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Lily o' the Valley  (OP)

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we always complain of the power corporations hae in our governments. well democracy has been key for corporations to take over. they bank roll candidates so the winning party will do their bid. in south america the huge wealth of the narcos have bankrolled entire 'democratic' parties.
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nodding

It may well be possible when all this corrupt /corporate narco power structure is taken down, along with the corrupt government power structure, that the idea of an existing system already in place, with people and procedures, may look very welcome to move into the power vacuum.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth

it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
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I hope you realize, THE MONARCHISTS ARE THE GLOBALISTS!
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth

it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22680266


The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.

When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.

When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
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I hope you realize, THE MONARCHISTS ARE THE GLOBALISTS!
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Don't be fooled. The globalisfs are in direct opposition to all the monarchs are and stand for.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth

it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22680266


The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.

When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.

When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69076381


World war I stripped the Monarchies of their power to make the world safe for Communism, in Russia Stalin went ahead with Communism, killing the Monarchy and confiscating all that was theirs. The rest of Europe went the way of Socialism's goal being Communism, with its redistribution of wealth, destruction of inheritance, an all powerful state, and a world with no nations.

All of these spell the death of the monarchies and all they own. you have been mislead.
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It's my VPN that switches to the best route.

Sorry, I am a proud American citizen who feels a friendly kinship with Canadians.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73324455



So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74777513


You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The queen could have prevented that marriage because harry is the spare. She spoke of it in her christmas address and she was startled and upset when she mentioned meghan's name.
She knew it was wrong but it is brit training to put a brave face on things.

The brf is a branch of brit. gov.
The queen is informed of issues (the red boxes) and they do public work, including international work.
They just do not speak publicly of it so that they can be seen as above the fray.

Why don't deep staters like trump?
Because he says publicly what they may say privately.
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Disagree. Jesus grew up as a carpenter. It all gets back to one's upbringing. I've observed many bus drivers over the years. A good many aren't up to the task, most are average to good, and then there are those who let the job go to their heads. The latter act like airline pilots . . . those are the ones you have to watch . . . especially when they get on the microphone and indicate that the oxygen masks will soon be deploying. ; )



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Look at Maduro from Venezuela. Before becoming president he was a bus driver. A good bus driver is needed. But one cannot put a bus driver to govern a nation. One cannot put a Medical Doctor to build a house or a builder to do surgery. Get my drift? I might get a lot of fire for what I am saying. But the enemies of humanity wan't that. A bus driver, a garbage collector a pole dancer that knows nothing about the management of power so they can be controlled.
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 Quoting: ACME_MAN

ACME-Man, Jesus was not a common man and it was not his upbringing that make him what he was. So please, let's leave him out of this.

The Monarchies raise their children to be rulers, carpenters raise their children to work with their hands and politicians raise their children, for the most part, in skills that may be good for them, but not for the rest of us.

Witness the Bush family, the Gore family, the Biden family....
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70043887


The problem with dynasties is that the children may be incompetent to rule.

Why do you believe that succession has always been a problem for them?

W. bush has a learning disability which made him vulnerable to influences from stronger mentalities like cheney and rumsfeld and the neo-cons. The m.e. was supposed to be a cake walk and here we are, what, seventeen years on.


Philip believed that anne would have been the best of his children to be in line for the throne because she has the temperament.

But anne also divorced and her children have no titles.

Modern life is a problem for the royals as it is for all of the old institutions.

They can no longer rely upon "discretion."
Maybe this is why all manner of disgusting behavior is promoted.
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Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73324455



So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74777513


You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The queen could have prevented that marriage because harry is the spare. She spoke of it in her christmas address and she was startled and upset when she mentioned meghan's name.
She knew it was wrong but it is brit training to put a brave face on things.

The brf is a branch of brit. gov.
The queen is informed of issues (the red boxes) and they do public work, including international work.
They just do not speak publicly of it so that they can be seen as above the fray.

