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(OP) Forum Administrator 04/19/2019 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. If you haven't watched Vaxxed, it's a must-watch. Same with Trace Amounts, The Greater Good, and anything with Dr. Suzanne Humphries. Her "Manufactured Consent" is absolutely brilliant. I will link them here. You will learn SO much. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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User ID: 76026869 United States 04/19/2019 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No doubt, Christians “can” and do lots of things. I’ve been flipped off by a “Christian” before and have seen others. The internet is no different. If one is going to carry the name of Christ then let your language, actions, and writings show it, we are known by our fruits. Col 3:8 is the F word not filthy language? Does saying F you edify another or build them up? Giving grace to those who hear as we read in Galations? It’s ok to take up for a friend, and I agree with Many of his posts, but we should all be mindful of our example Good grief, the word "fornicate" is in the bible itself. Fuck is akin to calling guacamole "guac". Another possibility for the word fuck came about as a fuck notice. It's been said that there was a time when fornication had to have consent and was visibly marked by written authorization. Fornicate Under Consent of the King. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010 Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines. This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke... I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting. I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it. Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick. I'm watching the video in the OP right now, and it's FEAR which keeps us from solving this vaccine issue. Everyone is too AFRAID to let the truth come to light. All for selfish reasons. Fear of losing profit from vaccines.... fear of legal repercussions for questioning the whole thing, etc. We need to realize what is important in our lives :) Love, not fear. It's fear which keeps us from solving this issue of vaccines. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010 Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines. This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke... I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting. I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it. Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick. I'm watching the video in the OP right now, and it's FEAR which keeps us from solving this vaccine issue. Everyone is too AFRAID to let the truth come to light. All for selfish reasons. Fear of losing profit from vaccines.... fear of legal repercussions for questioning the whole thing, etc. We need to realize what is important in our lives :) Love, not fear. It's fear which keeps us from solving this issue of vaccines. People are afraid of letting the truth come to light. People are just simply afraid |
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janedoenut
User ID: 76026869 United States 04/19/2019 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are afraid of letting the truth come to light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780 People are just simply afraid I'm glad you're able to watch it. Fear, apathy and brainwashing is how we got into this mess and stepping outside your comfort zone is the only way to stop it. I was scared too but I didn't let that get into the way. One of the results I experienced was that when people saw me stand up, they followed suit. I cannot do it alone and as it should, doing right can spread like a wildfire. Please do not hand the rights of my children and yours be taken; stand up! Last Edited by janedoenut on 04/19/2019 03:29 PM “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76130010 United States 04/19/2019 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010 Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines. This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke... I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting. I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it. Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick. I'm a 50 something mother, educated, and have 31 years of the fight in my resume, much has been done to fight the cause for all of us by me. You have no knowledge of what I have done, you cannot judge me there. I never gave any of my kids more of the poisons after the first knowing of what they could do, then I educated myself. It was not a hard decision, when you see your baby in convulsions dying in your arms it has an effect. I get why you came down on the op who replied to me, but I cannot judge another or their path. I myself moved out of the country to stand up for this travesty of justice, but I had to return for other valid reasons, and will leave again. In regards to the holocaust, it was metaphor most would understand, perhaps you have issues there, many innocent people were saved during wars by a little tweak of a bogus official document. I think insulting one who shares your position about the vaccine issue is counterproductive and a waste of thought and energy which could be spent better elsewhere. At any rate I feel the impetus is that none of us as parents agree to the blatant disregard for our rights and our children's well being and anything we feel we must do to protect them is warranted. You are assuming there is a democracy and fighting the criminal government is an option at this juncture, and I see the futility at this current time. You don't make me sick, but your misplaced anger and ignorance make me sad, as I bet we agree more than not... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76489539 United States 04/19/2019 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Del absolutely murdered this "debate". Anyone listening who is pro vax, HAS to agree with almost everything he said. You can't be pro vax and not support extensive testing. They have to then think for themselves, as to WHY they haven't done studies. human suffering, sickness < profits |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 04/19/2019 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Del absolutely murdered this "debate". Anyone listening who is pro vax, HAS to agree with almost everything he said. You can't be pro vax and not support extensive testing. Quoting: Master of Nothing They have to then think for themselves, as to WHY they haven't done studies. human suffering, sickness < profits T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010 Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines. This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke... I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting. I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it. Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick. I'm a 50 something mother, educated, and have 31 years of the fight in my resume, much has been done to fight the cause for all of us by me. You have no knowledge of what I have done, you cannot judge me there. I never gave any of my kids more of the poisons after the first knowing of what they could do, then I educated myself. It was not a hard decision, when you see your baby in convulsions dying in your arms it has an effect. I get why you came down on the op who replied to me, but I cannot judge another or their path. I myself moved out of the country to stand up for this travesty of justice, but I had to return for other valid reasons, and will leave again. In regards to the holocaust, it was metaphor most would understand, perhaps you have issues there, many innocent people were saved during wars by a little tweak of a bogus official document. I think insulting one who shares your position about the vaccine issue is counterproductive and a waste of thought and energy which could be spent better elsewhere. At any rate I feel the impetus is that none of us as parents agree to the blatant disregard for our rights and our children's well being and anything we feel we must do to protect them is warranted. You are assuming there is a democracy and fighting the criminal government is an option at this juncture, and I see the futility at this current time. You don't make me sick, but your misplaced anger and ignorance make me sad, as I bet we agree more than not... You make a good point. I have made a 180. Janedoenut was being a jackass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are afraid of letting the truth come to light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398780 People are just simply afraid I'm glad you're able to watch it. Fear, apathy and brainwashing is how we got into this mess and stepping outside your comfort zone is the only way to stop it. I was scared too but I didn't let that get into the way. One of the results I experienced was that when people saw me stand up, they followed suit. I cannot do it alone and as it should, doing right can spread like a wildfire. Please do not hand the rights of my children and yours be taken; stand up! No. You are being a jackass. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Del absolutely murdered this "debate". Anyone listening who is pro vax, HAS to agree with almost everything he said. You can't be pro vax and not support extensive testing. Quoting: Master of Nothing They have to then think for themselves, as to WHY they haven't done studies. human suffering, sickness < profits :this1: Why does everyone on GLP feel the need to guilt trip me! :P I am leaving GLP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77227766 Canada 04/19/2019 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The subject matter of this thread is not whether vaccination is a legitimate science in and of itself, which it is, the subject is the legitimacy of the pharmaceutical companies distributing them, and the fact they're not doing so safely or with due process. But thanks for showing us your true intentions behind participating in this thread at all. |
janedoenut
User ID: 76026869 United States 04/19/2019 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a 50 something mother, educated, and have 31 years of the fight in my resume, much has been done to fight the cause for all of us by me. You have no knowledge of what I have done, you cannot judge me there. I never gave any of my kids more of the poisons after the first knowing of what they could do, then I educated myself. It was not a hard decision, when you see your baby in convulsions dying in your arms it has an effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010 I get why you came down on the op who replied to me, but I cannot judge another or their path. I myself moved out of the country to stand up for this travesty of justice, but I had to return for other valid reasons, and will leave again. In regards to the holocaust, it was metaphor most would understand, perhaps you have issues there, many innocent people were saved during wars by a little tweak of a bogus official document. I think insulting one who shares your position about the vaccine issue is counterproductive and a waste of thought and energy which could be spent better elsewhere. At any rate I feel the impetus is that none of us as parents agree to the blatant disregard for our rights and our children's well being and anything we feel we must do to protect them is warranted. You are assuming there is a democracy and fighting the criminal government is an option at this juncture, and I see the futility at this current time. You don't make me sick, but your misplaced anger and ignorance make me sad, as I bet we agree more than not... I'm an educated 50 year old mother and grandmother as well. I am not judging their path, I am angry that they are giving rights away by consent. That is where my anger is. I have no Holocaust issues, save that my grandfather was a Jewish Paperclip rocket and rocket propulsion engineer. I understood the analogy, I'm not stupid. I believe that I would have fought back just as I am willing to stand up today. I don't want to fight with people on the same side but I honestly don't feel that 'faking papers' is on the same side. I am genuinely thankful that their children are vaccine free but by shady means that are harming all of us. What you call ignorance is misplaced. I am the only one mentioning this very key element and have actually put into practice the fight for your rights. To call me ignorant is arrogant. The entire vaccine demand is about taking those rights, if others won't stand up, who will? What rights will be in place when our grandchildren are grown? I am assuming ...democracy working? Your assessment could not be anymore wrong. Sorry to derail OP. I'll make a thread. Last Edited by janedoenut on 04/19/2019 04:05 PM “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think todays science is absolutely incredible. It's just hard to trust any of it, especailly because of this fraud science and their rigged, fake vax studies. Man, this shit makes my blood boil over Quoting: Master of Nothing I actually think there is a legitimate reason for the gov't denying any correlation between autism and vaccines. If they admitted to that, then everyone would stop getting vaccines. And diseases would likely SPREAD. It would be suicidal to do otherwise. Vaccines DO work. They shouldn't be demonized. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77227766 Canada 04/19/2019 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think todays science is absolutely incredible. It's just hard to trust any of it, especailly because of this fraud science and their rigged, fake vax studies. Man, this shit makes my blood boil over Quoting: Master of Nothing I actually think there is a legitimate reason for the gov't denying any correlation between autism and vaccines. If they admitted to that, then everyone would stop getting vaccines. And diseases would likely SPREAD. It would be suicidal to do otherwise. Vaccines DO work. They shouldn't be demonized. Vaccines work on paper. So does communism. That doesn't mean it turns out that well in practice. In fact both failed for the same reasons- greed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76130010 United States 04/19/2019 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear you, but I really questioned how far I was willing to go to protect my rights and my child, I cannot fault any parent when you have such an over reaching government trying to force us to harm our own children. My pain on this issue is soul wrenching, I am in daily anguish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010 Would you have forged papers to save a child during the holocaust? I would have a million times over, this is a different type of holocaust, children are dying immediately, then many, many just become so damaged they can never lead normal lives. For the rest it's a long slow kill if you buy the data of cancer and autoimmune disease as having foundations in the vaccines. This is truly the murder and maiming of millions of children and the untold anguish of their parents and families. They make Dr. Mengele look compassionate. No joke... I understand your lack of spine. I fought the fight and did not vaccinate my kids and my daughter also fights for her own. We don't just hand our rights and the rights of others on a silver platter. You, by your own admission, didn't know how far you were willing to go to protect our rights. Those rights or lack thereof that you're handing over will be inherited by the children you say you are protecting. I don't mean to be so hard on you or push you away to the point that you cannot take the reality of what I'm saying and seriously reflect upon it. Yes, vaccines are killing us. Would I have forged papers? That's incomparable and to be honest, I don't know, probably not. I would have fought. I believe it's better to die fighting for one's life than to go silently. I don't believe the 'official narrative' of the Holocaust. Vaccines have exemptions. I don't think the Holocaust had exemptions. If your state doesn't then get your priorities straight and move. My state didn't allow homeschooling so I moved. I did this to protect my family. I fought for your rights and the rights of your children better than you did and that makes me sick. I'm a 50 something mother, educated, and have 31 years of the fight in my resume, much has been done to fight the cause for all of us by me. You have no knowledge of what I have done, you cannot judge me there. I never gave any of my kids more of the poisons after the first knowing of what they could do, then I educated myself. It was not a hard decision, when you see your baby in convulsions dying in your arms it has an effect. I get why you came down on the op who replied to me, but I cannot judge another or their path. I myself moved out of the country to stand up for this travesty of justice, but I had to return for other valid reasons, and will leave again. In regards to the holocaust, it was metaphor most would understand, perhaps you have issues there, many innocent people were saved during wars by a little tweak of a bogus official document. I think insulting one who shares your position about the vaccine issue is counterproductive and a waste of thought and energy which could be spent better elsewhere. At any rate I feel the impetus is that none of us as parents agree to the blatant disregard for our rights and our children's well being and anything we feel we must do to protect them is warranted. You are assuming there is a democracy and fighting the criminal government is an option at this juncture, and I see the futility at this current time. You don't make me sick, but your misplaced anger and ignorance make me sad, as I bet we agree more than not... You make a good point. I have made a 180. Janedoenut was being a jackass. I appreciate that, the passion in connection with our children and this issue can have some running in circles, this is what exactly what tptb want. The entire debate here in the video and the argument of the states as well as the federal government, centers on the herd immunity issue, that ultimately "ALL" children must be vaccinated in order to eradicate the various illnesses for which the vaccines are supposedly designed to eliminate. Problem is, the science is negligent,erroneous, and fabricated, proven so at the expense of many. In reality they would need to perpetually vaccinate not only the infants and children, but all adults in the world as well, as vaccines expire with rapidity in most cases according to the manufacturers own determinations. Hence "ALL" adults who don't re vaccinate themselves often, pose the same risk factors of the supposed herd immunity argument the governments purport to utilize as the argument for total vaccination rates for the childhood populace. It's all nonsense, void of science, perpetuated by greed at the highest echelons. Ultimately this is where it is going, vaccine compliance for all ages in perpetuity as protective mechanism, as was just legally mandated in a NY court in relation to a current measles outbreak. All ages must comply. Get ready, as there is a lifetime of toxic needles waiting for all of us, and as far as I can tell, they already won... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69398780 France 04/19/2019 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think todays science is absolutely incredible. It's just hard to trust any of it, especailly because of this fraud science and their rigged, fake vax studies. Man, this shit makes my blood boil over Quoting: Master of Nothing I actually think there is a legitimate reason for the gov't denying any correlation between autism and vaccines. If they admitted to that, then everyone would stop getting vaccines. And diseases would likely SPREAD. It would be suicidal to do otherwise. Vaccines DO work. They shouldn't be demonized. Vaccines work on paper. So does communism. That doesn't mean it turns out that well in practice. In fact both failed for the same reasons- greed. Think about it from a cost-benefit perspective. Do we want the reemergence of CONTAGIOUS disease? Or supposed autism? I mean... which one is worse? From what I know, there is no alternative to vaccines at the moment. Is there? |
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