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Imagine how quickly our entire civilization will be forgotten...

 
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Every 13000 (one minute of one day) or so years we pass through a hole in spacetime that allows for what we would deem as angels (light and dark beings dont care about the fate of humanity, they only care about the crystalization our biological vessels express on our souls (they created souls to harvest this energy much like we would make generators)) to interact and save small groups of humans from calamity to continue the harvest.


Time is effected by gravity.


Beings not effected by gravity would experience time in a completely different way.

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I think this cycle though we may have opened Pandora’s box with nuclear energy. thats going to be around a long long time


Wonder what they will think if someone stumbles into a hot zone thousands of years from now? Demons?
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Inspired by Thread: Cool website about catastrophic cosmic event 12,900 years ago I was discussing the 12,000 year catastrophe cycle with a coworker today. I was trying to get them to imagine how quickly our entire civilization could be forgotten after an event like this.

They thought the idea was ridiculous. Their main objection was "If this has all happened before, why don't we see more evidence of previous civilizations?"


A few hundred thousand people survive the event. Maybe a few million.

Preps running out and spoiling within a few years.

No power, mining, refining, manufacturing, production, etc because most everyone who had the skills to do this is dead.

Travel becomes exceedingly rare. It's too dangerous and too costly with very little return on investment.

After a generation or two, most salvage is used up. Tooling, infrastructure, buildings, and the like now far beyond salvage and repair. Any remaining people with knowledge of processes are long gone.

Only the most fundamental knowledge for survival is passed on. Reading and writing become more and more obsolete, with only a few having time for these skill.

No further need for electricity from solar, because anything that ran on it has become inoperable.

After a few generations, most cities are unrecognizable ruins with only the sturdiest stone-type structures surviving the storms, winds, floods, and earthquakes. Almost everything made of metal has decayed to dust.

Any stories of "times before" are past on mostly through oral stories or traditions that become more muddied and meaningless with every generation.

After a few hundred years, almost all signs of the former civilization have been buried or swept away.

And after 12,000 years of surviving wars and everything else life throws at us... maybe, just maybe, humans might make it back to the point we are today.

It's likely been hundreds of thousands of years, maybe even millions, since humans have managed to get back to the point where we are today


And maybe one of these next times, if we're lucky, we might have a colony off somewhere in the stars that can live to tell the tale to the next round of survivors if their paths should ever happen to cross.

Most of this is GLP 101, but it was interesting watching this coworker's mind break after driving these thoughts home.
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If this civilization falls...it wont be ABLE to rise again. The easily accessible natural resources that were used to build it are becoming more scarce and harder to access ... Think metals,oil, gas, coal, etc.

So if it falls, and if civilzation were to rise again, it would be unlike it is now. And if it falls due to cascading natural disasters, the chemical and radiation fallout could change the natural world thru mutation into species that only can be imagined.
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very clever and very accurate

well spoken!
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We assume that human progress will mirror the rise of our current civilization. That fossil fuels will be discovered first, then electrical generators...etc.

We don't think about man finding a completely different power source. Like how Edgar Cayce's story of Atlantis, show them discovering a source of wireless power involving crystals. Our reliance on fossil fuels comes from the greed of capitalism. When one resource shows to be profitable, money squashes any possible competition. We have not advanced that much in our time. We are still using internal combustion engines in our vehicles which were first used in 1876...143 years ago!. Even our nuclear power plants are nothing more than complicated "steam engines". Scientific insight will come to man with the materials that he has available to him.
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Re: Imagine how quickly our entire civilization will be forgotten...
Inspired by Thread: Cool website about catastrophic cosmic event 12,900 years ago I was discussing the 12,000 year catastrophe cycle with a coworker today. I was trying to get them to imagine how quickly our entire civilization could be forgotten after an event like this.

They thought the idea was ridiculous. Their main objection was "If this has all happened before, why don't we see more evidence of previous civilizations?"


A few hundred thousand people survive the event. Maybe a few million.

Preps running out and spoiling within a few years.

No power, mining, refining, manufacturing, production, etc because most everyone who had the skills to do this is dead.

Travel becomes exceedingly rare. It's too dangerous and too costly with very little return on investment.

After a generation or two, most salvage is used up. Tooling, infrastructure, buildings, and the like now far beyond salvage and repair. Any remaining people with knowledge of processes are long gone.

Only the most fundamental knowledge for survival is passed on. Reading and writing become more and more obsolete, with only a few having time for these skill.

No further need for electricity from solar, because anything that ran on it has become inoperable.