Why don't deep staters like trump?
Because he says publicly what they may say privately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73486116


Thank you very much for your clear explanationa on these various points. Protocol is so very important. The Trumps fully understand that, and so did the Bush family, however it was only a surface gloss on the Obamas. They were difficult for everybody except the American press. Harry has been a little problem for a while, as the pool party affair showed. The succession is difficult, but then so are elections, and much more complicated. Are any of the other grandchildren possibilities?
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Macron/Monarc as ruler of the EU bought and paid for by the Rothschild Swi$$ treasury under spiritual guidance of the xenomorph pope? What could go wrong...
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So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74777513


You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The queen could have prevented that marriage because harry is the spare. She spoke of it in her christmas address and she was startled and upset when she mentioned meghan's name.
She knew it was wrong but it is brit training to put a brave face on things.

The brf is a branch of brit. gov.
The queen is informed of issues (the red boxes) and they do public work, including international work.
They just do not speak publicly of it so that they can be seen as above the fray.

Why don't deep staters like trump?
Because he says publicly what they may say privately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73486116


Thank you very much for your clear explanationa on these various points. Protocol is so very important. The Trumps fully understand that, and so did the Bush family, however it was only a surface gloss on the Obamas. They were difficult for everybody except the American press. Harry has been a little problem for a while, as the pool party affair showed. The succession is difficult, but then so are elections, and much more complicated. Are any of the other grandchildren possibilities?
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The world has changed so much since monarchies ruled in europe.

They would to often go to war with one another; the r.c., which was the only religious game in town at the time, believed that intermarriage between the royals would prevent this.

But it didn't solve the problem, witness henry the eighth, who was given the title "Defender of the faith" by the r.c.--which made as much of a difference as giving the nobel peace prize to obama, some people should not be thus encouraged--declared himself the head of the english church.

Eight wives later, and he still had no son to carry on the title.

The internecine warfare between the monarchies caused financial problems and raised taxes. Sound familiar to what is going on today?

What really killed the monarchies was the so-called world wars, which had much to do really with money, as usual, and
who would control the new world colonies.

They over-expanded, and their new subjects were just too culturally dissimilar and communism, a new method of uniting disparate peoples, reared its head and is the true enemy of monarchy. Check the dates between the murder of the english cousins, the romanovs, by the bolsheviks, and world war one.

So it was a lethal combination of natural disagreements, the opening of the new world, the industrial revolution, and the
advent of communism that up-ended the old order.

As to who shall inherit the brf throne, it looks like charles, then william.

Harry caused a problem with meghan, who become influenced by canadian and u.s. political types, such as the obamas.

Long response, but there is no simple answer.

Right rule has always been an issue; the chinese have grappled with it longer since their civilization is older.

But we in the u.s. do not want to go back to monarchy.
It is simply not in our bones to do so.

The socialism called communism is a danger, and it is to be seen if our titans of industry can keep us out of it.

Communism is a horrible way of life, horribly bureaucratic, and never keeps its promises, it's even worse than capitalism because it's so idealistic.

The old ways were more tolerant of human nature and the need to believe in something greater than the human, whether it be natural--Nature--or supernatural--God.

The u.s. has to show the way.
This is why trump came to power.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth

it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22680266


The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.

When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.

When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
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rothschilds run france now, and they have protests everyday
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I hope you realize, THE MONARCHISTS ARE THE GLOBALISTS!
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Don't be fooled. The globalisfs are in direct opposition to all the monarchs are and stand for.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


i agree they made monarchies go in exile in world war 1 and 2, the globalists would be the fascists antifa would hate if antifa had a fuckin clue
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the monarchs in uk and netherlands are freemasons.

which means they are not christian monarchs.
even if they pretend.


i can confirm there are several monarchs part of globalist groups like 1001, WWF,etc.
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the anomaly is related to the king of netherlands
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Macron/Monarc as ruler of the EU bought and paid for by the Rothschild Swi$$ treasury under spiritual guidance of the xenomorph pope? What could go wrong...
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mysecret

Shhh. Don't tell....
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You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The queen could have prevented that marriage because harry is the spare. She spoke of it in her christmas address and she was startled and upset when she mentioned meghan's name.
She knew it was wrong but it is brit training to put a brave face on things.

