More Payment Processors Withdrawing/Refusing Service | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73951674 United States 06/05/2019 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name |
Polyethylene pam
User ID: 23615726 United States 06/05/2019 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places. Quoting: Deplorable Mary A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below: We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US. Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue. Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos. However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should. While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority. We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served. At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual. We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made. If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected] Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer! Sincerely, Illuminent I'll update this if they get any processors lined up. So how do you renew your subscription? Mine lapsed.. |
Deplorable Mary
(OP) User ID: 75503266 United States 06/05/2019 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places. Quoting: Deplorable Mary A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below: We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US. Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue. Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos. However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should. While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority. We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served. At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual. We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made. If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected] Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer! Sincerely, Illuminent I'll update this if they get any processors lined up. So how do you renew your subscription? Mine lapsed.. You can't for now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72059032 United States 06/05/2019 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77512264 United States 06/05/2019 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cash doesn't matter - being accepted by the banking community does. If you don't agree with them on politics, you are not participating in transactions with them. Banks are quite a bit more sinister than even governments. So is a branch of the government deciding this for the banks? |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 06/05/2019 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How long until banks begin to refuse to process checks for their customers they disapprove of? How long until the local banks start closing those people's accounts? Not buying or selling without the mark of the beast seems to be looming ahead. While Trump seems to be ignoring the situation. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Old Lady User ID: 71542980 United States 06/05/2019 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75651875 United States 06/05/2019 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cash doesn't matter - being accepted by the banking community does. If you don't agree with them on politics, you are not participating in transactions with them. Banks are quite a bit more sinister than even governments. Yup. The central bankers OWN the governments of this world. He who has the gold (and the power to print money) makes the rules. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75651875 United States 06/05/2019 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cash doesn't matter - being accepted by the banking community does. If you don't agree with them on politics, you are not participating in transactions with them. Banks are quite a bit more sinister than even governments. So is a branch of the government deciding this for the banks? The government WORKS FOR/is OWNED BY the banks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77533830 France 06/05/2019 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76918744 United States 06/05/2019 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ElleMira
User ID: 76494359 United States 06/05/2019 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The banksters are preparing something very bad for us ordinary people. Just a thought from an old fool. Quoting: old boy george We need to be thoughtful of what we buy via check or debit card, certainly. We could find ourselves unbanked. Sad world. Accept 'The Mark of the(their) Beast' or you will be unable to buy or sell. They are slowly making this the new reality... Yes, this^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76694357 United States 06/05/2019 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a not TOO far fetched idea... Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice Get ordained through Universal Life Church or Universal Ministries (if you haven't already). Get 501(c)3 nonprofit status for your "Trinity Church" which is online-based... you already have an ENORMOUS congregation, worldwide. Call it "An organized religion of all religions or the lack thereof". Cue the motivational cat poster "BELIEVE". Banks would be hard-pressed to discriminate against a documented religious organization as you would then have the ACLU's attention. If you haven't already |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 06/05/2019 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maaybe this isn't coming from self-righteous, crusading, libtard do-gooder banksters. Maaybe it's coming from the source above them all. Maybe with the power to loan the banks money, on a daily basis. The FEDERAL RESERVE. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
PhewToo
User ID: 74862477 United Kingdom 06/05/2019 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson not investigating the creation of a separate pay platform? I have not heard much about that since it was floated as an idea some months ago though. A desire to remain outside of the media game show is necessary if one wishes to retain independence of thoughts and actions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11379909 United States 06/05/2019 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 06/05/2019 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Distinct religious history Formal code of doctrine and discipline Membership not associated with any other church or denomination Established place of worship (In the case of Oliver’s church, that’s the “Last Week Tonight” studio.) Regular services (“Last Week Tonight” convenes every Sunday.) Ordained, commissioned or licensed ministers Schools for the preparation of its ministers Literature of its own... I like it. Can I be a Deacon? I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 06/05/2019 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 06/05/2019 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77653882 United States 06/05/2019 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77705018 Japan 06/05/2019 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77698540 United States 06/05/2019 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76790158 United States 06/05/2019 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only are they hitting Trinity and sites like this as well as other conservative news sites and forums, they are going after more places. Quoting: Deplorable Mary A friend of mine sells CBD oil through this company. I have purchased from it many times. I got this email and now apparently, no one is wanting to process payments for these businesses, and I'm sure this isn't the only one. Your money is becoming no good for many things unless it fits in with an agenda. Copied body of