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Music question, what's the devil's note?

 
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
are you looking for a tritone?
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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The 'devils' interval is the flattened 5th
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
Gonna just guess, rap?
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
theres really such a thing called a devil's note??
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F sharp
At a high frequency
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Here ya go

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You ni666as gonna open a portola to hell
Draw a giant square
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Play F sharp on the highest frequency your ears can register
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Here ya go


 Quoting: astrithr


'Brown note' is real. But you obviously have no idea what you are trying to put across. Video is BS

The brown note is barely audible - only to the most discerning ear.

And it would have to be LOUD enough to make your body vibrate in an uncontrollable manner.

FYI the brown note is real, and it is in the 30hz range - experiment LOL
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theres really such a thing called a devil's note??
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No there isn't - there is an interval called the 'devils' interval - a flattened 5th. Or add one more note and you can get the devils 'tritone'
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.


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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


That interval is like turning everything on it's head. And that is literally shown in a harmonsiphere.
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.


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Did you make up that bullshit diagram?

No such things as major or minor 6s - Do you even read music bro?
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
 Quoting: Plato


Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


Did you make up that bullshit diagram?

No such things as major or minor 6s - Do you even read music bro?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


They're all musical intervals. Major 6th - [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.

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Did you make up that bullshit diagram?

No such things as major or minor 6s - Do you even read music bro?
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No, someone else made that diagram. It's a great way to look at musical intervals geometrically.
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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
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Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


Did you make up that bullshit diagram?

No such things as major or minor 6s - Do you even read music bro?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


They're all musical intervals. Major 6th - [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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You source Wiki - Immediate fail

I will re-iterate can you even read music?
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Great question. Yes, the tritone.

If you look at a harmonisphere..... such as this - [link to www.harmonisphere.com]

... The devil's 5th, or tritone, or diminished 5th.... is the interval between a note.... and it's TOTAL opposite! As shown by the root note and the dim 5th in the diagram there. It represents a complete inversion of the note. I think that is why people refer to it as the "devil's" 5th..... Because that interval represents complete disharmony, while still abiding by the musical structure of scales. Like it's just the total inversion of a note.

And that is why lots of metal bands use that interval.

It's like turning the note upside down using that interval

Example, at 4 seconds into this song.... From 4 to 5 seconds in.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


Did you make up that bullshit diagram?

No such things as major or minor 6s - Do you even read music bro?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


They're all musical intervals. Major 6th - [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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You source Wiki - Immediate fail

I will re-iterate can you even read music?
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Yeah I can.
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Did you make up that bullshit diagram?

No such things as major or minor 6s - Do you even read music bro?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


They're all musical intervals. Major 6th - [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


You source Wiki - Immediate fail

I will re-iterate can you even read music?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


Yeah I can.
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You think you can, but you need to learn a great deal more.

Have you been a pro musician for over 20 years and played a chord 'Cm#6' ???? Don't think so...
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They're all musical intervals. Major 6th - [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


You source Wiki - Immediate fail

I will re-iterate can you even read music?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


Yeah I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


You think you can, but you need to learn a great deal more.

Have you been a pro musician for over 20 years and played a chord 'Cm#6' ???? Don't think so...
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I think they're just musical intervals dude :P

They are just names for musical intervals between any given note.
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You source Wiki - Immediate fail

I will re-iterate can you even read music?
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


Yeah I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


You think you can, but you need to learn a great deal more.

Have you been a pro musician for over 20 years and played a chord 'Cm#6' ???? Don't think so...
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


I think they're just musical intervals dude :P

They are just names for musical intervals between any given note.
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If you are interested in intervals and scales, I would suggest looking at the Pythagorean model, tempered tuning and 432hz.
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
Yes, it's the tritone. It is a very powerful concept in jazz music. The nice thing about the tritone is you can invert it and it sounds the same. So when you are playing chords and need to use some combination of a 13th or maybe a 9th in your chord, you can invert the tritone to get a nicer "chord grip". The tritone is used to get that lead in tone or chromatic sound in jazz to tell everyone where you are going in "the changes". Also, you can use what's called the "dominant substitution rule". This is where you substitute a ii minor with a dom 7th. So in a 2-5-1 you would play Dom 7, Dom 7, Maj 7. It gives some added flexibility.
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
Diabolus in Musica (Devil in Music)

Generally called a diminished 5th or a tritone. Enharmonic equivalent of an augmented 4th.