The brf is a branch of brit. gov.
The queen is informed of issues (the red boxes) and they do public work, including international work.
They just do not speak publicly of it so that they can be seen as above the fray.

Why don't deep staters like trump?
Because he says publicly what they may say privately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73486116


Thank you very much for your clear explanationa on these various points. Protocol is so very important. The Trumps fully understand that, and so did the Bush family, however it was only a surface gloss on the Obamas. They were difficult for everybody except the American press. Harry has been a little problem for a while, as the pool party affair showed. The succession is difficult, but then so are elections, and much more complicated. Are any of the other grandchildren possibilities?
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The world has changed so much since monarchies ruled in europe.

They would to often go to war with one another; the r.c., which was the only religious game in town at the time, believed that intermarriage between the royals would prevent this.

But it didn't solve the problem, witness henry the eighth, who was given the title "Defender of the faith" by the r.c.--which made as much of a difference as giving the nobel peace prize to obama, some people should not be thus encouraged--declared himself the head of the english church.

Eight wives later, and he still had no son to carry on the title.

The internecine warfare between the monarchies caused financial problems and raised taxes. Sound familiar to what is going on today?

What really killed the monarchies was the so-called world wars, which had much to do really with money, as usual, and
who would control the new world colonies.

They over-expanded, and their new subjects were just too culturally dissimilar and communism, a new method of uniting disparate peoples, reared its head and is the true enemy of monarchy. Check the dates between the murder of the english cousins, the romanovs, by the bolsheviks, and world war one.

So it was a lethal combination of natural disagreements, the opening of the new world, the industrial revolution, and the
advent of communism that up-ended the old order.

As to who shall inherit the brf throne, it looks like charles, then william.

Harry caused a problem with meghan, who become influenced by canadian and u.s. political types, such as the obamas.

Long response, but there is no simple answer.

Right rule has always been an issue; the chinese have grappled with it longer since their civilization is older.

But we in the u.s. do not want to go back to monarchy.
It is simply not in our bones to do so.

The socialism called communism is a danger, and it is to be seen if our titans of industry can keep us out of it.

Communism is a horrible way of life, horribly bureaucratic, and never keeps its promises, it's even worse than capitalism because it's so idealistic.

The old ways were more tolerant of human nature and the need to believe in something greater than the human, whether it be natural--Nature--or supernatural--God.

The u.s. has to show the way.
This is why trump came to power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73486116



I certainly agree with much of what you say. But I did not ever say that the US should revert to monarchies, I said that we should form alliances, trade deals, mutual support pacts. Great big difference, which seems to be mostly ignored in this thread, especially by those from the US, though I keep restating it.

Yes, I believe that Trump will show the way, if he can avoid false moves counseled by false friends.

Communism is the goal of Socialism, and this is implicit in Lenin and Marx's works. This is the Trojan horse that got incipient Communism throughout Europe.

Did you know that there were minor Communist revolutions all over the world in the WWI era? They are labeled failures, but they raped every European country and left their offspring, who were fruitful and multiplied. England itself has Labour and the Fabian Socialists to deal with, if as President Trump says, they have the will.

The false promise of democracy has spread throughout the entire world with its atheist immorality, rampant crime in the streets and in civic administrations, and its nurturing of dangerous or lazy people rather than those with merit and morals. This has just about run its course, and will probably result in fisticuffs.

