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Stossel: Academic Hoax (video)

 
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"Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain

it's all mental masturbation.

Seeing through the game isn't winning the game !

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
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Thanks so very much for the pin !

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"Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain

it's all mental masturbation.

Seeing through the game isn't winning the game !

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
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How pathetic. There's no way in hell I'd let my kid anywhere near that crap.
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Last I heard, Boghossian is now under investigation by his university, on the basis that performing this hoax amounts to "unauthorized human experimentation" on the journal editors and reviewers.
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They're going to crucify these guys.
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Last I heard, Boghossian is now under investigation by his university, on the basis that performing this hoax amounts to "unauthorized human experimentation" on the journal editors and reviewers.
[link to www.insidehighered.com (secure)]

They're going to crucify these guys.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


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"Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain

it's all mental masturbation.

Seeing through the game isn't winning the game !

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Stossel: Academic Hoax (video)
Blowback Against a Hoax

Author of a recent academic scam faces disciplinary action by Portland State, for failing to alert his research review board before hoodwinking journal editors with outrageous articles. Many say he's guilty of bad form, but did he commit misconduct?


Video from article... (Thanks Astro)

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Last Edited by Forever.the.Student on 03/12/2019 11:53 AM
"Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain

it's all mental masturbation.

Seeing through the game isn't winning the game !

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
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They exposed them, of course they will go after them. But at least it is all published now so people have seen it.
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The academics new clothes are off

And they're running around bare-assed, pointing fingers
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yup, peer review same thing, "circle jerk" between the ones that tell you what is what with science ect
but they ignore the real science
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 Quoting: Forever.the.Student


Science, research, and published studies are all shit nowadays.

Nearly the large majority of it is not empirical at all.



In my final year of university studies I was hired part time at a toxicology lab at the university. They were doing research on the effect of benzene in fetal development (on rats and mice). The study was funded by several of the tobacco giants in Canada.

When the study was complete, the funding sources did not like the results of the study (it showed horrible defects and increased cancer rates in the mothers and the fetuses). So the principal investigator was told to scrap it and redo it all and to "make sure it was done correctly" (aka in favour of the big tobacco funders). The new study secretly skewed the data and "showed" no cause of concern. And it was published in numerous journals.


So yeah, ever since then I knew never to trust any piece of science from that point on.
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Last I heard, Boghossian is now under investigation by his university, on the basis that performing this hoax amounts to "unauthorized human experimentation" on the journal editors and reviewers.
[link to www.insidehighered.com (secure)]

They're going to crucify these guys.
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They shouldnt worry. They'll be seen as heroes by the normal public.

Only leftists, marxists, and mentally unstable people will be the ones who hate them.
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This is where Bogossian can write a book and crucify these idiots while making a mint. How dare they expose these departments for the absolute farce they are. That could potentially cost colleges billions of $ in lost revenue.

Feminist studies
Gender studies
Race studies
Intersectionality studies

= complete garbage.

Leftist agitprop brainwashing techniques to create new Marxist drones. That's what you college tuition buys you these days.
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Just for fun I got a BA in my 30's, and I was amazed at the total bullshit that goes on in universities, and the kids just eat it up because they don't know any better.

I had been married, worked a few jobs, and owned a business.

I did a lot of arguing with the professors, and the kids looked bewildered, and completely confused. Those fucking idiots (professors), had never been out of academia.

It should be against the law for anyone to teach that has never worked professionally in their given field.

Academia is a total joke.
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Not surprised in the least.

EVERYTHING is about "The Agenda"(TM).
Facts and brains must be left at the door.
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Just for fun I got a BA in my 30's, and I was amazed at the total bullshit that goes on in universities, and the kids just eat it up because they don't know any better.

I had been married, worked a few jobs, and owned a business.

I did a lot of arguing with the professors, and the kids looked bewildered, and completely confused. Those fucking idiots (professors), had never been out of academia.

It should be against the law for anyone to teach that has never worked professionally in their given field.

Academia is a total joke.
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And thats the problem with the school system.

A person I went to high school with ended up being a teacher in high school.

He teaches a business class. He has never once in his life operated any business whatsoever.
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Just for fun I got a BA in my 30's, and I was amazed at the total bullshit that goes on in universities, and the kids just eat it up because they don't know any better.

I had been married, worked a few jobs, and owned a business.

I did a lot of arguing with the professors, and the kids looked bewildered, and completely confused. Those fucking idiots (professors), had never been out of academia.

It should be against the law for anyone to teach that has never worked professionally in their given field.

Academia is a total joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76202283


Those who can't do usually end up teaching.
Lots of truth to that statement.
Finding good teachers is a must for anyone serious about learning.

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Just for fun I got a BA in my 30's, and I was amazed at the total bullshit that goes on in universities, and the kids just eat it up because they don't know any better.

I had been married, worked a few jobs, and owned a business.

I did a lot of arguing with the professors, and the kids looked bewildered, and completely confused. Those fucking idiots (professors), had never been out of academia.

It should be against the law for anyone to teach that has never worked professionally in their given field.

Academia is a total joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76202283


Those who can't do usually end up teaching.
Lots of truth to that statement.
Finding good teachers is a must for anyone serious about learning.
 Quoting: FlashBuzzkill


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