The intervallic relationship of a diminished 5th is six semi-tones, either up or down from the starting pitch.

On a keyboard:

C - C# D - D# E - F - F# G - G# A - A# - B - C
0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12

Count up six steps starting from any note and you will arrive at that note's tritone. (C to F#/Gb is a tritone.)

Because western tonal music consists of 12 equal-tempered tones, the 6th tone splits the chromatic scale in half, thereby inverting the interval no matter what pitch is played.

A 5th (intervallic distance of seven semi-tones) is considered perfect. (C to G is a perfect 5th.)

Perfect has to do with the ratio of the two tones under consideration: 5:4, 3:2, 2:1.

Other intervals are considered imperfect (2nds, 3rds, 6ths, 7ths). These rations might be 18:32, 12:15, 30:36, etc.

The imperfect are more mathematically and harmonically complex whereas perfect intervals are more simple.

Another way to look at the diminished (to make smaller or reduced) 5th is to consider it as slightly "less than perfect," as the perfect 5th is the most stable harmonic interval, as well as providing the tonic-dominate relationship for western music, pre-atonalism.

Similar to spiritual understandings: we strive for perfection but fall short of the Ideal.

Another way again to look at it again is in terms of sound-resolution. It simultaneously offers the most discordant of sounds, while providing the most tense need of motion: it entices the ear while immediately necessitating moving onward and away from it.

Skilled composers know how to manipulate the tritone to cause radical shifts in the listener's consciousness.

The ancient church forbid the use of the tritone (hence the name diabolus in musica) precisely because of the effect it had on the consciousness of the day.

We in the modern world are so used to it that it does not cause the same effects it once did to our ancestors.
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Thank you so much rockon
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None of the above is "esoteric."
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
C#, A, G, E#

...it represents Earth and our inability to leave it...
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I think you're thinking of

B, A, C, Bb.
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Diabolus in Musica (Devil in Music)

Generally called a diminished 5th or a tritone. Enharmonic equivalent of an augmented 4th.

The intervallic relationship of a diminished 5th is six semi-tones, either up or down from the starting pitch.

On a keyboard:

C - C# D - D# E - F - F# G - G# A - A# - B - C
0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12

Count up six steps starting from any note and you will arrive at that note's tritone. (C to F#/Gb is a tritone.)

Because western tonal music consists of 12 equal-tempered tones, the 6th tone splits the chromatic scale in half, thereby inverting the interval no matter what pitch is played.

A 5th (intervallic distance of seven semi-tones) is considered perfect. (C to G is a perfect 5th.)

Perfect has to do with the ratio of the two tones under consideration: 5:4, 3:2, 2:1.

Other intervals are considered imperfect (2nds, 3rds, 6ths, 7ths). These rations might be 18:32, 12:15, 30:36, etc.

The imperfect are more mathematically and harmonically complex whereas perfect intervals are more simple.

Another way to look at the diminished (to make smaller or reduced) 5th is to consider it as slightly "less than perfect," as the perfect 5th is the most stable harmonic interval, as well as providing the tonic-dominate relationship for western music, pre-atonalism.

Similar to spiritual understandings: we strive for perfection but fall short of the Ideal.

Another way again to look at it again is in terms of sound-resolution. It simultaneously offers the most discordant of sounds, while providing the most tense need of motion: it entices the ear while immediately necessitating moving onward and away from it.

Skilled composers know how to manipulate the tritone to cause radical shifts in the listener's consciousness.

The ancient church forbid the use of the tritone (hence the name diabolus in musica) precisely because of the effect it had on the consciousness of the day.

We in the modern world are so used to it that it does not cause the same effects it once did to our ancestors.
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"Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music."

What "esoterically" are you searching for regarding music?

Anything you are able to articulate?
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Re: Music question, what's the devil's note?
I would say that if you wished to sonify something diametrically opposed to something else, then the devil's 5th would probably be the interval to do that.

Like total opposition. Again :P... that is probably why lots of black metal bands use that interval :P

It's all about total and utter opposition.

Clear use of that interval : l

just PURE FUCKING OPPOSITION. :P!


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Me and my friend are researching esoteric information about music. We ant to know what is the devil's note. To any music experts out there.
 Quoting: Plato


The 'devils' interval is the flattened 5th
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