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Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?

 
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Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
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Historian Dan Gibson points out several facts - including that the oldest surviving mosques point towards Petra.

Quran doesn't mention Mecca - and there are no archaeological remains around Mecca either.

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Just wind them up and they'll bow down anywhere
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Inb4 delete, ban,
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It's what you get for being off-topic.

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
didn't the muslimes have some of the Petra buildings destroyed a few years ago?
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
didn't the muslimes have some of the Petra buildings destroyed a few years ago?
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Not that I'm aware of.

Palmyra though

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
The Kansas was the center of b'Alla worship
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Interesting.
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can any muslim AC here debunk that video? this is insane.n please debunk it.
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can any muslim AC here debunk that video? this is insane.n please debunk it.
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You can believe anything you want, but if you want facts maybe take the time and look at actual historical research by real scholars who are fluent in the local languages:

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
Here is the playlist of the entire discussion of the historical research into the beginning of Islam.

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
I think it is pretty obvious Petra was built by Rome.
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The Qur'an is fake news.
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
towards Jerusalem and the temple mount originaly
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5*'s

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
Here is the playlist of the entire discussion of the historical research into the beginning of Islam.

And the truth shall set you free...but first it will rock your world



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71540931


Unknown history of Islam 04 and 05 discusses the Qibla problem. 04 also talks about the problem with Mecca.

Please take the time to watch all of the videos in the series. This is solid historical research - facts are facts.

The question is why Jerusalem Qibla, why Petra?

Watch the series...
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Bump for later
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bump to see the videos. Does Petra have any mosques or early religious buildings?
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
towards Jerusalem and the temple mount originaly
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Wasn't that in hopes of getting Jevvishes to convert to Islam?
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
No.
Muslims first prayed towards Jerusalem, same direction in relation to Saudi deserts as Petra.

Muhamad tried to convince the Jewish people that they should convert, so he tried to cater to them, but after they had refused, he slaughtered them and then changed the direction of prayer to Mecca to respect the center of pagan worship in ancient Arabia.
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can any muslim AC here debunk that video? this is insane.n please debunk it.
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do you only want comments from a fellow muslime?


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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
One religion's infidels are another religion's faithful - think about that for a moment!

Since God is the creator of ALL that is, there can only be one God - think about that for a moment! No matter in what name you worship! And realize how you live and what you do, how you treat all living beings is the highest form of worship. ALL is God's creation and none of us have the right to disrespect, harm or even destroy it. 24/7, 365 days a year - think about that for a moment!

If you can really wrap your mind around this you can't help but realize that defaming people who have a different way of worship, hating them, enslaving them and worse in the name of God only divorces you from all that is sacred and holy!

Persisting in this behavior once you know different and excusing these behaviors by claiming that God 'commands' it actually amounts to blasphemy. Or you follow a 'fake' god who is sadistic, unjust and a liar.

Having studied many belief systems ancient and modern there are many ideas about the nature of the Divine that are held in common going back as far back as we have records. It will tell you much about why we are here, what is holy and sacred - try it!

This is true religion or more aptly called true spirituality!

Your mind will open and your horizons will expand to the cosmos even beyond time!

For real!
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
2 versions of a presentation by Jay Smith.

The first one is 1 hour 10 mins, the second is 1 hour 39 mins


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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
One religion's infidels are another religion's faithful - think about that for a moment!

Since God is the creator of ALL that is, there can only be one God - think about that for a moment! No matter in what name you worship! And realize how you live and what you do, how you treat all living beings is the highest form of worship. ALL is God's creation and none of us have the right to disrespect, harm or even destroy it. 24/7, 365 days a year - think about that for a moment!

If you can really wrap your mind around this you can't help but realize that defaming people who have a different way of worship, hating them, enslaving them and worse in the name of God only divorces you from all that is sacred and holy!

Persisting in this behavior once you know different and excusing these behaviors by claiming that God 'commands' it actually amounts to blasphemy. Or you follow a 'fake' god who is sadistic, unjust and a liar.

Having studied many belief systems ancient and modern there are many ideas about the nature of the Divine that are held in common going back as far back as we have records. It will tell you much about why we are here, what is holy and sacred - try it!

This is true religion or more aptly called true spirituality!

Your mind will open and your horizons will expand to the cosmos even beyond time!

For real!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71540931


What you purpose is that God has no name and never spoke to us, never revealed himself to us in truth, that there is no truth, that a cult based on un truths is of God...

For the works of Islam (literature) are not accurate or truth then you suggest that the truth does not matter. We have a name for a god* (not God) that would have you believe worshiping and adhering to lies is OK.

Ishmael and Hagar. Look into them.
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
This guy claims there isn't near enough evidence.

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
A couple of vids by Dan Gibson


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Good thread OP!

Very interesting. 5*
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Mohammed married into money and wow was he slap happy!
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Good thread OP!

Very interesting. 5*
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Thanks cheers
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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
I think it is pretty obvious Petra was built by Rome.
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Interesting comment. I study Ancient Rome quite a bit and I only know they built roads around there.

I’m going to dig in on this and see what I can find out!

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Re: Muslims Originally Bowed and Prayed Towards...Petra!?
can any muslim AC here debunk that video? this is insane.n please debunk it.
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You can believe anything you want, but if you want facts maybe take the time and look at actual historical research by real scholars who are fluent in the local languages:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71540931


History of rag heads walking around in a ghost costume..

they worship a meteorite

insanity





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