Cardinal George Pell gets six years in prison for sexually assaulting choirboys

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wonder if he's gonna get defrocked or if he will be the jail cardinal?

How many other CARDINALS around the world are equally guilty ... but haven't been charged with crimes?

Highly doubtful EX-Cardinal Pell is the only rotten apple in the bag.

does anyone think he only molested these two ?

Not even 4 years on good behavior. He should have gotten a life sentence for each child he harmed and be doing a 500 year sentence.

Or death.

Where is the proof?

Show me the photos?

Oh someone said it happened therefore it did?

Oh... i see

In Rome, George Pell's conviction is the moment the global clergy abuse scandal truly arrived on the Vatican's doorstep.

Pell is the most senior member of the Catholic Church to be found guilty of child sexual abuse.

In many ways, his conviction is uncharted territory for the Vatican.

While another high-profile cardinal, Theodore McCarrick, was just defrocked and publicly demoted over the sexual abuse of minors, in that case, there were no criminal proceedings.

Joshua McElwee, Vatican correspondent at National Catholic Reporter, said that was a distinct possibility.

"It's the first time it's happened to a Vatican official and certainly it puts the Pope under a lot of scrutiny as to how he handles this case going forward," he said.

For now, the Catholic Church won't publicly discuss stripping Cardinal Pell of his title, duties and privileges until appeal proceedings in Melbourne are over.

But the Holy See has revealed that Pope Francis has already placed temporary restrictions on the 77-year-old in 2017, at the request of the Church in Australia.

He has been removed from public ministry and ordered not to have any contact with children.

Vatican spokesman Alessandro Gisotti described the verdict as "painful", adding that it had "shocked many people".

The Pope can expel men from the priesthood accused of crimes within the church and society — a process known as being "defrocked".

A precedent was set this month after McCarrick was found guilty of "solicitation in the Sacrament of Confession, and sins against the Sixth Commandment with minors and with adults".

Theodore McCarrick has been expelled from the Roman Catholic priesthood after being found guilty of sexual crimes against minors and adults.

The 88-year-old became the first cardinal to be defrocked over sexual assault allegations, and the decision could have ramifications for Cardinal Pell.

McCarrick was referred to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), one of the jurisdictions within the Vatican with the power to investigate cases of sexual abuse by the clergy.

The CDF ordered that McCarrick be defrocked or "dismissed from the clerical state" — a ruling upheld by Pope Francis.

He is not allowed to perform sacraments or hear confessions or celebrate mass, and the punishment was lauded by survivors of abuse.

The Catholic Church also no longer has any responsibility to provide McCarrick with housing, medical care or financial benefits.

However, even priests who are defrocked by the church remain priests, according to Catholic belief.

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nowhere near enough

There were 84 seperate submissions to enquiry claiming his direct involvement in abuse cases. These two could not be quashed.

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Fuckin Salesian’s all come from the west..

Cardinal George Pell, ordained in '66, receives 6-years in prison on 6-year anny. of Pope Francis

i see still trusting MSM

Cardinal Rock Spider?

He could easily die in prison. There was a guy called Carl Williams who killed a bunch of Morans and got killed in maximum security prison in Melbourne:

"Carl Anthony Williams (13 October 1970[2] – 19 April 2010) was an Australian convicted murderer and drug trafficker from Melbourne, Victoria. He was the central figure in the Melbourne gangland killings as well as its final victim.

He was sentenced to life imprisonment with a non-parole period of 35 years for ordering the murders of three people and conspiracy to murder a fourth (which was unsuccessful).[2][3] On 4 April 2010, while incarcerated at HM Prison Barwon, Williams was beaten to death with the stem of an exercise bike by another inmate, Matthew Charles Johnson.[4]

Williams enlisted the help of others willing to perform the contract killings in exchange for large payments of cash. At the time of his death, he was in the maximum security Acacia unit of HM Prison Barwon near Geelong.[2] Williams would have been 71 before he was eligible for parole. "

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Zach is my numbers guy

Catholic officials are demanding an apology from "Saturday Night Live" after Pete Davidson compared the church's sex abuse scandals to the allegations against R. Kelly. His comments were part of a "Weekend Update" skit on Saturday.

"This guy is a monster and he should go to jail forever," Davidson said about Kelly. "But, if you support the Catholic church, isn't that, like, the same thing as being an R. Kelly fan? I don't really see the difference, only, like, one's music is significantly better."

The Diocese of Brooklyn released a statement about the episode Monday, calling for an "immediate public apology" from NBC and "SNL" for the "disgraceful and offensive" skit.

Diocese officials criticized Davidson for making light of sexual abuse scandals that have plagued the church for years. "The clergy sex abuse crisis is shameful, and no one should ever get a laugh at the expense of the victims who have suffered irreparably," the statement said.

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As a Catholic, I have been folowing the story. I truly believe Cardinal Pell to be innocent. He was intially run out of the Vatican because as secretary of the Economy, he attempted financial reform of the money laundering and theft he discovered in the Vatican finances. He was then thrown to the wolves in Australia who have hated his conservatism for decades. His first trial ended in a mistrial with 10-2 voting for acquittal. One of his two accusers is dead, and admitted to his mother on his death bed, that no cleric had abused him. The whole trial was a joke and travesty.

Folowing article explains the farce of the Australian prosecution:

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have to wait and see if he wins his appeal then. it seems unlikely that him getting run out of the vatican would have anything to do with being found guilty of sex crimes in melbourne.