the email below: We are writing to inform you of the recent issues that Illuminent has been facing in regards to our payment gateway. Unfortunately, our payment gateway has been shut down. This is an issue that many CBD companies are currently facing in the US. Although hemp and CBD products are federally legal, banks across the country have been refusing to accept payments made in exchange for these products. These banks are researching all of their client accounts, and closing business with those who produce/sell hemp and CBD products. Unfortunately, we are now one of the businesses dealing with this issue. Currently, there are two domestic banks in the US that are accepting hemp products. As you can imagine, however, they are being flooded with companies facing the same issues as we are. Having been anticipating this issue for some time, we have been working with these banks for months now in hopes of switching our payment gateway to be run through them. The hope was that we would be accepted by one of these banks prior to facing a gateway shut down, and thus circumvent all the ensuing chaos. However, this work takes time. These banks are not approving accounts in a timely manner. With the rush that these banks are currently facing, the process is taking much longer than it should. While there are offshore banks available, Illuminent refuses to cut corners and work with offshore banking systems. We are American based. Our products are proudly American based. Our banks are American based. We refuse to place money and private payment information at risk by moving offshore. You are our priority. We are not breaking any laws, nor are we causing any harm. We are simply seeking to conduct our business ethically and responsibly, in hopes of supporting access to products that promote health and general well-being for all. And we will continue fighting for justice around hemp until justice is served. At this point, we are doing all that we can do to resolve this issue. We have our team working around the clock, with absolute confidence that we will find a solution. We want you to know that we are working tirelessly to return to business as usual. We appreciate your patience in the interim. And we will, of course, keep you informed as progress is made. If you attempted to process an order last night and your order was declined. We would love to assist you with processing your order. Please reach out to [email protected] Thank you for being a loyal Illuminent Customer! Sincerely, Illuminent I'll update this if they get any processors lined up. I sell them locally at all my medical offices. They all pay 100% cash for them. No issues. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77698540 United States 06/05/2019 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends on what kind of crypto the seller would accept. Like at takes bch now. You would buy bch from an exchange, transfer to your wallet and spend it it through whatever crypto payment processor the site uses. Similar to a prepaid credit card wherever that crypto is accepted. And if it isnt accepted you can trade it for one that is. |
Pooka
User ID: 77665716 United States 06/05/2019 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why the fuck would we have to pay to use a website? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77705018 fuck the internet if that is what its about i don't need it Do you believe this website is free to the owner? You may wish to research things like domain registration, band width, and other parts of the cost of having a website. Since the owner has to pay for all the things which make this website possible, why should we not have to pay because we use it? Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73724632 United States 06/05/2019 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That doesn't solve the problem. They will see what bank you deposit the checks into and shut you down. can you explain the process a bit? who is "they", precisely? do they go after all deposits you may make, or only ones for a hypothetical online forum, like GLP? this is of major interest to many of us some of us have dealings with paypal et al outside of GLP, not as payors but as vendors someone suggested vennmo They is the banks themselves, beeches. Apparently it's gone beyond intermediaries like PayPal or even business cards like Mastercard/Visa, right down to the actual banks. This would be like Bank of America, Santander, whatever. The problem seems to be that they are denying these businesses accounts to work with. I wonder if they would be better off with credit unions. Or maybe these businesses have to band together and start their own financial services. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73724632 United States 06/05/2019 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why the fuck would we have to pay to use a website? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77705018 fuck the internet if that is what its about i don't need it Do you believe this website is free to the owner? You may wish to research things like domain registration, band width, and other parts of the cost of having a website. Since the owner has to pay for all the things which make this website possible, why should we not have to pay because we use it? I personally don't object to paying to use a site - I object to the banning that comes about, usually through no reason, just to force you to pay to even view the site. If the owner wants to state that you can't view or participate in the site without paying, that would be his right. The other thing is, many people have also been banned as paying members because they posted something that was unpopular. That's wrong too. |
Paranoiaaaaa
Butters User ID: 75580153 United States 06/05/2019 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why the fuck would we have to pay to use a website? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77705018 fuck the internet if that is what its about i don't need it Do you believe this website is free to the owner? You may wish to research things like domain registration, band width, and other parts of the cost of having a website. Since the owner has to pay for all the things which make this website possible, why should we not have to pay because we use it? I personally don't object to paying to use a site - I object to the banning that comes about, usually through no reason, just to force you to pay to even view the site. If the owner wants to state that you can't view or participate in the site without paying, that would be his right. The other thing is, many people have also been banned as paying members because they posted something that was unpopular. That's wrong too. So don't pay, you don't have to. That's not the point here. Many of us would like to support this site. The payment processors are not allowing us to do so. We should be able to support whoever we want with our money. "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77706809 Philippines 06/05/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63928440 United States 06/05/2019 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christianity, A MAJOR World Religion is persecuted and discriminated against. Why would they be hard pressed to discriminate against an online Religion? Here's a not TOO far fetched idea... Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice Get ordained through Universal Life Church or Universal Ministries (if you haven't already). Get 501(c)3 nonprofit status for your "Trinity Church" which is online-based... you already have an ENORMOUS congregation, worldwide. Call it "An organized religion of all religions or the lack thereof". Cue the motivational cat poster "BELIEVE". Banks would be hard-pressed to discriminate against a documented religious organization as you would then have the ACLU's attention. |