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Lily o' the Valley  (OP)

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Disagree. Jesus grew up as a carpenter. It all gets back to one's upbringing. I've observed many bus drivers over the years. A good many aren't up to the task, most are average to good, and then there are those who let the job go to their heads. The latter act like airline pilots . . . those are the ones you have to watch . . . especially when they get on the microphone and indicate that the oxygen masks will soon be deploying. ; )



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Look at Maduro from Venezuela. Before becoming president he was a bus driver. A good bus driver is needed. But one cannot put a bus driver to govern a nation. One cannot put a Medical Doctor to build a house or a builder to do surgery. Get my drift? I might get a lot of fire for what I am saying. But the enemies of humanity wan't that. A bus driver, a garbage collector a pole dancer that knows nothing about the management of power so they can be controlled.
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 Quoting: ACME_MAN

ACME-Man, Jesus was not a common man and it was not his upbringing that make him what he was. So please, let's leave him out of this.

The Monarchies raise their children to be rulers, carpenters raise their children to work with their hands and politicians raise their children, for the most part, in skills that may be good for them, but not for the rest of us.

Witness the Bush family, the Gore family, the Biden family....
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Lily o' the Valley  (OP)

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06/05/2019 08:49 PM

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I never said that the US should go back to a monarchy. I said the European monarchies should band together. The US is the guiding light here, or didn't you notice?

I am not talking about oligarchies, I am talking about the European monarchies.

Please read my comments, it is not a lot of reading.
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06/05/2019 08:50 PM
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This one is the best ever with Trump do have the most beautiful eyes.

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06/05/2019 09:51 PM
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06/05/2019 09:58 PM
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and please...take off the blinders or bring on the hemlock. and if you are a Christian remember..FOR THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.
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Disagree. Jesus grew up as a carpenter. It all gets back to one's upbringing. I've observed many bus drivers over the years. A good many aren't up to the task, most are average to good, and then there are those who let the job go to their heads. The latter act like airline pilots . . . those are the ones you have to watch . . . especially when they get on the microphone and indicate that the oxygen masks will soon be deploying. ; )



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Look at Maduro from Venezuela. Before becoming president he was a bus driver. A good bus driver is needed. But one cannot put a bus driver to govern a nation. One cannot put a Medical Doctor to build a house or a builder to do surgery. Get my drift? I might get a lot of fire for what I am saying. But the enemies of humanity wan't that. A bus driver, a garbage collector a pole dancer that knows nothing about the management of power so they can be controlled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70043887

 Quoting: ACME_MAN

ACME-Man, Jesus was not a common man and it was not his upbringing that make him what he was. So please, let's leave him out of this.

The Monarchies raise their children to be rulers, carpenters raise their children to work with their hands and politicians raise their children, for the most part, in skills that may be good for them, but not for the rest of us.

Witness the Bush family, the Gore family, the Biden family....
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clappa
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06/05/2019 10:12 PM
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In the long run democracy will no longer work as the divisions get too deep and one side will not accept the rule of the other. It’s beginning to happen now. Say the Muslims reach a number where they can out vote the natives and take over the whole government. That’s when you abolish democracy and start the monarchy.
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OP I guess you wont get this pinned. But the discussion is really relevant. thank you for starting this thread.
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In the long run democracy will no longer work as the divisions get too deep and one side will not accept the rule of the other. It’s beginning to happen now. Say the Muslims reach a number where they can out vote the natives and take over the whole government. That’s when you abolish democracy and start the monarchy.
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Well, look at London.
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Lily o' the Valley  (OP)

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OP I guess you wont get this pinned. But the discussion is really relevant. thank you for starting this thread.
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No, it probably won't get pinned, but thanks for the kind sentiment. I think it's a topic that is worthy of examining. Just look at London. If the Muslims were to be cast out or defeated, what would replace them in the power structure? The same old globalists who brought them in? The crew that stalled Brexit? You see where I am going with this. The Monarchies are ideal to come in and act as a ready made focus of power with an existing, experienced, and loyal base. Who else is there?

Like it or not, the US (Trump) is leading the way, or at least providing an inspiration, and people on the streets love him. What better than a cross Atlantic coalition?
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The Monarchs of Europe would have a grand laugh at Trump going to them and asking them to get rid of theirselves. Just exactly who do you think the Globalist cult members comprise of?
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Not the Monarchs. In the wake of 2 world wars the monarchies were put upon to divest themselves of the power of rulership and great properties around the world. They were allowed in Western Europe to keep their fortunes and their lives, but in Russia, they lost all.

They can't speak out on policy or much of anything else. They are smart enough to know that the goal of Socialism is Communism and that means a firing squad for them Communism does not allow for divided loyalties.

The whole basis of Marxsism is the redistribution of wealth and property. The globalists will seize the monarchies'
property and slice and dice it amongst themselves, just like they want to do with the
US.

