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Went to pick up my Moms meds..DEA Agents Showed up NW NJ

 
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annnnd my last comment killed this? So here is the thing. awhile ago I saw some really sad stuff on Twitter. It was from pain patients. They were talking about mass suicides and new drug laws that were really bad for them.

THEY BLAME "drug addicts". They INSIST that THEY are not, and in fact they hate "drug addicts" because the addicts made it hard for them to get their "medication".

I got into it a little with them. I have NEVER had so many replies in years on twitter. This link is a long read but the advice to commit suicide happens umpteen times in it more after you get into it, it is just NUTS.

So they would rather kill themselves because of pain than join their drug addict enemies and slurp down a little methadone? It just does not make any sense to me. Maybe it is pharma-bots making this stuff up I don't know, but I do know if it were me and my legit pain med was cut off I would call myself a drug addict in a heartbeat if it meant relief from pain.
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The reason some don't admit to being an addict is once you are listed as having addictive tendencies in your medical file, you will never get opiates again, or highly unlikely especially these days. Even if you relocate to another state, that doc will request your medical history/file and he will see you are an addict.

But it may be better than eating a bullet. Methadone is not really an equally effective painkiller for sever pain.
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I have debilitating fibro,cfs,degenerative disc disease, scolosis, been in serious pain, often horrific pain, for the last two decades....only got pain meds about two years of that time...I've spent years of my life in bed...while raising kids..by myself..no family or friends helped me. My adult sons had the same as myself ten years now, another has r.a. we get zero pain meds, zero disability benefits....yet if I was rich, famous, I would get whatever pills I wanted...and of I was an addict, i would get sympathy, and methadone....which ironically enough, kills pain. I no longer have funds to pay a self pay pain clinic, and I've been on a waiting list years in alabama with medicaid, to see a pain doc!!! It's pure insanity! It's barbaric!
 Quoting: Halfbreedgal 69638656


Get out of Alabama if you can. The state is run by ignorant rednecks that think holistic doctors, herbalists and acupuncturists are evil foreign heathens and have probably run any they had before out of the state. Medicaid there is unlikely to cover any natural treatments because the State Legislature gets to determine how those federal funds are used, not the feds.

If you're not too far from a state line, you might be able to use that Medicaid in another state that has a better set of options simply by explaining to Human Services that you cannot get any medical help where you live now. It is definitely worth a phone call to find out.

It's odd that your sons have the same disabilities! If that can be proven by medical records as a genetic propensity, it might speed up disability for you. You're going to have to lawyer up to get it anyway; even your Alabama phonebook is going to have pages of lawyers that specialize in that. The lawyer will get his or her fee out of the larger sum you get when your payments start, or out of the settlement if you file a lawsuit - it seems to me you have a reasonable case for one.
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Im from ohio, lived in ten states now...this is one of the worst, like you said. ....no way I can leave....don't want to anyway. I have an affordable place, safe in the country, on 55 acres...we have our own creek,woods, pastures, and even our own mountain..wildlife and plenty of bumble bees still here...I came here so my kids would have a chance in the chaos to come soon...yes, shitty healthcare, but the healthcare industry does nothing but throw bullshit, dangerous pharma drugs at people like us...to different ones harmed me,my son greatly. ...then my so called lawyer screwed me in the lawsuit. ..I treat myself now...no way am I going back into that corrupt so called healthcare bullshit system.they nearly killed me. My sons refuse to see them too,after being treated like shit equally, and watching what so called doctors did to me over the years...i became a self taught herbalist to survive. ....I know so much about alternative medicine now that I treat infections without antibiotics successfully. ....fuck the American healthcare system, it's a joke. All they would do anyway is give me shitty tramdol after putting me through more months of hell while treating me like a criminal just for needing it. I can't get disability. ...tried the lawyer thing years ago...my sons don't want it either, we don't want to be a part of this system...and you cannot go to another state and get medicaid...but thanks. ..my mother has it too...all these newer diseases are man-made, bioweapons produced in labs,sprayed over the population....with our tax dollars! I've studied all this extensively two decades,while stuck in bed years....it's a mycoplasma...a virus....I am taking another expieremental self treatment. .....doctors don't cure disease anyway....they cover it up with pills to keep the corrupt pharma companies going...so yeah...even if they finally called me to the pain clinic,after years of waiting , I'd prob tell them to go fuck themselves...you have no idea the hell dozens of shitty docs aka pharma whores , have put me through.
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Re: Went to pick up my Moms meds..DEA Agents Showed up NW NJ
You need a shotgun.
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Uh you are the snarky bich?
Its not our fault we found something besides opium and did good?
Sorry about your mom.
I bet you didn't even try to do or find anything different tho? So you have no bich on any of us?
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Sorry, I beg to differ. I have tried everything I can get my hands on. Pot makes my pain worse, and I get sick of seeing every reply saying, "use pot man." I don't care if you do or don't smoke pot, but it is not an answer for me. I was giving my mom some of my meds to the point I was running out early. I assume you have never gone through withdrawals no suffered from chronic pain, so don't judge me. I was not judging you nor anyone else. Just stating to keep the pot advice to yourself.

