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a P.O. box and checks
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That doesn't solve the problem.

They will see what bank you deposit the checks into and shut you down.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Well there is a real opportunity here for a Jeff Bezos kinda person to break away, be brave and start an alternative payment process biz
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We need a detailed list of these companies
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i thought Trump said he was going to stop this persecution of Conservatives.
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Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places.

A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below:


We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US.

Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue.

Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos.

However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should.

While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority.

We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served.

At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual.

We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made.

If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected]

Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer!

Sincerely,

Illuminent


I'll update this if they get any processors lined up.
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Time to start flooding Trumps email with this stuff its going to get worse and worse
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Here's a not TOO far fetched idea...

Get ordained through Universal Life Church or Universal Ministries (if you haven't already). Get 501(c)3 nonprofit status for your "Trinity Church" which is online-based... you already have an ENORMOUS congregation, worldwide. Call it "An organized religion of all religions or the lack thereof". Cue the motivational cat poster "BELIEVE".

Banks would be hard-pressed to discriminate against a documented religious organization as you would then have the ACLU's attention.
 Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice


I know TWO people who have done this very thing

 Quoting: beeches


All them 501s got letters in 10 from fema to control their flocks during martial law n to help confiscate guns dumbass. Govt owns u on 501. Theyll make Said church go satanic. Thats lucis trust mission n united nations mission. Look it up.

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This bullshit is beyond infuriating - it's blatant discrimination.

Perhaps, as another poster suggested, put the God into Godlike and turn this online library into a religious organization. Father Trinity has a nice ring to it and most of us come to the church of GLP everyday. chuckle

Huffington ComPost did an article on just how easy it is to start your own church (-50%)
It’s Surprisingly Easy To Start Your Own Church

To make his point, Oliver started his very own tax-exempt church and declared himself “megareverend” ...

That shouldn’t be too hard. The IRS also states that your church must have some combination of the following:

Distinct legal existence (Oliver registered his “church” as a nonprofit corporation in Texas.)

Recognized creed and form of worship (For this, Oliver invited his audience to “meditate on the nature of fraudulent churches.”)

Definite and distinct ecclesiastical government

Distinct religious history

Formal code of doctrine and discipline

Membership not associated with any other church or denomination

Established place of worship (In the case of Oliver’s church, that’s the “Last Week Tonight” studio.)

Regular services (“Last Week Tonight” convenes every Sunday.)

Ordained, commissioned or licensed ministers

Schools for the preparation of its ministers

Literature of its own...

link: [link to www.huffpost.com (secure)]

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it doesn't make sense, they sell cbd oil on amazon and Walmart (as well as other sites) with no problem
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Kratom companies have been going through the same issues.

The companies that they want to shut down are having the most problems finding payment processors now.

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Trin... In good humor... Why not accept crypto, set up a DBA for something like a handyman business, transfer the crypto by direct deposit into the checking account of said shell business?
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Not all of us have or use cryptos, I suspect.
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We need a detailed list of these companies
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You'll see all of these issues disappear as soon as the pharma giants and Bayer?Monsanto have consolidated their grip on the entire cannabis industry.
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That probably REALLY IS the goal.
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They will see what bank you deposit the checks into and shut you down.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Trinity, recently you had a processor involved and were nearing completion readying it for use here, only a few days away. Did that one fall through also? If so, was it because of another bank's refusal?
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The banksters are preparing something very bad for us ordinary people. Just a thought from an old fool.
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I have no doubt that the banksters are being pressured by Big Pharma - since CBD oil and other things cut into their profits.

Also has to do with the Deep State / NWO.

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The banksters are preparing something very bad for us ordinary people. Just a thought from an old fool.
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We need to be thoughtful of what we buy via check or debit card, certainly. We could find ourselves unbanked. Sad world.
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Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places.

A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below:


We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US.

Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue.

Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos.

However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should.

While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority.

We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served.

At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual.

We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made.

If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected]

Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer!

Sincerely,

Illuminent


I'll update this if they get any processors lined up.
 Quoting: Deplorable Mary


You know what the answer is to all these kinds of issues?

Go back to the way things were done before payapl and credit cards. Send a check in the mail or send it COD. People made millions doing business like this for over 100 years.
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What an opportunity for a small bank to create it's own payment processing venue and service a growing group.
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One major thing that drives all these obvious elite agendas is the elimination of all elite-owned competition:


End-around banning of CBD oil (via dropped payment processors).

End-around banning of non-globalist free speech (FB, Twitter censorship, payment processor refusals, ..).

End-around banning of firearms-ownership (ad hoc FFs to target specific guns, ammo, products).

End-round banning of resistance to Global Governance (forced Earth-ssving Carbon Tax).

Et al...
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One major thing that drives all these obvious elite agendas is the elimination of the elite's-owned competition:


End-around banning of CBD oil (via dropped payment processors).