After a few generations, most cities are unrecognizable ruins with only the sturdiest stone-type structures surviving the storms, winds, floods, and earthquakes. Almost everything made of metal has decayed to dust.

Any stories of "times before" are past on mostly through oral stories or traditions that become more muddied and meaningless with every generation.

After a few hundred years, almost all signs of the former civilization have been buried or swept away.

And after 12,000 years of surviving wars and everything else life throws at us... maybe, just maybe, humans might make it back to the point we are today.

It's likely been hundreds of thousands of years, maybe even millions, since humans have managed to get back to the point where we are today


And maybe one of these next times, if we're lucky, we might have a colony off somewhere in the stars that can live to tell the tale to the next round of survivors if their paths should ever happen to cross.

Most of this is GLP 101, but it was interesting watching this coworker's mind break after driving these thoughts home.
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If this civilization falls...it wont be ABLE to rise again. The easily accessible natural resources that were used to build it are becoming more scarce and harder to access ... Think metals,oil, gas, coal, etc.

So if it falls, and if civilzation were to rise again, it would be unlike it is now. And if it falls due to cascading natural disasters, the chemical and radiation fallout could change the natural world thru mutation into species that only can be imagined.
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meh..the tectonic plates will grind everything under in 20 million years..if any people survive that long, they will have a whole new fresh crop of crust to exploit
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The only way to survive a pole flip (maybe) is in a concrete bunker 10,000 feet up.

Good luck with all that.
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Re: Imagine how quickly our entire civilization will be forgotten...
Inspired by Thread: Cool website about catastrophic cosmic event 12,900 years ago I was discussing the 12,000 year catastrophe cycle with a coworker today. I was trying to get them to imagine how quickly our entire civilization could be forgotten after an event like this.

They thought the idea was ridiculous. Their main objection was "If this has all happened before, why don't we see more evidence of previous civilizations?"


A few hundred thousand people survive the event. Maybe a few million.

Preps running out and spoiling within a few years.

No power, mining, refining, manufacturing, production, etc because most everyone who had the skills to do this is dead.

Travel becomes exceedingly rare. It's too dangerous and too costly with very little return on investment.

After a generation or two, most salvage is used up. Tooling, infrastructure, buildings, and the like now far beyond salvage and repair. Any remaining people with knowledge of processes are long gone.

Only the most fundamental knowledge for survival is passed on. Reading and writing become more and more obsolete, with only a few having time for these skill.

No further need for electricity from solar, because anything that ran on it has become inoperable.

After a few generations, most cities are unrecognizable ruins with only the sturdiest stone-type structures surviving the storms, winds, floods, and earthquakes. Almost everything made of metal has decayed to dust.

Any stories of "times before" are past on mostly through oral stories or traditions that become more muddied and meaningless with every generation.

After a few hundred years, almost all signs of the former civilization have been buried or swept away.

And after 12,000 years of surviving wars and everything else life throws at us... maybe, just maybe, humans might make it back to the point we are today.

It's likely been hundreds of thousands of years, maybe even millions, since humans have managed to get back to the point where we are today


And maybe one of these next times, if we're lucky, we might have a colony off somewhere in the stars that can live to tell the tale to the next round of survivors if their paths should ever happen to cross.

Most of this is GLP 101, but it was interesting watching this coworker's mind break after driving these thoughts home.
 Quoting: PirateMonkey


If this civilization falls...it wont be ABLE to rise again. The easily accessible natural resources that were used to build it are becoming more scarce and harder to access ... Think metals,oil, gas, coal, etc.

So if it falls, and if civilzation were to rise again, it would be unlike it is now. And if it falls due to cascading natural disasters, the chemical and radiation fallout could change the natural world thru mutation into species that only can be imagined.
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meh..the tectonic plates will grind everything under in 20 million years..if any people survive that long, they will have a whole new fresh crop of crust to exploit
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Yep.

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Has anyone on this panel spoken a word of truth....at all?
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Two thoughts...

Wash Rinse Repeat...Wash Rinse Repeat...Wash Rinse Repeat..

