House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions

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House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions
Coastie Patriot User ID: 1567170 United States 06/04/2019 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions Battle rages over whether U.S. census-takers can ask people if they're citizens Trump admininstration wants the question back in, for the first time in decades Democrats press the issue in court saying Hispanics will be afraid to participate, leaving their communities under-served with federal money and influence House Democrats are tired of waiting for Justice and Commerce Departments to hand over subpoenaed documents about how and why the move happened They will hold Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt for refusing to comply; it's a political move without real consequences House Democrats are moving to hold Trump administration officials in contempt of Congress for failing to comply with subpoenas for documents related to the Trump administration's decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census. Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said the panel will vote soon on contempt measures for Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross unless specific documents are received by Thursday. A contempt vote by the committee would be an escalation of Democratic efforts to use their majority to aggressively investigate the inner workings of President Donald Trump's administration. The House Judiciary Committee voted last month to hold Barr in contempt of Congress as part of a separate legal battle with the Trump administration over access to special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. daily mail less 50 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Coastie Patriot SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!! Dr Thaddeus They They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth." Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake. Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.- X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. -SHANE- Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington- to grow up remembering th My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!! Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales

Anonymous Coward User ID: 77703716 United States 06/04/2019 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions they mad
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77703716 United States 06/04/2019 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions I hearby hold all Congress members in contempt
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26309361 United States 06/04/2019 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions they mad Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77703716 Yeah & they’re weaponizing their positions. Trying to work outside of the DOJ. Pelosi is setting her members up with new & expanded powers with the outside help of lawfare. Elijah Cummings gets a system to target Trump, his family, and all members of the executive branch. She set up internal House division of lawyers, paid with taxpayer funds, to defend Obamacare against any adverse action. From article: Pelosi and the Lawfare group are avoiding a criminal contempt process because that would require the DOJ to participate. Instead lawyers working on behalf of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, HPSCI Chairman Schiff, and/or White House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings will sue the Trump administration in civil court. If they can win a civil award (they will carefully select the judge) Pelosi and Nadler can start issuing civil fines for contempt against individual cabinet members. Adam Schiff has previously stated his recommended target amount would be $25,000 per day/per person. Speaker Pelosi is creating her own mini DOJ (the Lawfare alliance) inside the legislative branch. And, with additional investigative powers granted to House committees, we might even see a mini-FBI units, dispatched to conduct investigations, accountable only to speaker Pelosi. Heck, considering congress already has subpoena power, there’s no telling where this might end.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26309361 United States 06/04/2019 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions they mad Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77703716 Yeah & they’re weaponizing their positions. Trying to work outside of the DOJ. Pelosi is setting her members up with new & expanded powers with the outside help of lawfare. Elijah Cummings gets a system to target Trump, his family, and all members of the executive branch. She set up internal House division of lawyers, paid with taxpayer funds, to defend Obamacare against any adverse action. From article: Pelosi and the Lawfare group are avoiding a criminal contempt process because that would require the DOJ to participate. Instead lawyers working on behalf of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, HPSCI Chairman Schiff, and/or White House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings will sue the Trump administration in civil court. If they can win a civil award (they will carefully select the judge) Pelosi and Nadler can start issuing civil fines for contempt against individual cabinet members. Adam Schiff has previously stated his recommended target amount would be $25,000 per day/per person. Speaker Pelosi is creating her own mini DOJ (the Lawfare alliance) inside the legislative branch. And, with additional investigative powers granted to House committees, we might even see a mini-FBI units, dispatched to conduct investigations, accountable only to speaker Pelosi. Heck, considering congress already has subpoena power, there’s no telling where this might end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26309361 Link... [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77703716 United States 06/04/2019 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions they mad Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77703716 Yeah & they’re weaponizing their positions. Trying to work outside of the DOJ. Pelosi is setting her members up with new & expanded powers with the outside help of lawfare. Elijah Cummings gets a system to target Trump, his family, and all members of the executive branch. She set up internal House division of lawyers, paid with taxpayer funds, to defend Obamacare against any adverse action. From article: Pelosi and the Lawfare group are avoiding a criminal contempt process because that would require the DOJ to participate. Instead lawyers working on behalf of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, HPSCI Chairman Schiff, and/or White House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings will sue the Trump administration in civil court. If they can win a civil award (they will carefully select the judge) Pelosi and Nadler can start issuing civil fines for contempt against individual cabinet members. Adam Schiff has previously stated his recommended target amount would be $25,000 per day/per person. Speaker Pelosi is creating her own mini DOJ (the Lawfare alliance) inside the legislative branch. And, with additional investigative powers granted to House committees, we might even see a mini-FBI units, dispatched to conduct investigations, accountable only to speaker Pelosi. Heck, considering congress already has subpoena power, there’s no telling where this might end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26309361 Link... [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26309361 Not to fear. MAGA patriots will pay Trump's cabinet members' fines with ammo.
Coastie Patriot (OP) User ID: 1567170 United States 06/04/2019 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: House Democrats move to hold Bill Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt for refusing to hand over documents in probe of Census citizenship questions I hearby hold all Congress members in contempt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77703716 actually a good theory, lets recall all of them !!!! Coastie Patriot SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!! Dr Thaddeus They They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth." Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake. Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.- X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. -SHANE- Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington- to grow up remembering th My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!! Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales

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