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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77638899 United States 05/18/2019 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Now somebody says, “Does the sentence really fit the crime?” Well we’re thinking rationally for a minute. Well the lawgiver determines that, doesn’t he? The law giver determines that. the law that is written determines the extent of the crime and what is a fitting punishment for the crime and God has determined that the crime is heinous enough that it should be judged in this way. And that is always the hurdle that people have trouble getting over. How can a temporal sin or sins result in an eternal punishment? It seems excessive. Let me help you with that. The amount of time that a sinner sins is irrelevant. If the sinner dies at fifteen-years-old; thirty-five or a hundred and ten; the amount of time a sinner sins is irrelevant. Crimes against the infinitely holy and exalted God are infinitely wicked and the punishment fits the crime. Infinite crimes against an infinite God deserve an infinite punishment. And here’s the key. Sinners who go to hell never repent. They never repent. They continue to rebel. Every description of hell indicates to us that it is…listen carefully…it is not a remedial experience. It is not remedial justice. It is retributive justice. They remain God-haters forever so that the punishment never catches up with the sin. Understand that? It’s really important. In hell they continue to hate God. In hell they continue to curse God. In hell they continue to mock God and blaspheme God and hate Christ. So the punishment never catches up to the sin because the sinning never, ever, ever ceases. You understand that, that’s really important. People don’t go to hell and then never sin forever and just get punished forever. They go to hell and keep on sinning forever, so the punishment can never catch up with the wretchedness. That is why the Bible in Mark 3 describes this as eternal sin…as eternal sin. Let me tell you something. I believe that sinners are more sinful in hell than they were on earth because their sin on earth is mitigated to some degree, necessarily mitigated. Everybody can’t be as wicked as he would choose to be here because there are consequences. There are restraints. There are expectations. But in hell, there are none. Everybody is as evil as he can be. In Jude 7 it says that they undergo a punishment of eternal fire. And this judgment, according to verse 15, is on the ungodly for all their ungodly deeds which they’ve done in an ungodly way and all the harsh things the ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. The word ungodly is used repeatedly there and when they get to hell, they’re just as ungodly as they ever were, in fact more so in that environment without constraint and continue to be punished because they continue everlastingly their rebellion." "Hell is not remedial. It has no remedial effect. They will remain forever rebellious, God-haters, lovers of sin, blasphemers of the Holy Spirit, and rejecters of the Lord Jesus Christ. If there is any satisfaction in hell, if there is any fulfillment of anything in hell, is that they can be as wicked as they want to be without restraint because no influence of God is there. So the theological issue is an important one. Hell is for those who hate God. They act against His mercy. They act against His grace. They act against His holiness. They act against the sovereignty. They act against His glory. And they will continue to do so forever." [link to www.gty.org (secure)] |
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Militant Bitch User ID: 7740059 United States 05/18/2019 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hell only exists for those who send themselves there .. it mostly is not existent but if one truly believes they are going to hell then they will be in the hell they thought about. Now this is going to piss you off but hell actually has nothing to do with God. |
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rewind User ID: 7740059 United States 05/18/2019 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hell only exists for those who send themselves there .. it mostly is not existent but if one truly believes they are going to hell then they will be in the hell they thought about. Quoting: rewind Now this is going to piss you off but hell actually has nothing to do with God. You hate God.. I do not you don't know mw so quit it. |
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Militant Bitch User ID: 7740059 United States 05/18/2019 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hell only exists for those who send themselves there .. it mostly is not existent but if one truly believes they are going to hell then they will be in the hell they thought about. Quoting: rewind Now this is going to piss you off but hell actually has nothing to do with God. You hate God.. wrong.. you must think you know it all when you can't even consider another suggestion? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77638899 United States 05/18/2019 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hell only exists for those who send themselves there .. it mostly is not existent but if one truly believes they are going to hell then they will be in the hell they thought about. Quoting: rewind Now this is going to piss you off but hell actually has nothing to do with God. You hate God.. wrong.. you must think you know it all when you can't even consider another suggestion? Do you believe in God? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77349451 Canada 05/18/2019 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell is for those who hate God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77638899 "What are we talking about? What is it we want people saved from? That is the compelling question. The answer to that question, as far as Scripture is concerned, is a simple answer. We want to see people saved from eternal punishment, punishment that never ends. Conscious existence, conscious life in a body resurrected and suited for everlasting punishment. The Bible speaks of that as occurring in a place that we know as hell. In the Old Testament, the word Sheol makes reference to that in a general way. In the New Testament, the word Hades is sometimes with reference to that. But always the word hell coming from the Greek word Gehenna speaks of what the book of Revelation calls this Lake of Fire where people are punished and tormented forever. I think we sort of comfortably distance ourselves from that reality. Certainly in general in the church it is looked over, passed by, ignored. There are those who claim to be preachers who don’t ever talk about hell, wouldn’t talk about hell, avoid it at all costs, when the truth of the matter is, it ought to be the first thing that we talk about when we talk about the gospel. This is about salvation from hell. The doctrine of hell, the truth of hell, the reality of hell has found its way into the thinking of our