End-around banning of non-globalist free speech (FB, Twitter censorship, payment processor refusals, ..).

End-around banning of firearms-ownership (ad hoc FFs to target specific guns, ammo, products).

End-round banning of resistance to Global Governance (forced Earth-ssving Carbon Tax).

Et al...
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[correction]
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a P.O. box and checks
 Quoting: beeches


That doesn't solve the problem.

They will see what bank you deposit the checks into and shut you down.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I think it is time for me to start a payment processing company, clearing house and bank that handles these types of businesses. Oh and a great ACLU attorney to help handle the legal fallout.
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The banksters are preparing something very bad for us ordinary people. Just a thought from an old fool.
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We need to be thoughtful of what we buy via check or debit card, certainly. We could find ourselves unbanked. Sad world.
 Quoting: Pooka


Accept 'The Mark of the(their) Beast' or you will be unable to buy or sell.

They are slowly making this the new reality...
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would they go after deposits made for a foundation

The GLP Foundation!
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Yes you need a shell company. Big corps do this all the time.
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Here's a not TOO far fetched idea...

Get ordained through Universal Life Church or Universal Ministries (if you haven't already). Get 501(c)3 nonprofit status for your "Trinity Church" which is online-based... you already have an ENORMOUS congregation, worldwide. Call it "An organized religion of all religions or the lack thereof". Cue the motivational cat poster "BELIEVE".

Banks would be hard-pressed to discriminate against a documented religious organization as you would then have the ACLU's attention.
 Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice


I know TWO people who have done this very thing

 Quoting: beeches


All them 501s got letters in 10 from fema to control their flocks during martial law n to help confiscate guns dumbass. Govt owns u on 501. Theyll make Said church go satanic. Thats lucis trust mission n united nations mission. Look it up.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I will !

A church does not need to seek 501 status.

Neither of the people I know who became ordained with Universal Life got letters like that, because they did not seek 501 status.
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Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places.

A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below:


We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US.

Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue.

Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos.

However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should.

While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority.

We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served.

At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual.

We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made.

If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected]

Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer!

Sincerely,

Illuminent


I'll update this if they get any processors lined up.
 Quoting: Deplorable Mary


Here's the thing. It is against federal law, but they let states regulate the legality if it in each state, and as far as I know it is legal in all 50.
I think part of the issue is that CBD oil helps so many people, and someone like myself that was paying almost $200.00 a month in prescription Co pays, not to mention what the insurance was paying (one the Co pay was $800.00 but the drug company gave me a waiver). I now pay about $60 a month. No prescriptions. Someone is losing a lot of money on me, and think about how many people manage to get off the poison and chemicals. That's part of it.

But I'm pissed that payment processors have become so damned discriminating. They make money from every single person and business the process payments for.
They are being told not to. Just another way for the left to gain control.
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Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places.

A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below:


We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US.

Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue.

Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos.

However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should.

While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority.

We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served.

At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual.

We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made.

If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected]

Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer!

Sincerely,

Illuminent


I'll update this if they get any processors lined up.
 Quoting: Deplorable Mary


This needs to be taken to court. A brief analysis is that is this a violation of the Commerce Clause under the Constitution and would not sustain constitutional scrutiny. That is only one way to legally. If upheld, that would end this behavior.
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We need to be thoughtful of what we buy via check or debit card, certainly. We could find ourselves unbanked. Sad world.
 Quoting: Pooka


Accept 'The Mark of the(their) Beast' or you will be unable to buy or sell.

They are slowly making this the new reality...
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It is creeping on sooner than I expected, and it's very frightening to consider the end of this particular rabbit hole.
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We need to be thoughtful of what we buy via check or debit card, certainly. We could find ourselves unbanked. Sad world.
 Quoting: Pooka


Accept 'The Mark of the(their) Beast' or you will be unable to buy or sell.

They are slowly making this the new reality...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75651875


It is creeping on sooner than I expected, and it's very frightening to consider the end of this particular rabbit hole.
 Quoting: Pooka


Yes it is.
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a P.O. box and checks
 Quoting: beeches


That doesn't solve the problem.

They will see what bank you deposit the checks into and shut you down.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Well there is a real opportunity here for a Jeff Bezos kinda person to break away, be brave and start an alternative payment process biz
 Quoting: Accalia


Yes, but that person would soon become targeted by the elite cabal.
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The medical marijuana dispensaries in Florida only deal in Cash or CanPay. It's an extreme pain in the ass...I wonder what they are doing with all that cash?
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How much dosh does it take to start a bank?
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The medical marijuana dispensaries in Florida only deal in Cash or CanPay. It's an extreme pain in the ass...I wonder what they are doing with all that cash?
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It is my understanding the dispensaries in all states where Marijuana is legal take only cash.





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