#2
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You live,exist then die...again,again,and again

You become a memory after you no longer exist, after the very last person who remembers you... your friends,cousin,mother,father,sister,brother,whoever has outlasted your existence is gone then you are officially erased to whatever is left, a footnote in history,just a very brief moment in time, just a name on a marker in some desolate cemetary with a date born and a date died, or cremated and recycled into the enviroment, or a name on a book written by so and so, or a movie...Have you ever watched a black and white movie and think, Wow everybody I'm watching now on tv that is talking is no longer alive...then we get recycled...we go down a dark tunnel, come out of some vag to a bright light and get slapped on the bum to wake up and do it all over again...

bert-TIAll
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Perhaps in ten thousand years, our descendants will peruse our civilization and see that the ultimate apex of our society will be:

Kardashian family
Latest superhero reboot
Fortnight
Religious wars
Constant infighting over something called left/right
Murca's got talent
UFC

They will consider it a very primitive civilization, who seem to worship a god called ronaldus mcdonaldus along with the religious symbol of the golden arches.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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Pined

It has been my assertion for many years that we've blown ourselves up numerous times throughout history. There are many artifacts we've found which support this notion.
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Thank you for the pine Darth! Much appreciated.

Loving the discussion folks.
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secret breakaway civilizations
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I find it ironic that people will eat this up with no proof, but not believe what was spoken of in ancient texts that speak of the creation of the world. Historically speaking, one of the biggest proofs of the the biblical narrative is the existence of the land and peoples called Yisrael. So many actual places we can physically go to that were mentioned in the ancient texts. I can take you to the Mount of Olives, Euphrates River, Kush, Ashur, Mitzrayim, the split rock were the children of Yisrael camped, the Yarden River, Temple Mount, Valley of Meggido, Lebanon, etc. Let alone ALL of the archeological proof, from coins to bones of giants, etc.

And by the way, most of the "churches" are full of shit and NOT representing the Torah Messiah, but a false version of babel, aka sun worship and the mystery religions of nimrod.

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And, all the ancient cities, megaliths, technologies, were built directly by the fallen ones or the hybrid offspring of them.

Sadly, the Book of Enoch is not allowed in the "churches" because it exposes who controls them.
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Perhaps in ten thousand years, our descendants will peruse our civilization and see that the ultimate apex of our society will be:

Kardashian family
Latest superhero reboot
Fortnight
Religious wars
Constant infighting over something called left/right
Murca's got talent
UFC

They will consider it a very primitive civilization, who seem to worship a god called ronaldus mcdonaldus along with the religious symbol of the golden arches.
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Wait until we start getting radio signals from the other Earths. They are out there. The first broadcast has just reached Pluto
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well its been going on for 400 million years ?
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well its been going on for 400 million years ?
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A nano of a second!
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Re: Imagine how quickly our entire civilization will be forgotten...
Inspired by Thread: Cool website about catastrophic cosmic event 12,900 years ago I was discussing the 12,000 year catastrophe cycle with a coworker today. I was trying to get them to imagine how quickly our entire civilization could be forgotten after an event like this.

They thought the idea was ridiculous. Their main objection was "If this has all happened before, why don't we see more evidence of previous civilizations?"


The "event" happens. A few hundred thousand people survive. Maybe a few million.

Preps run out or spoil within a few years.

No power, mining, refining, manufacturing, production, etc because most everyone who had the skills to do this is dead.

Travel becomes exceedingly rare. It's too dangerous and too costly with very little return on investment.

After a generation or two, most salvage is used up. Tooling, infrastructure, buildings, and the like are now far beyond salvage and repair. Any remaining people with knowledge of "modern" methods of production are long gone.

Only the most fundamental knowledge for survival is passed on. Reading and writing become more and more obsolete, with only a few having time for these skill.

No further need for electricity from solar, because anything that ran on it has become inoperable.

After a few generations, most cities are unrecognizable ruins with only the sturdiest stone-type structures surviving the storms, winds, floods, and earthquakes. Almost everything made of metal has decayed to dust.

Any stories of "times before" are passed on mostly through oral stories or traditions. These become more muddied and meaningless with every generation. Eventually, these stories are discarded as fantasy or superstition.

After a few hundred years, almost all signs of the former civilization have been buried or swept away.

And after 12,000 years of surviving wars and everything else life throws at us... maybe, just maybe, humans might make it back to the point we are today.

It's likely been hundreds of thousands of years, maybe even millions, since humans have managed to get back to the point where we are today.

And maybe one of these next times, if we're lucky, we might have a colony off somewhere in the stars that can live to tell the tale to the next round of survivors if their paths should ever happen to cross.

Most of this is GLP 101, but it was interesting watching this coworker's mind break after driving these thoughts home.
 Quoting: PirateMonkey


Human "civilization" was extinct a long time ago & is already forgotten. All that is left is as curse.
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Hancock is really good on historical archeology. A more spiritual approach can be researched at rudolfsteineraudio.com

He has somewhat of a different take. We have had similar hardware aka bodies, but our conciousness has and is evolving that is why you see grand old civilizations working as a hive mind to create elaborate monuments... conciousness is always moving to the individual that is where we are at now.

