They have already proven a flip has happened before and also their is enough evidence now that says it happens faster than slower...if fact a matter of days....

You guys thinking a bug out bag is going to save you....

If your not already living out of the city and have gotten some land already in the boonies and have been setting up where you have some privacy...where farms surround you....low population density....mountains terrain and high enough ground at least 2000 feet plus above sea level where lakes and creeks and rivers abound...your done for already...

You wont make it out as the masses will mass and plug the roads...

if you don't camp already all the time for sport or a hobby your history....

if you haven't walked 20km already with that heavy tent and bug out bag your dead as well...

You'll end up dumping everything on the ground or leaving most if not all of it behind just to walk where ever you think it is your going....

lets cut the crap....If your unhealthy and unfit and obese forget about bugging out anywhere...bug in...

You cant just bug out into the wilderness without supplies for 6mnths or your dead....if you don't have a destination.

I know where I live even in the winter having a home and barns and shops and equipment...life can be hard some days....especially after it just snowed 2-3 feet which it does...

Come winter anybody out in the so called wilderness unless you find deer trails and travel as they do your fucking dead...even good hunters miss shots all the time...you cant rely on catching shit in snares and shooting wildlife.

In both wars the country sides were cleaned out ewarly almost wiping deer and horse and cow populations off the maps in regions....

I am rigged and rigged and rigged and it still wont be a cake walk if the supply lines go down...because sooner than later we will all need something....

You cant possibly store even enough feed for animals...even if you did buy 6 years worth it goes bad and moldy and gets to dry and losses nutrition....Rodents get into it all.


No matter how you slice it most will perish early on....


if you get seriously hurt its over and a lot will because their bodies are not in shape enough for all the hard work it will take just to stay alive everyday for years until it gets better which might take decades....

Everything else goes bad eventually as well...Fuel and batteries and shit breaks....

Why do you think in the days of old people that had skills were fed and kept alive...because you were useful and could make things....build things or do all the back breaking work of planting and harvesting....