The Feds Are Dropping Child Porn Cases... | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77586719 United States 04/26/2019 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Pilgrim001 I'm conflicted on this. I wouldn't want any child molested, but I don't like prosecuting and imprisoning people for a thought crime. "Collectors" that like to look at child porn, but have never or will ever molest a child are prosecuted as though they Had molested children. They are sick people, but should they be jailed for their thoughts and have their family's lives destroyed? How about just some Electric Shock aversion therapy or something? They are secondary offenders. Do you think the child porn industry would be so profitable if not for the "collectors"? But they are not tried or sentenced as "secondary." At least not in the US. Hands on abusers will abuse whether they are paid or not. I believe they are usually charged with possession, which is a crime. Are you arguing that it shouldn't be? Abusers will abuse, yes. Profiteers, on the other hand, can't make money without those voyeurs. This is bigger than a couple of pedophiles taking pictures, it's a huge industry. Simply not true. You are believing the hype and not the reality. Any "industry" for child porn is outside the US as other countries simply do not agree with US levels of "morality." Even European and Australian countries find third party pictures as more of a misdemeanor than a felony and lifelong "sex offender" status. Making these wild leaps of imagination is what allowed these extreme laws and sentences to become law in the US in the first place. Like everything, it was an excuse to give the Feds more control and they took it. Very dangerous to allow the Feds the right to imprison someone for years and make them a "sex offender" for life based on a few third party computer files. Very easy to set someone up with that. Watch the video earlier in this thread. "Hands on" and "producing" the pictures is a whole different matter but that is only a tiny portion of the actual "sex offenders" on the US lists. Read the first hand horror stories from the families on prisontalk and you will see how easy it is to become a felon sex offender in the US. Trusting this corrupt DOJ with that kind of power is not good. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77586719 United States 04/26/2019 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be honest I don’t even understand how kitty porn can constitutionally be banned from someone looking at it why can the government ban that and not any other image or information seems like a major First Amendment Violation that nobody is willing to take on Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76664801 Oh, look -- a pervert. Sick that some can defend that sort of thing -- on constitutional grounds , no less Says the guy from Portugal where incest is legal. LOL. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76972080 United States 04/26/2019 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: It's A Secret They are secondary offenders. Do you think the child porn industry would be so profitable if not for the "collectors"? But they are not tried or sentenced as "secondary." At least not in the US. Hands on abusers will abuse whether they are paid or not. I believe they are usually charged with possession, which is a crime. Are you arguing that it shouldn't be? Abusers will abuse, yes. Profiteers, on the other hand, can't make money without those voyeurs. This is bigger than a couple of pedophiles taking pictures, it's a huge industry. Simply not true. You are believing the hype and not the reality. Any "industry" for child porn is outside the US as other countries simply do not agree with US levels of "morality." Even European and Australian countries find third party pictures as more of a misdemeanor than a felony and lifelong "sex offender" status. Making these wild leaps of imagination is what allowed these extreme laws and sentences to become law in the US in the first place. Like everything, it was an excuse to give the Feds more control and they took it. Very dangerous to allow the Feds the right to imprison someone for years and make them a "sex offender" for life based on a few third party computer files. Very easy to set someone up with that. Watch the video earlier in this thread. "Hands on" and "producing" the pictures is a whole different matter but that is only a tiny portion of the actual "sex offenders" on the US lists. Read the first hand horror stories from the families on prisontalk and you will see how easy it is to become a felon sex offender in the US. Trusting this corrupt DOJ with that kind of power is not good. I'm not sure where I said the industry was in the US, but many of those viewing it- and paying for it - are. It seems we will have to agree to disagree about the seriousness of possessing child pornography. At this point it is a moral argument, not a legal one, as the law is established. I know there are many who wear the label "sex offender", who morally shouldn't. I've known some personally, although none accused of possession of child pornography. I know the classification system is not perfect and there needs to be more case by case discrepancy allowed, but that's a different discussion than child pornography. I haven't watched the video, I will agree that it would be easy to set someone up, and I would hope the technology is there to trace that sort of thing as well, or will be soon. What about those that aren't set-up though? You are saying there is nothing wrong with possessing child pornography, at least that seems to be your position from my perspective. If I'm wrong please correct me, because that naturally correlates in my mind to you thinking there is nothing wrong with child pornography. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77473248 Netherlands 04/26/2019 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Less than 50% Quoting: It's A Secret The Department of Justice has been dismissing child pornography cases in order to not reveal information about the software programs used as the basis for the charges. [link to reason.com (secure)] I'm conflicted on this. I wouldn't want any child molested, but I don't like prosecuting and imprisoning people for a thought crime. "Collectors" that like to look at child porn, but have never or will ever molest a child are prosecuted as though they Had molested children. They are sick people, but should they be jailed for their thoughts and have their family's lives destroyed? How about just some Electric Shock aversion therapy or something? Stupid post...you just made the "list" dude. Dumb post and horrible comments. your post reeks of narcissism are you supporting murder until proven as guilt with your stupidity? |
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User ID: 36721404 United States 04/27/2019 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed. As far as I'm concerned the child is violated every time image/video is viewed. Quoting: It's A Secret That child IS abused every time the image is viewed. No doubt of it. And it could go on forever. This is NOT a thought crime. That cop-out really bothers me. The sole reason a sicko only views photos or videos is fear - fear of being caught if acting on their desires. I don't want to hear it's okay to look, just not to touch - the touching WILL commence as soon as what looks like a fail-proof opportunity arises, or as soon as the sick desperation overcomes the fear of being found out. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77596076 United States 04/27/2019 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They know who downloaded it because it was provided by the feds servers. That's what they don't want to admit to. Being the source. Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez for anyone who doubts that they do that.. Australian police (Task Force Argos) literally took over, hosted and administrated Child's Play for 11 months before shutting it down (2016-2017) Original coverage by Norwegian newspaper [link to www.vg.no (secure)] shorter article: [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] it was one of the two largest darkweb CP forums in its day, next to Magic Kingdom. over a million registered accounts. as part of impersonating the site admin, agents had to post a monthly PGP canary including an explicit image. that was a precautionary rule on most CP forums, on the theory that law enforcement wouldn't be able to do that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73624498 United States 04/27/2019 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They know who downloaded it because it was provided by the feds servers. That's what they don't want to admit to. Being the source. Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez for anyone who doubts that they do that.. Australian police (Task Force Argos) literally took over, hosted and administrated Child's Play for 11 months before shutting it down (2016-2017) Original coverage by Norwegian newspaper [link to www.vg.no (secure)] shorter article: [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] it was one of the two largest darkweb CP forums in its day, next to Magic Kingdom. over a million registered accounts. as part of impersonating the site admin, agents had to post a monthly PGP canary including an explicit image. that was a precautionary rule on most CP forums, on the theory that law enforcement wouldn't be able to do that. This is why when a local pol wants to do away with a political "troublemaker," no matter how humble the person, an activist for causes that upset the status quo, a u.s. senator may have to give the OK. Where is the sympathy for the innocent who are set up in this way? Try to run for even humble local office if you are against the real estate industry or big pharma, for example. Even if you are as innocent as the driven snow, monied interests who have bought the politicians will direct them to destroy you. Haven't you ever wondered why they don't go after the people who make the filth? Because it's so useful, like the drug trade. And, of course, it's for the children, children and golden retrievers, the last bastion of scoundrels. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77596076 United States 04/27/2019 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77596076 Australian police (Task Force Argos) literally took over, hosted and administrated Child's Play for 11 months before shutting it down (2016-2017) Original coverage by Norwegian newspaper [link to www.vg.no (secure)] it's in English, and very illuminating look at the mindset and practices of law enforcement in these cases. some surprising tidbits in there that I won't quote. Task Force Argos has become a very annoying name in the CP world, over the last decade. Australian law regarding what police are "allowed to do" in stings is one of the most lenient for a developed country, compared to the FBI for example. after an op, they send their results to INTERPOL for dissemination to regional authorities |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76044285 United States 04/27/2019 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This just shows how sick the US govt is. They would rather protect software which can be rewritten than children who are damaged for eternity. Fuck the Feds and their defense of pedophilia. It obvious they are in league with the dark side,devil, evil, etc. |