Do you think they were delighted to give up all that awful responsibility and filthy real estate and bring everybody home? Do you think they delight in seeing their beautiful, prosperous European countries over run and even ruled by filthy curs? Do you think the Queen has secret strategy meetings with Sadiq Khan?

I don't.


Thimk about it.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule?

You said Trump and the Queen. Queen = Monarch
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the monarchs in uk and netherlands are freemasons.

which means they are not christian monarchs.
even if they pretend.


i can confirm there are several monarchs part of globalist groups like 1001, WWF,etc.
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06/05/2019 11:18 PM
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


So.........

No
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W



S

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06/05/2019 11:21 PM
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
Lily o' the Valley  (OP)

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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


So.........

No
J


E


W



S

?
!
?
!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


Well, that could be a result.
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73324455


clappa
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73324455


If the european countries are swamped with people who don't care for them, it won't matter that there is a monarchy.
It won't be supported.

As far as the u.s. is concerned, the father of the country, george washington, was offered a crown, which he refused.

He also warned about entanglement with europe.
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Agreed,
but
monarchy with a new consciousness


Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley
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No, you don’t need to go that far. Just elect right wing leaders that will protect the nation and its people. Trump was elected for that reason and Europeans can do the same if they’re smart enough.
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In some countries they are doing that, you know,

But. why is it so far? You can't see hou the election process has gone totally useless? Look at Sweden, look at France, look at London. All those traitors were elected, for heaven's sake. Right now, today you see elected officials looting their countries and allowing - yes allowing the nations' women to be raped wholesale. Then look back here and tell me with a straight face that elections are working.

When was the last monarch who was as destructive as Obama, Macron, or the Queen of destruction herself, Merkel?

Put aside your idea of Monarchies bad, Elections good, and just look at the record.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Ummmmmm...the US fought a monarchy to become a free nation. You're basically insulting all the Americans that fought in the Revolution. Please cut the crap. Yes, I get it. Liberal leaders around the world really do suck and aren't doing much for their countries. But this monarchy worship that you're pushing is fucking stupid as well.
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No, the US didn't fight monarchies, we battle for Independence from an absolute Monarch.

We also fought for the Constitution, not a form of government. In that, any government we choose is ok so long as it honors the Constitution and is for and by the People.
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we always complain of the power corporations hae in our governments. well democracy has been key for corporations to take over. they bank roll candidates so the winning party will do their bid. in south america the huge wealth of the narcos have bankrolled entire 'democratic' parties.
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Of course not. We wont gain anything from bringing back the monarchies to life.

Last Edited by Ostria1 on 06/06/2019 06:21 PM
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73324455



So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
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No, you don’t need to go that far. Just elect right wing leaders that will protect the nation and its people. Trump was elected for that reason and Europeans can do the same if they’re smart enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29591655


In some countries they are doing that, you know,

But. why is it so far? You can't see hou the election process has gone totally useless? Look at Sweden, look at France, look at London. All those traitors were elected, for heaven's sake. Right now, today you see elected officials looting their countries and allowing - yes allowing the nations' women to be raped wholesale. Then look back here and tell me with a straight face that elections are working.

When was the last monarch who was as destructive as Obama, Macron, or the Queen of destruction herself, Merkel?

Put aside your idea of Monarchies bad, Elections good, and just look at the record.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Ummmmmm...the US fought a monarchy to become a free nation. You're basically insulting all the Americans that fought in the Revolution. Please cut the crap. Yes, I get it. Liberal leaders around the world really do suck and aren't doing much for their countries. But this monarchy worship that you're pushing is fucking stupid as well.
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First of all, I never in this entire thread ever said that we should exchange our constitutional republic for a monarchy, not once.

I am making a suggestion that the European monarchies ally with us, as they have for the last century, against the enemy of Marxist/globalism. Take back their countries, in other words. The globalist democracies have ruined European nations and intend to do away with them entirely. The monarchies took much better care of their countries than the democracies have done. I've suggested several reasons why the monarchies would be ideal replacements for the Socialist democracies, and this in no way suggests that I am worshiping monarchies. I think that was a cheap shot.

I have posed several questions to help people compare the performance of monarchies and democracies and neither you. nor anyone else has responded.

I am still waiting.
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What is it with OP Lily o' the Valley? Sometimes in Canada, sometimes in the USA.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73324455



So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74777513


You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
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Of course not. We wont gain anything from bringing back the monarchies to life.
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OTOH, what have you to gain by retaining the globalists>

As a Greek, you should have a lot to weigh in the balance.

What you could gain is political stability, rulers who have been raised to rule, rulers who have a stake in maintaining the nation and it's properties and populace in good shape rather than a stake in raping the nation, the treasuries and the properties for their own personal gain.

The globalist socialists and banksters have taken Greece to her knees. That's what they have done, and they profited by it. You know they did.

Think about it.
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Agreed,
but
monarchy with a new consciousness

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Indeed, yes.
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