All about reincarnation and soul learning.

[link to www.rudolfsteineraudio.com]


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And, all the ancient cities, megaliths, technologies, were built directly by the fallen ones or the hybrid offspring of them.

Sadly, the Book of Enoch is not allowed in the "churches" because it exposes who controls them.
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"Funny, father said it would be fire.
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Imagine asmall group of modern humans planning for decades for that event with supplies, 3d printers for food, medicine, and tools. Stockpiles of high potential electrolytic solutions and powders, cables, wires etc.

They would eugenically shape a pro-species out of themselves, could live as long as Biblical characters and more.



Good times.
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Thats probably true
Glad im not one of them


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Two thoughts...

Wash Rinse Repeat...Wash Rinse Repeat...Wash Rinse Repeat..

#2
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You live,exist then die...again,again,and again

You become a memory after you no longer exist, after the very last person who remembers you... your friends,cousin,mother,father,sister,brother,whoever has outlasted your existence is gone then you are officially erased to whatever is left, a footnote in history,just a very brief moment in time, just a name on a marker in some desolate cemetary with a date born and a date died, or cremated and recycled into the enviroment, or a name on a book written by so and so, or a movie...Have you ever watched a black and white movie and think, Wow everybody I'm watching now on tv that is talking is no longer alive...then we get recycled...we go down a dark tunnel, come out of some vag to a bright light and get slapped on the bum to wake up and do it all over again...

bert-TIAll
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lmao That was good man. cheers
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You fuckin tards gonna keep it up all nite??
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Has anyone on this panel spoken a word of truth....at all?
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The truth is a bit disconcerting.
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as a side note...think about this quandry



we as a species....homo sapien sapien....

have been around for...they tell us...roughly 250,000 years

all this time our hardwar has been the same...fully capable of thinking and deductive reasoning...but we didn't

They tell us that only in the last 12 to 15 thousand years did we larn how to make fire and stack rocks

I say bullshit.

I agree with Graham Hancock.....

I think humanity rose to great heights before and something happened that nearly wiped us out and we had to start all over again

now lookk at the timelines and look at what we have done

we supposedly came from struggling to make fire and banging out head against a cave wall to space flight in...15,00 years...now look at how long homo sapien sapien has been around....250,00 years

you expect me to believe they didn't rise and excel before?.....I think they did...multiple times...

250,000 years divided by 15,000 years = 16.66

theoretically, we could have risen and fell over and over...10 to 16 times.....

There are whispers of grand times in the ancient past....

a fantastic story was "the hyborean age" that supposedly happened 30,000 years ago...age of Conan type stuff....

what if it is not bullshit? What if it is somewhat accurate?

watch graham Hancock

I think he is onto something.....

this is not the first time we have done this
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1 million years ….. of those coming into creation ON this planet and long before that in terms of folks visiting ….

If needed the planet cleanses every 12,000 give or take a few years. Its time.
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You fuckin tards gonna keep it up all nite??
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Please go delete the biological version of your system32 using a .32
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as a side note...think about this quandry



we as a species....homo sapien sapien....

have been around for...they tell us...roughly 250,000 years

all this time our hardwar has been the same...fully capable of thinking and deductive reasoning...but we didn't

They tell us that only in the last 12 to 15 thousand years did we larn how to make fire and stack rocks

I say bullshit.

I agree with Graham Hancock.....

I think humanity rose to great heights before and something happened that nearly wiped us out and we had to start all over again

now lookk at the timelines and look at what we have done

we supposedly came from struggling to make fire and banging out head against a cave wall to space flight in...15,00 years...now look at how long homo sapien sapien has been around....250,00 years

you expect me to believe they didn't rise and excel before?.....I think they did...multiple times...

250,000 years divided by 15,000 years = 16.66

theoretically, we could have risen and fell over and over...10 to 16 times.....

There are whispers of grand times in the ancient past....

a fantastic story was "the hyborean age" that supposedly happened 30,000 years ago...age of Conan type stuff....

what if it is not bullshit? What if it is somewhat accurate?

watch graham Hancock

I think he is onto something.....

this is not the first time we have done this
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Exactly, the Hindus call it 'Yugas' hf
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Great thread OP!
We “magically” went from the Horse and Buggy to a Tesla as well as from the Titanic to the Space Shuttle in a mere hundred years and some change but in 25,000 years we only evolved grunts???? I’m just not buying it.
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I've already forgotten our entire civilization. If you know what's good for you, you will too.
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After everyone's dead, who will remember us?





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