The evil and corrupt men of the Vatican are in total alliance with the globalists, and NWO of multiple national governments. They were hoping for Pell's conviction last year. With the Sex abuse crisis blowing up in Pope Francis' face in the last couple of weeks, it backfired on them and Pell's conviction has now tainted them at the wrong time in a way it wouldn't have a year ago.

hanging isn't good enough, boiled in oil while being flogged isn't good enough.

"The judge found that Pell did not have any diminished mental capacity but was a “lucid, intelligent man".

He found the attack to be “opportunistic” rather than planned but that made it perhaps worse as it demonstrated a “breathtakingly arrogant” view that as a cardinal he could get away with it.

But a judge must not just make sure in meticulous detail that the punishment fits the crime. Beyond that a judge is duty bound to make sure the punishment also fits the criminal.

With Pell, those factors are that he is clearly an old man in poor health, that he has no other criminal convictions, that he, according to the judge, is not a risk to others in the community, and that he obtained a number of statements from well-known people who told the court of the kind, benevolent man they knew.

Every day judges deal with human beings with all their frailties and often feel sympathy for offenders. So Kidd found that Pell was “an intelligent and hardworking man” whose fall from grace was “an awful state of affairs”.

Judges so often seem cool and aloof from the modern media world of glib outrage and hyperbole. But that’s because their job is one for serious and scholarly people. Every judge I have ever spoken to tells me they agonise over deciding the appropriate sentence – especially in serious criminal cases such as Pell’s.

Everybody trusts the criminal justice system to help make society safe. But the criminal law also allows the state to virtually destroy a person’s life – to put them alone, away from everything they have ever known, in a small cell for years, staring, as Oscar Wilde put it, at “that little tent of blue which prisoners call the sky”.

I think Judge Kidd got it absolutely right with the sentence. He has listened to all the evidence. He has been totally fair. And, more than that, he has laid out in exacting detail all his reasons. Those who disagree with him should be prepared to do the same.

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so its heads up for near term future then ? What doom do you think "they" will pull ?

yeah maybe its time to shut down the vatican

enough is enough... there is also a massive conspiracy

to obstruct justice

Defending pedos is not good for your health.

That's one 'snake head' in australia cut off.
Now they can go after the body, they of those within his own group, which has the same levels of competitive menace eand spite in any workplace....there are more.
If they haven't done anything wrong, they have nothing to fear.

They think this satisfies the public.Or will, and you'll all go back about your business...

Most of the government run 'facilities' are just as heinous in their historical abuses and dealing with those who could not defend themselves.

Let those children come forward.

***news flash local news****
an old man from a nursing home had to go to hospital because he had maggots living in his skull...

I would kill you if that was my relative...or my friend.

Don't for one second think, what runs this fucking country looks after people in the best possibly way...or you've been sold..a fucking lie.

Big men?
Big brothers?
Tough bitches ready to rumble?
Over-fucking-lords-of-justice? ggs? really?!
and all this was going on....? and you didn't fucking know?

where the fuck were you?!?!

but you know everything and anything that goes on....you watch and fucking listen to everything......how did you not know this was going on?

"He will have his chance to clear his name at appeal dates scheduled for June 5 and 6.

The 77-year old’s legal team has filed three grounds of appeal against the verdict.

One appeal lodged is that the verdict was “unreasonable” because it relied on the “word of one complainant alone.”

“The verdicts are unreasonable and cannot be supported, having regard to the evidence," the appeal reads.

"On the whole evidence, including unchallenged exculpatory evidence from more than 20 crown witnesses, it was not open to the jury to be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt on the word of the complainant alone.”

The second ground for appeal is that his defence was stopped from using a visual aid to represent that the allegations were impossible.

A final ground is that there was a “fundamental irregularity” that stopped him from entering a not-guilty-plea in front of the jury."


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In the end, he was just an elderly, grey-faced man in the dock.

Not a prince of the church, not a cardinal, but a man convicted of and sentenced for terrible crimes against children.

A man who once flew first class will celebrate his 78th birthday in prison, and at the very least, his 79th, 80th and 81st.

A large part of it will be in protective custody because this man is and remains a lightning rod for discontent in the Australian community and, as a psychiatrist who specialises in child sexual abuse once told me, prisons are full of victims of these crimes.

George Pell's reaction to receiving his sentence was only seen by those in the courtroom — the world was watching but the broadcast stayed steadily on County Court Chief Judge Peter Kidd.

We saw a man in a beige jacket and black shirt who seemed to have aged years in a matter of weeks.

His clerical collar and his Order of Australia pin were conspicuously absent.

His face was impassive, his mouth in a firmly pressed straight line, throughout the blistering hour or so of Chief Judge Kidd's sentence for five sexual abuse charges against two 13-year-old choirboys.

The crimes were brazen, the judge said, and "breathtakingly arrogant".

"The power imbalance between the victims and senior church leaders or officials, yourself included, was stark."

Here was the man who dined with prime ministers, who went into battle in the culture wars, who cast an enormous shadow over the Catholic Church and Australian culture life.

He spent his days telling the rest of us how we ought to live our lives, and now, here he was, scratching out his signature on the sex offender register.

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Catholics gonna catholic.

Will he serve time in a pound-me-in-the-ass prison?

They are sending him to a prison which houses mainly pedos, so he should fit right in.

wonder how many appeals he can have? like if he loses his first appeal, can he appeal again to a higher court?