What will rise out of the dust. We hope not the Red Star,
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I hope you realize, THE MONARCHISTS ARE THE GLOBALISTS!
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Don't be fooled. The globalisfs are in direct opposition to all the monarchs are and stand for.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


i agree they made monarchies go in exile in world war 1 and 2, the globalists would be the fascists antifa would hate if antifa had a fuckin clue
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FactSamp
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the monarchs in uk and netherlands are freemasons.

which means they are not christian monarchs.
even if they pretend.


i can confirm there are several monarchs part of globalist groups like 1001, WWF,etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72473369


the anomaly is related to the king of netherlands
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Really. I did not know that.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth

it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22680266


The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.

When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.

When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69076381


What the French monardhy spilled was but a drop compared to the Communists, who spilled more blood, killed more people than all the previous worlds combined.

This is what the globalists will give the world.

Look at what has happened in Africa since the UN took over, compared to the colonial era.

Take an unbiased and open minded look.
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I hope you realize, THE MONARCHISTS ARE THE GLOBALISTS!
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that really don't sound rational. so you mean that monarchs are working behind the scene to undermind their own families?
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the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth
it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22680266

The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.
When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.
When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69076381

For hundreds of years the papacy was the tyrant and the kings/queens did what the popes told them... or else. Then - thank God - along came the great Protestant Reformation and the popes lost their power over the monarchies.
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Lily i think you have a much idealistic view about the monarchies. They are not like those in the ancient times.
Back then the people chose and declared as kings, the best among them. Royal families didnt really last for more than 3 generations, because each one had to prove to the people that they were worthy for the title.

The roman empire changed all this, and the german tribes that invaded later gave it the last hit.
Feudalism, in the middle ages, gave birth to the new Monarchies, all German in their base, even if they fought each other at times.

They were conquerors and land looters and they remained in power because they had strong armies and exploited both the land and the locals and were almost never and nowhere liked by them.
Of course they allowed some of the old local aristocracy, the nobles (local landowners mostly) to pay homage and become their royal courtyard people.
So, no, i dont trust these people to come back in power. I agree that the political systems we have today are also problematic, so we need to work better with them.
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Lily i think you have a much idealistic view about the monarchies. They are not like those in the ancient times.
Back then the people chose and declared as kings, the best among them. Royal families didnt really last for more than 3 generations, because each one had to prove to the people that they were worthy for the title.

The roman empire changed all this, and the german tribes that invaded later gave it the last hit.
Feudalism, in the middle ages, gave birth to the new Monarchies, all German in their base, even if they fought each other at times.

They were conquerors and land looters and they remained in power because they had strong armies and exploited both the land and the locals and were almost never and nowhere liked by them.
Of course they allowed some of the old local aristocracy, the nobles (local landowners mostly) to pay homage and become their royal courtyard people.
So, no, i dont trust these people to come back in power. I agree that the political systems we have today are also problematic, so we need to work better with them.
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I agree that the corruption is everywhere, and certainly the monarchies have their share. I don' t have illusions about that. But I see their failures as the lesser of the evils, and with a greater possibility of preserving European culture and societies. With the Socialist/Communist globalists, I see nothing but destruction and a total refusal to work together with the people they look to enslave.

Perhaps with the monarchs working with Trump and those nations already rejecting the globalists, when the dust settles there may be a new mixture that will serve us all better.
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the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth
it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
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The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.
When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.
When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
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For hundreds of years the papacy was the tyrant and the kings/queens did what the popes told them... or else. Then - thank God - along came the great Protestant Reformation and the popes lost their power over the monarchies.
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And that's the truth!
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I hope you realize, THE MONARCHISTS ARE THE GLOBALISTS!
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that really don't sound rational. so you mean that monarchs are working behind the scene to undermind their own families?
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I've tried to explain this, but some people just can't seem to get it.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
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the anomaly comes from a noble blood line and is actually working to restore monarchies power in society to restore balance on earth

it was better when kings and queens ruled, they were not fueled by greed, they were born with more money than they will ever need, they helped decide how to use that money to help people, governments just split up the money to help people among the greedy crooks among them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22680266


The royal and noble houses are wicked, evil and are totally of Satan.