And I am the same snarky guy who donated $1k to the post you made for your friends dog Rex. So put that in your bowl and smoke it.
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I don't like pot products either...and they also make my pain even worse. People judging haven't sat in bed all day in tears, day after day, month after month, watching their life slip away while the world goes by...like I have. The high quality cbd products that are really suppose to help are very expensive anyway...out of reach for poor people who havent worked in years due to pain. Life is pure hell some days...many days I will not ever get back.
 Quoting: Halfbreedgal 69525879


Thank you. I empathize with you as it sounds as if your life is akin to mine. I live downstairs, apart from my wife because I have to try to get whatever sleep I can in a recliner; I cannot lie flat. The fear of losing what is left of my pain meds is a daily worry that is always in the back of my mind. We do sit and watch a lot of our lives go to waste. I try to do what I can outdoors, but activity just aggravates my condition, and with my reduction in meds and my doc not grasping the concept of tolerance of a 20-year opiate user, I am limited in what I can do.

My life was so much better when I found many ways to access meds. Now that those have gone away, my life has gone downhill. And I am too stupid to figure out the dark web, and even then, too dumb to figure out how to use bitcoin. I am retired and just want to live what is left of my life in the best way possible. I have to cash to purchase all the meds that I would need for the rest of my life, but I would not have a clue where to find them now. As it goes now, I don't want to live much longer and am trying to speed up my demise by eating as unhealthy as possible.

I really wish the CBD or edibles would have worked for me. I tried them all, CBD with thc, without thc, vape pens, bath products, balms, oils, you name it (S.I.L. is a manufacturer and is always trying to find new things for me to try. Different strains of thc products made no difference. Aside from making me a paranoid mute, it also focussed my mind directly on my pain and intensified it. So I can sympathize with your use of the products. It is great for some but not for all. It is the same way with opiates, some work for some people, others cannot stand them. I just happen to be one of those people that it drastically turned my life around and made it worth living.

Good luck to you in your struggles. I hope that someday you find relief for your pain and ailments. Or better yet, a cure. Medicine is always advancing, so do not lose hope. One thing I need to look into is stem cell treatment. I have heard little about this and would like to find out more.

I wish you well in your life, and peace and pain-free days. Have a happy Easter.
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Im so sorry..have you tried kratom? It's a miracle for chronic pain..I used it years until they made it illegal in my state. Most states it's legal, tho...you have to expierement with it....use it different ways until you find how it works best for you...gaiaethnobotanicals .com is a good place to order...try to get a sample pack of various strains. .
Green maeng da is ideal for pain...a miracle really..it gave me some of my life back for a while....please look into this! I'll be praying for you.
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Sorry, I beg to differ. I have tried everything I can get my hands on. Pot makes my pain worse, and I get sick of seeing every reply saying, "use pot man." I don't care if you do or don't smoke pot, but it is not an answer for me. I was giving my mom some of my meds to the point I was running out early. I assume you have never gone through withdrawals no suffered from chronic pain, so don't judge me. I was not judging you nor anyone else. Just stating to keep the pot advice to yourself.

