything to save her. Quoting: Nonfeminazi We all know the Dems are not going to indict Cohen for slandering Trump at the hearing today despite their threats to him to "tell the truth". Cohen admitted or let it slip today in the hearing he had been in meetings with Schiff and Cummings prior to his testimony. I'm sure that was made clear to him and what he needed to say. How is that not a crime? Leading the witness or tampering with the witness? because he is no longer a witness - he is a convicted felon awaiting incarceration |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74740437 United States 02/27/2019 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The one thing that smells really funny about this is her stating that using his HELOC for this was bank fraud and that many Americans misues their HELOCs. That's false. HELOCs CAN be used for anything. Banks even now give people credit cards tied to their HELOCs to be used anywhere Visa or MC are accepted. So not sure at all what that has to do with bank fraud. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76996739 i ditto that |
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(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there's that.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 ...and maybe Trump used and abused him and Cohen ain't takin all the heat Kinda unfolding like a Mafia case.. the only using and abusing was done by Muller. link? I provided it in my first post. You can also check out Corsi's lawsuit against Muller. He alleges the same. Muller is going after peoples families to get them to lie and speak untruths. Now. Where is your link? One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
Nonfeminazi
(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The one thing that smells really funny about this is her stating that using his HELOC for this was bank fraud and that many Americans misues their HELOCs. That's false. HELOCs CAN be used for anything. Banks even now give people credit cards tied to their HELOCs to be used anywhere Visa or MC are accepted. So not sure at all what that has to do with bank fraud. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76996739 Idk. Perhaps he lied to the bank about the use of the loan. I've never had one, but I imagine there is a line on the application for "use". One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 76994964 United States 02/27/2019 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only knows him but in her January post she said they were extremely close friends. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When your wife is threatened with 20 years of prison, you will say and agree to anything to save her. Quoting: Nonfeminazi We all know the Dems are not going to indict Cohen for slandering Trump at the hearing today despite their threats to him to "tell the truth". Cohen admitted or let it slip today in the hearing he had been in meetings with Schiff and Cummings prior to his testimony. I'm sure that was made clear to him and what he needed to say. How is that not a crime? Leading the witness or tampering with the witness? because he is no longer a witness - he is a convicted felon awaiting incarceration Well, if that's the case, then Rep Gaetz wouldn't be having his tweet looked at by the Florida Bar would he? One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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(OP) User ID: 41826110 United States 02/27/2019 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I find interesting...and predictable...in facebook post #4 is that Cohen and his wife got in trouble because Cohen INFLATED THE VALUE OF HIS TAXI MEDALLIONS. Did you see that? INFLATED THE VALUE. Now where did we hear that today? Oh yeah! Cohen accused Trump of INFLATING HIS FINANCIAL PAPERS. Imagine that. A Dem (what Cohen was) accusing someone of WHAT HE IS GUILTY OF. And let's not forget Cohen was coached by Lanny, Hillary's lawyer, last night. Imagine that. One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States 02/27/2019 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there's that.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 ...and maybe Trump used and abused him and Cohen ain't takin all the heat Kinda unfolding like a Mafia case.. the only using and abusing was done by Muller. link? I provided it in my first post. You can also check out Corsi's lawsuit against Muller. He alleges the same. Muller is going after peoples families to get them to lie and speak untruths. Now. Where is your link? FB and The Hill Now you guys are media believers?? |