When Monarchs ruled France, Paris was the septic tank of Europe.

When Monarchs ruled, blood poured across Europe.

You think this madness came out of nowhere? The Monarchists deliberately supported multiculturalism, and are deliberately rigging elections across Europe, to advance their agenda of discrediting representative governance.
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What the French monardhy spilled was but a drop compared to the Communists, who spilled more blood, killed more people than all the previous worlds combined.

This is what the globalists will give the world.

Look at what has happened in Africa since the UN took over, compared to the colonial era.

Take an unbiased and open minded look.
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clappa
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Okay, thanks. And I'm an ex-American who got out - now a proud Canadian!

A monarchy is a stabilizing institution amid political turmoil.
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So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
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You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
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The queen could have prevented that marriage because harry is the spare. She spoke of it in her christmas address and she was startled and upset when she mentioned meghan's name.
She knew it was wrong but it is brit training to put a brave face on things.

The brf is a branch of brit. gov.
The queen is informed of issues (the red boxes) and they do public work, including international work.
They just do not speak publicly of it so that they can be seen as above the fray.

Why don't deep staters like trump?
Because he says publicly what they may say privately.
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i think that what the monarchy is doing with Meghan Markle is staying up to date with her people. look at the changing faces of the British isles. maybe that was the plan to out fase her. but she is one step ahead. remember she will pass on the crown. she might not want to pass on a nation divided by color.
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Dear Mr. President,

Concerning your visit to the UK: Why don't you and the Queen get together with all the other monarchs of Europe and take back the European nations from the globalist rule? They would do a much better job of running things, and the populace would be much happier.

All the liberated nations could form their own trading block and mutual defense.

Thank you in advance for considering this important matter.

Yours sincerely,

Seerose
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they are all same garbage....
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So explain what happened to london and sweden and the netherlands, for that matter.

The rfs don't care as long as they get what they want.

Why do you think the queen allowed harry to marry meghan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74777513


You don't understand. The queen no longer rules London or England for that matter. The mess that these countries are in can be laid directly at the feet of the globalist parliaments.

I don't believe that the queen, or any other grandmother can prevent a grandchild from marrying his/her choice. In fact, Prince Phillip was not the choice of her parents either.

If you read 20th century European history you will understand that the monarchy have no power. They have land and $$ but not the power. There are great restraints on what the British monarchy can even make public comment on.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


The queen could have prevented that marriage because harry is the spare. She spoke of it in her christmas address and she was startled and upset when she mentioned meghan's name.
She knew it was wrong but it is brit training to put a brave face on things.

The brf is a branch of brit. gov.
The queen is informed of issues (the red boxes) and they do public work, including international work.
They just do not speak publicly of it so that they can be seen as above the fray.

Why don't deep staters like trump?
Because he says publicly what they may say privately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73486116


i think that what the monarchy is doing with Meghan Markle is staying up to date with her people. look at the changing faces of the British isles. maybe that was the plan to out fase her. but she is one step ahead. remember she will pass on the crown. she might not want to pass on a nation divided by color.
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democracy is failing. although the most democratic countries are kingdoms (Scandinavia). maybe tptb are placing themselves for that vacuum of power. maybe when king Jared and queen Ivanka appear on the scene. who knows!!
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Monarchy Outdated, Democracy Future

Tibet's spiritual leader believes that monarchy as a form of a political system is totally outdated.

"A few days ago the Japanese emperor [Naruhito] acceded to the throne, and yesterday a new British prince was born [Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal baby]. I really feel that [monarchy] is outdated. Russian Bolshevik revolution eliminated the czarist rule, and the French Revolution also eliminated the king’s rule. I feel this is right. All these kings, queens are part of old thinking. In that system, there was too much emphasis on military power", he said.

Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, gestures before delivering a public lecture on “Reviving Indian Wisdom in Contemporary India” at a function in New Delhi on February 5, 2017
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