And I am the same snarky guy who donated $1k to the post you made for your friends dog Rex. So put that in your bowl and smoke it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331530


I don't like pot products either...and they also make my pain even worse. People judging haven't sat in bed all day in tears, day after day, month after month, watching their life slip away while the world goes by...like I have. The high quality cbd products that are really suppose to help are very expensive anyway...out of reach for poor people who havent worked in years due to pain. Life is pure hell some days...many days I will not ever get back.
 Quoting: Halfbreedgal 69525879


Thank you. I empathize with you as it sounds as if your life is akin to mine. I live downstairs, apart from my wife because I have to try to get whatever sleep I can in a recliner; I cannot lie flat. The fear of losing what is left of my pain meds is a daily worry that is always in the back of my mind. We do sit and watch a lot of our lives go to waste. I try to do what I can outdoors, but activity just aggravates my condition, and with my reduction in meds and my doc not grasping the concept of tolerance of a 20-year opiate user, I am limited in what I can do.

My life was so much better when I found many ways to access meds. Now that those have gone away, my life has gone downhill. And I am too stupid to figure out the dark web, and even then, too dumb to figure out how to use bitcoin. I am retired and just want to live what is left of my life in the best way possible. I have to cash to purchase all the meds that I would need for the rest of my life, but I would not have a clue where to find them now. As it goes now, I don't want to live much longer and am trying to speed up my demise by eating as unhealthy as possible.

I really wish the CBD or edibles would have worked for me. I tried them all, CBD with thc, without thc, vape pens, bath products, balms, oils, you name it (S.I.L. is a manufacturer and is always trying to find new things for me to try. Different strains of thc products made no difference. Aside from making me a paranoid mute, it also focussed my mind directly on my pain and intensified it. So I can sympathize with your use of the products. It is great for some but not for all. It is the same way with opiates, some work for some people, others cannot stand them. I just happen to be one of those people that it drastically turned my life around and made it worth living.

Good luck to you in your struggles. I hope that someday you find relief for your pain and ailments. Or better yet, a cure. Medicine is always advancing, so do not lose hope. One thing I need to look into is stem cell treatment. I have heard little about this and would like to find out more.

I wish you well in your life, and peace and pain-free days. Have a happy Easter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331530


Im so sorry..have you tried kratom? It's a miracle for chronic pain..I used it years until they made it illegal in my state. Most states it's legal, tho...you have to expierement with it....use it different ways until you find how it works best for you...gaiaethnobotanicals .com is a good place to order...try to get a sample pack of various strains. .
Green maeng da is ideal for pain...a miracle really..it gave me some of my life back for a while....please look into this! I'll be praying for you.
 Quoting: Halfbreedgal 77576077


Start with capsules...drink o.j.or eat a grapefruit 45 minutes before you take a dose, works better....my email is halfbreedgal at mail.com if I can help more.
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Re: Went to pick up my Moms meds..DEA Agents Showed up NW NJ
Just take some Advil and a swig of jack you fucking crybabies
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I am also willing to help with pointers on kratom if anyone needs them. I have been in your shoes, you who live with chronic pain and feel like every day is a horror. I have been there. I'm not there any more, and haven't been for about 7 years. Kratom gave me back my life.
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Multi-state rallies scheduled for May 22nd. Lots of info at this site:

[link to dontpunishpainrally.com (secure)]
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I understand your anger, and agree the entire thing has swung to another extreme that is hurting a lot of innocent people, BUT ... the peeps you scolded are low level enforcement types doing a job.

The ones who really need to hear rants from people suffering due to the current political climate, are the legislators who make the shortsighted laws and regulations.

My answer? Legalize it all and let natural selection sort it out.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


This. 100%

And a 3 revive policy. No more.
 Quoting: Boaty


set-up government dispensaries and let the Weaklings have it.
just like the Methadone Program and Assisted Suicide.





GLP