culture. According to the latest survey that I could find, seventy-five percent of people living in America believe in hell. They believe there’s a hell. That’s the influence of Christianity, 75 percent. Of those 75 percent, four percent believe there is any chance that they will ever go there. So we’ve gotten our point across. There is a hell. But we haven’t gotten the point across that you’re headed there already. That’s the issue." The Truth About Hell (Selected Scriptures) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.gty.org (secure)] hell is for those that hurt children |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7740059 United States 05/18/2019 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hell only exists for those who send themselves there .. it mostly is not existent but if one truly believes they are going to hell then they will be in the hell they thought about. Quoting: rewind Now this is going to piss you off but hell actually has nothing to do with God. You hate God.. wrong.. you must think you know it all when you can't even consider another suggestion? Do you believe in God? Yes I have Jesus in my Heart and God is with me. I thank daily for my life and life, if you must know? |
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Militant Bitch User ID: 7740059 United States 05/18/2019 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong.. you must think you know it all when you can't even consider another suggestion? Do you believe in God? Yes I have Jesus in my Heart and God is with me. I thank daily for my life and life, if you must know? that's me. I was browsing unsigned.. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77638899 United States 05/19/2019 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: rewind wrong.. you must think you know it all when you can't even consider another suggestion? Do you believe in God? Yes I have Jesus in my Heart and God is with me. I thank daily for my life and life, if you must know? that's me. I was browsing unsigned.. "Yes, Jesus was a hell-fire preacher. When we talk about salvation, the word has to be used…the word has to be used because we’re talking about rescue. Salvation is a word that means deliverance or rescue and the question is…from what? Contemporary kind of corrupted Christianity would offer many psychological and even material substitutes for hell. We would say, “Well, Jesus wants to save me from loneliness or He wants to save you from purposelessness, or He wants to save you from anxiety, or He wants to save you from poverty, or He wants to save you from failure, or He wants to save you from sickness, or He wants to save you from disappointment. No, no, He desires to save you from hell, from the fiery hell, the lake of fire that is eternal. The message of Scripture is that salvation is a rescue, a rescue from a real place called hell." Quoting: shoeshy "This is not new. This is what the Bible has said. You can go back to Moses. You can go back to the Pentateuch, the first section of books in the Bible. In Deuteronomy 32:22, it reads this way in the Authorized Version, “A fire is kindled…says God…in my anger and burns to the lowest part of hell.” The 1611 King James version made it clear even that early that the anger of God reached into hell. Our Lord’s first New Testament sermon was a sermon on hell. Jesus is a hell-fire preacher. I hear people say, “Well I don’t want to talk about hell, that’s very negative.” Jesus was a hell-fire preacher. Matthew 5, His first sermon as laid out in the New Testament, verse 22 of chapter 5 of Matthew, “I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be guilty before the court and whoever says to his brother, you good for nothing, shall be guilty before the Supreme Court and whoever says, You fool, shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.” Here is Jesus arriving in Jerusalem and beginning the first part of His ministry, then going up to Galilee and finishing off His ministry and wherever He went He was a preacher of hell. The Sermon on the Mount happens to be given on a hillside in Galilee. He speaks of the fiery hell as if He assumed that everybody knew about it, He doesn’t have to give them a definition or a description, it was a very well-known part of their biblical understanding." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77660179 Australia 05/19/2019 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allah...."Serve ME or I burn you alive forever" Born again God.."NO..serve ME or I burn you alive forever" JW God.."NO..serve ME..OR I KILL YOU ALL" (Not into torture) Mormon God.."Nah..SERVE ME..or you will end up in the telestial plane with other maggots like yourself forever" Baptist God "Serve ME or I BURN YOU ALIVE" Catholic God "NO..serve ME..or I will have you TORTURED in sadistic ways FOREVER..and even if you DO serve me you STILL have to get tortured in purgatory for a while..cause I LOVE to inflict AGONYYYYY" Satan "Serve ME..or NOT...as I dont GIVE a shit" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77662811 United States 05/19/2019 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Word of God, Jesus Christ, Almighty God, stepped off the throne of Heaven to provide Salvation to man. Salvation from WHAT? Eternal separation from HIM. Philippians 2 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. God CAN do no more. God WILL do no more. If you reject what Jesus did FOR YOU at Calvary, you will join Satan and his rebel angels, and all of lost humanity in the Lake of Fire. That is GOD THE CREATOR OF ALL THAT IS, it is HIS Judgment, and he cannot lie. If you want to stand up to the OMNISCIENT OMNIPOTENT Lord of ALL, you will have your opportunity at the Great White Throne Judgment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77660179 Australia 05/19/2019 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Life is in a fallen state 'experiment', where the experimenter already KNEW the result - something like >90% will fail that experiment and will get tortured in everlasting agony for the amusement of the remaining <10%. Whoever remembers that they actually volunteered to take part in this deadly 'experiment', can raise their hands! Even more so, the Experimenter initially created Angels, KNOWING that 1/3 of them will rebel, and put Solar system to waste during their rebelion (just look at Mars, and satellites of some planets). He couldn't just simply exterminate the Fallen Angels on spot, no, he had to create some several hundred billions of humans as CANNON FODDER in his war vs the Fallen Angels to prove some infi-dimensional POINT in this unique "court case". That he can pretty much afford to create billions upon billions of souls just to torture them forever as spoils of war none of them wanted to be any part of. But after all, the Fallen Angels got taught a lesson! So any other creatures of the Universe(s) better not even dare to rebel, or ELSE some other trillion of souls will be created explicitly for eternal suffering! |
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